Sep 17, 2019, 9:49 am
Last edit by: JDiver
PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING!
As we approach the end of the status year (31 Jan 2021, but now including interim extended use dates after 31 Jan 2020), AAdvantage members on FT with no opportunity or plans to use expiring SWU (31 Jan 2021) often gift them to other FlyerTalk members. This traditionally has begun in September, but with new interim expiry dates the thread is current now.
Please familiarize yourself with these ground rules. Posts that do not conform to these rules will be summarily deleted (without notice to the poster).
AA: "Upgrades are void if sold or advertised for sale for cash or other considerations. Members may designate another passenger to use their upgrades."
For recent obsolete posts, please see ARCHIVE: Expiring SWU / VIP giveaway (strictly freely given): 2018 Edition (link).
Thanks everyone!
~AAdvantage forum Moderator team
NOTE: The 31 Jan 2020 thread has been archived here.
As we approach the end of the status year (31 Jan 2021, but now including interim extended use dates after 31 Jan 2020), AAdvantage members on FT with no opportunity or plans to use expiring SWU (31 Jan 2021) often gift them to other FlyerTalk members. This traditionally has begun in September, but with new interim expiry dates the thread is current now.
Please familiarize yourself with these ground rules. Posts that do not conform to these rules will be summarily deleted (without notice to the poster).
AA: "Upgrades are void if sold or advertised for sale for cash or other considerations. Members may designate another passenger to use their upgrades."
- Asking for SWU here is not permitted! Donors will post here, and members are welcome to communicate via PM from there. If you don't see an open request, don't ask for one.
- To comply with AAdvantage T&C, SWU must given freely, with no strings attached. Requests for money, trading for SWU with different expiry or another airline’s instruments, or any other consideration, whether in the clear or via PM, are not allowed.
- Out of respect of our generous donors, please follow their instructions and contact them with the information they request.
- Donors can ultimately make the choice of recipient (tenured/contributive member, longer flight itineraries, international vs. domestic, etc.).
- Recipients are solely and entirely responsible for the payment of any fees or taxes associated with the use of a gifted SWU (e.g. United Kingdom Air Passenger Duty or French taxe de solidarité sur les billets d'avion).
- This thread is NOT for the discussion of ethics, entitlement, or nomination of charities/groups as recipients. (Donating instruments for use in charity auctions or as prizes is prohibited by AAdvantage terms and conditions.)
- If anybody offers to sell, buy, barter or trade SWU by PM, please contact the moderators immediately, as this is a violation of AAdvantage and FlyerTalk rules. FT members have been sanctioned by AA in the past for these kinds of actions. Appropriate disciplinary action will be taken.
For recent obsolete posts, please see ARCHIVE: Expiring SWU / VIP giveaway (strictly freely given): 2018 Edition (link).
Thanks everyone!
~AAdvantage forum Moderator team
Using expiring SWU beyond their expiration date.
It has been reported as possible here that some may be able to use an SWU beyond it’s programmed expiration date:
Those few very high value flyers with high “Eagle” (Helix score) ratings may receive extensions for unused SWU, but that is not an option for most AAdvantage members. Requests to do so will be met with a firm “no” from AA.
The system will, however, pull the SWU with the earliest expiration date. At least it has recently, and no reports on this being “fixed” have been reported. There are certain conditions that must be met for this to occur:
The AAdvantage member must have requalified as Concierge Key or Executive Platinum for the 2020 status year, and have SWU expiring 31 Jan 2021 in their account.
The SWU “pull” by the system must be prior to the SWU expiration date, even if the flight is past it - e.g. sometimes a SWU will “pull” long before the formal upgrade window, or if you can confirm a flight occurring 1 Feb or later with an SWU upgrade prior to 31 January — the system is programmed to pull your SWU with the earliest expiration date.
You can’t call and request this, it occurs naturally because (at least recently) the system is programmed that way. An agent will merely tell you this can’t be done (potentially, unless you’ve got Eagles galore.
You can’t upgrade using miles and copay, then switch to a SWU.
CAVEAT: It’s always possible the system has been altered to end this possibility, but it was extant early 2020.
It has been reported as possible here that some may be able to use an SWU beyond it’s programmed expiration date:
Those few very high value flyers with high “Eagle” (Helix score) ratings may receive extensions for unused SWU, but that is not an option for most AAdvantage members. Requests to do so will be met with a firm “no” from AA.
The system will, however, pull the SWU with the earliest expiration date. At least it has recently, and no reports on this being “fixed” have been reported. There are certain conditions that must be met for this to occur:
The AAdvantage member must have requalified as Concierge Key or Executive Platinum for the 2020 status year, and have SWU expiring 31 Jan 2021 in their account.
The SWU “pull” by the system must be prior to the SWU expiration date, even if the flight is past it - e.g. sometimes a SWU will “pull” long before the formal upgrade window, or if you can confirm a flight occurring 1 Feb or later with an SWU upgrade prior to 31 January — the system is programmed to pull your SWU with the earliest expiration date.
You can’t call and request this, it occurs naturally because (at least recently) the system is programmed that way. An agent will merely tell you this can’t be done (potentially, unless you’ve got Eagles galore.
You can’t upgrade using miles and copay, then switch to a SWU.
CAVEAT: It’s always possible the system has been altered to end this possibility, but it was extant early 2020.
ARCHIVE: SWU Expiring by 31 Jan 2021 giveaway thread (NO ASK; terms & conditions)
Sep 17, 2019, 9:47 am
#1
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
ARCHIVE: SWU Expiring by 31 Jan 2021 giveaway thread (NO ASK; terms & conditions)
PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING!
Please familiarize yourself with these ground rules. Posts that do not conform to these rules will be summarily deleted (without notice to the poster).
AA: "Upgrades are void if sold or advertised for sale for cash or other considerations. Members may designate another passenger to use their upgrades."
For recent obsolete posts, please see ARCHIVE: Expiring SWU / VIP giveaway (strictly freely given): 2018 Edition (link).
Thanks everyone!
~AAdvantage forum Moderator team
Please familiarize yourself with these ground rules. Posts that do not conform to these rules will be summarily deleted (without notice to the poster).
AA: "Upgrades are void if sold or advertised for sale for cash or other considerations. Members may designate another passenger to use their upgrades."
- Asking for SWU here is not permitted! Donors will post here, and members are welcome to communicate via PM from there. If you don't see an open request, don't ask for one.
- To comply with AAdvantage T&C, SWU must given freely, with no strings attached. Requests for money, trading for SWU with different expiry or another airline’s instruments, or any other consideration, whether in the clear or via PM, are not allowed.
- Out of respect of our generous donors, please follow their instructions and contact them with the information they request.
- Donors can ultimately make the choice of recipient (tenured/contributive member, longer flight itineraries, international vs. domestic, etc.).
- Recipients are solely and entirely responsible for the payment of any fees or taxes associated with the use of a gifted SWU (e.g. United Kingdom Air Passenger Duty or French taxe de solidarité sur les billets d'avion).
- This thread is NOT for the discussion of ethics, entitlement, or nomination of charities/groups as recipients. (Donating instruments for use in charity auctions or as prizes is prohibited by AAdvantage T&C.)
- If anybody offers to sell, buy, barter or trade SWU by PM, please contact the moderators immediately, as this is a violation of AAdvantage and FlyerTalk rules. Appropriate disciplinary action will be taken.
For recent obsolete posts, please see ARCHIVE: Expiring SWU / VIP giveaway (strictly freely given): 2018 Edition (link).
Thanks everyone!
~AAdvantage forum Moderator team
Last edited by JDiver; Jan 5, 2020 at 9:49 am
Aug 28, 2020, 8:29 pm
#2
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: KBOS
Programs: AA EXP, HH Diamond, Global Entry
Posts: 78
Mods, can we get a new thread for SWUs expiring in Oct ‘20 and/or 2021 SWUs? Tried searching but didn’t see one.
I have 2 SWUs expiring 10/31 that I’m not going to use and want to give away rather than go to waste. Quasi first come first served, but preference will be given to longer flights (usually look for international or transcon), and no waitlisting (space must be available).
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Last edited by Zinc_Saucier; Sep 2, 2020 at 5:54 pm
Aug 28, 2020, 10:58 pm
#3
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
As indicated in the Wikipost, DO NOT POST REQUESTS HERE. PM the member offering SWU.
That includes lobbying or attempting to add strength to a request. There are very good reasons for these guidelines (Wikipost).
Thank you. /Moderator
Asking for SWU here is not permitted!
Donors will post here, and members are welcome to communicate via PM from there. If you don't see an open request, don't ask for one.
That includes lobbying or attempting to add strength to a request. There are very good reasons for these guidelines (Wikipost).
Thank you. /Moderator
Sep 28, 2020, 2:34 pm
#4
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: DC
Programs: AA PPRO, HH Diamond, National EE
Posts: 603
Mods, can we get a new thread for SWUs expiring in Oct ‘20 and/or 2021 SWUs? Tried searching but didn’t see one.
I have 2 SWUs expiring 10/31 that I’m not going to use and want to give away rather than go to waste. Quasi first come first served, but preference will be given to longer flights (usually look for international or transcon), and no waitlisting (space must be available).
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Last edited by hawkfan7314; Sep 28, 2020 at 2:34 pm Reason: I no spell good.
Oct 27, 2020, 3:14 pm
#5
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ORD
Programs: AA ExPlat (2MM), Marriott LT Titanium
Posts: 291
Sorry for late notice folks, but I have 3 SWUs expiring on 10/31/2020. They were originally on a cancelled flight in May and then courtesy extended to 10/31/2020 but AA just told me they won't go any further. PM me with name and flight details if your flight is in the next few days and has some upgradable space, I'll give it a try. Preference to INTL, longer haul flights. I'll comeback and update thread as SWUs are used.