Carry-on luggage nightmare at LAX
#91
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Yes. Most companies that sell carryon luggage are aware of the rules (of the US3) and make rule compliant products. Also, I measure every bag before I purchase it, knowing that I don’t want to risk a gate check and I’m sure most other experienced travelers do the same. And your original statement was 90% not “the majority of bags,” so don’t take my response out of context.
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Yes. Most companies that sell carryon luggage are aware of the rules (of the US3) and make rule compliant products. Also, I measure every bag before I purchase it, knowing that I don’t want to risk a gate check and I’m sure most other experienced travelers do the same. And your original statement was 90% not “the majority of bags,” so don’t take my response out of context.
If they don't and I get called on it, its definitely not a nightmare, albeit an inconvenience. If I'm in international J, definitely an annoyance. But Annoyance on Elm Street doesn't sell tickets!
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Yes. Most companies that sell carryon luggage are aware of the rules (of the US3) and make rule compliant products. Also, I measure every bag before I purchase it, knowing that I don’t want to risk a gate check and I’m sure most other experienced travelers do the same. And your original statement was 90% not “the majority of bags,” so don’t take my response out of context.
Its like the difference between people stopping for stop signs in the US vs Bangladesh. And you're saying stop signs work in Dhaka because SOME people stop at them
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The hotel does not have a federal agency which cares about the rules hotel has published and have submitted to it.
FAA wouldn't care if the bag was 22 or 23 inches tall if the airline had not published a rule about it
The bottom line if it is over 22 inches, it is subject to being rejected as a carry on, no matter how many times you have been speeding and not getting a ticket.
But, if the Gate Agent has the radar gun out, and pointed at you, then it is not the best time to go speeding by, and then claim it was a "nightmare" and had something to do with the size of the person possessing the radar gun
FAA wouldn't care if the bag was 22 or 23 inches tall if the airline had not published a rule about it
The bottom line if it is over 22 inches, it is subject to being rejected as a carry on, no matter how many times you have been speeding and not getting a ticket.
But, if the Gate Agent has the radar gun out, and pointed at you, then it is not the best time to go speeding by, and then claim it was a "nightmare" and had something to do with the size of the person possessing the radar gun
That doesn't address the point I've been making for the last several pages, about the common sense validity of this rule. And how, by badly enforcing a rule that a large number of people aren't complying with causes delays, frustration and generally detracts from the overall process.
#95
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When reading this intellectually stimulating thread, this arguably sizer-friendly carry-on luggage comes to mind.
And to think that the fellow can still board with a personal item as well!
Image credit: Roatan Backpackers
And to think that the fellow can still board with a personal item as well!
Image credit: Roatan Backpackers
#96
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Yes. Most companies that sell carryon luggage are aware of the rules (of the US3) and make rule compliant products. Also, I measure every bag before I purchase it, knowing that I don’t want to risk a gate check and I’m sure most other experienced travelers do the same. And your original statement was 90% not “the majority of bags,” so don’t take my response out of context.
i don’t know about the majority of bags but there are quite a few bags on board that are clearly larger than mine, which is just borderline at 22x14x9.5 (squishes enough to fit in the sizer - comfortably - if I don’t overpack).
#97
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There really are very few (if any) bags that list as 22x14x9 that are actually within those limits as they almost invariably ignore the handle on top even if they do include the wheels, which is rare.
I'd probably side with the 90% over-sized suggestion.
You have to go significantly under the published limits to actually be certain of being fully compliant.
Even my Timbuk2 CoPilot (small) is over the limit as the wheels sit a little further back than the back of the case making it 10" deep. That bag looks tiny compare to most bags I see going onboard.
Just take it as a given that if stopped the odds are your bag, like the one that started this thread, is actually over-sized despite what it says on the label.
99% of the time it is not a problem, just accept that the 1% happens, and do it with good grace.
I'd probably side with the 90% over-sized suggestion.
You have to go significantly under the published limits to actually be certain of being fully compliant.
Even my Timbuk2 CoPilot (small) is over the limit as the wheels sit a little further back than the back of the case making it 10" deep. That bag looks tiny compare to most bags I see going onboard.
Just take it as a given that if stopped the odds are your bag, like the one that started this thread, is actually over-sized despite what it says on the label.
99% of the time it is not a problem, just accept that the 1% happens, and do it with good grace.
#98
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I am very confident that my Briggs & Riley and my Travelpro will fit the sizer if they are not overstuffed/expanded
If they don't and I get called on it, its definitely not a nightmare, albeit an inconvenience. If I'm in international J, definitely an annoyance. But Annoyance on Elm Street doesn't sell tickets!
If they don't and I get called on it, its definitely not a nightmare, albeit an inconvenience. If I'm in international J, definitely an annoyance. But Annoyance on Elm Street doesn't sell tickets!
I have never been asked to place either bag in a sizer in over 35 years of consistent high mileage business and leisure travel across several airlines (although sizers are a relative recent development). I have however, placed my various spinner bags in a sizer voluntarily just to make sure they didn’t exceed the lines. One time I measured the sizer height with a tape measure and it was 22.25” to the top edge of the gray line.
#99
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I’m reminded of the Saturday Night Live episode of the boarding of Flight 314 some years ago.