ryan182

Book PHX-SuperSecretCityB on a different airline and your fine. Book it on AA and there's a chance you will have one of the tickets voided.

justhere

If PHX-AAA was the last segment, no issues not using that and you don't use it, that could be considered hidden city ticketing.

ryan182

As said by others its more than AA FF number they can key off of, KTN, Name, payment, address etc are all easy ways for AA to identify impossible bookings. There's a bevy of evidence that AA doesn't play when it comes to violating the T&Cs of their program, you're much better off booking on a different airline if want to do what the OP is asking about.

C17PSGR

And ... since this is FT, why not fly to city AAA (or is it BBB) and then get a ticket to fly to city BBB (or is it AAA). Might be cheaper overall, add a couple of segments, and EQM

Although now I'm intrigued ... what cities does AA fly to from Phoenix that aren't served by WN ...hmmm ... COS, SGU, TUS, Yuma, Flagstaff

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justhere

Be aware that per AA's terms and conditions, not flying as ticketed, that is to say, not taking the flight from PHX-AAA, could be considered hidden city ticketing. Unless you pay the change fee, etc, it could be considered fraud. Not sure why some posters are suggesting you do that.

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greatsagex

I have a question along the same guidelines, but a little more complicated.

I flew ICN-DFW-TYS to make it to the Game of Thrones finale to watch with friends (wish I could have that back, wasnt worth the flight)

Naturally, I have a return ticket... now since then, my flight has been changed by AA, but not more than 1 hour. Agent said my flight could not be changed or cancelled, and I since cancelled the Citi AA Executive card it was tied to. (actually killed all AA credit cards) Ironically, I still want to go to Asia, just not ICN, and a week later than the date I projected when I booked in advance. Its the same cost just to book a new RT ticket to Southeast Asia, then it is to fly to ICN and premium econ on Cathay one way to my destination.

I am $1500 short on EQDs for Ex. Plat and every dollar matters, I already covered the 100k miles. I don't mind flying to DFW, and then travelling to another city from there, since it will be cheaper out of DFW, but Id rather not go to ICN.

Any advice or thoughts?

JJeffrey

Just buy whatever new ticket you want to SE Asia. Since the dates are a week later than your existing return flight to ICN there is zero risk of overlapping bookings or anything like that.

Then, monitor your existing return flight to ICN on that day. About an hour before the first flight, pull up your reservation at aa.com and cancel it. If there happen to be any weather or other delays that morning then put in a refund request to AA. You will be get refunded for that portion.

If everything is running smoothly, then no harm no foul, you will not be charged a change fee or anything like that unless you try to rebook the return portion to ICN. Assuming you don't rebook it then no one will ever look at that PNR again and after a year from original ticketing date it will fall off into the abyss.

Colin

two step to get a refund

1. use a small schedule change to request the next later/earlier flight.

2. later, request a full refund comparing original time to current flight time, which is now over whatever relevant threshold

Herb687

Even AA's AA-favoring one-sided terms and conditions are not going to bust you for a legitimate change in travel plans that requires flying PHX-BBB instead of PHX-AAA. I don't think hidden city gamers routinely try to cover their tracks by running up the bill with a second ticket.

Yes, one of the reservations from the same station on the same date might be canceled via an automated process. But to suggest that AA is itching for any chance to call it "fraud" is extreme.

Do people on this thread not have frequent short-notice multi-city business travel? Changes in travel plans after a trip has started?

Here's an interesting experiment.
Assume, like OP, that you have a ticket CCC-PHX-AAA:

• Land in PHX
• Go to Admirals Club
• Tell agent that you need to fly PHX-BBB instead of PHX-AAA.
• Will agent:
  • 1) Attempt to fool with/change/call tariff/reprice partially flown ticket 1 or;
  • 2) Sell you brand new ticket 2 PHX-BBB?

Pretty sure I know what will happen (well, assuming you can find an agent who can actually still do ticketing!)