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August 2019 international expansion announced

Old Aug 8, 2019, 8:27 am
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American Airlines new routes announcements

AA announced these new routes 8 August 2019:

DFW-TLV (Tel Aviv) 3x weekly 789 year-round, starting 09/2020
ORD-BUD (Budapest), 4x weekly 788 seasonal, runs 05/2020-10/2020
ORD-KRK (Krakow) , 5x weekly 788 seasonal, runs 05/2020-10/2020
ORD-PRG (Prague), 5x weekly 788 seasonal, runs 05/2020-10/2020
PHL-CMN (Casablanca) 3x weekly 752 seasonal, runs 06/2020-09/2020

New flights will be available for purchase Aug. 12, with the exception of TLV, which will be available for purchase Oct. 10.

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August 2019 international expansion announced

Old Aug 8, 2019, 5:03 pm
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Originally Posted by LINDEGR
Hyperbole like that is neither helpful/constructive nor accurate. ORD and CLT are much. much worse IMHO.
CLT is crowded but easy, IMO, it gets way too much hate on FT. ORD and PHL are interchangeably terrible.
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 5:13 pm
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Originally Posted by shd9
I think JFK is really a joy to connect T8-T8. The customs lines are never too long and with GE I can get from plane to lounge in 20mins, unlike ORD or LAX I need to do a terminal transfer.

The biggest problem is that AA has mostly given up in JFK (and in NYC in general). They canceled a lot of connecting frequencies from JFK so now people are stuck with a JFK-LGA inter-terminal transfer, which in turn makes their international expansion from JFK difficult.
AA has made their decision. JFK will be smaller with O&D traffic only. Nostalgia is fun, but it doesn't pay the bills. Dougie is looking for hubs/flights that will actually make money. PHL is the East Coast International hub now -- that won't change in the foreseeable future.
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 6:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Cledaybuck
And JFK is a joy to connect in? Which airlines have better hubs and service to Casablanca?
I don't have anything particularly against PHL. But flying from LAX, I'd rather do a long and short flight with connection in MAD/BCN/LHR/CDG.
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 6:44 pm
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Originally Posted by formeraa
AA has made their decision. JFK will be smaller with O&D traffic only. Nostalgia is fun, but it doesn't pay the bills. Dougie is looking for hubs/flights that will actually make money. PHL is the East Coast International hub now -- that won't change in the foreseeable future.
And if AA was minting DL type money, then sure. Instead as an operationally loss making airline, it might be time to question the understanding of "hubs/flights that will actually make money".
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 7:41 pm
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Excited about the new routes.
But 757 metal to Casablanca is a meh!
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 7:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Antarius
And if AA was minting DL type money, then sure. Instead as an operationally loss making airline, it might be time to question the understanding of "hubs/flights that will actually make money".
That may be true, but I imagine JFK is not where DL mints money.
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 8:24 pm
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Curious which of the new flights in 2019 come back. Every time I’ve looked BLQ has had U availability which can’t be a good sign.
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 8:28 pm
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Originally Posted by PGFlyer85
Curious which of the new flights in 2019 come back. Every time I’ve looked BLQ has had U availability which can’t be a good sign.
DBV I think. I believe i read somewhere that TXL and BLQ are out.
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 8:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Antarius
DBV I think. I believe i read somewhere that TXL and BLQ are out.
That was JonNYC. I think he was wrong about TXL.
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 8:35 pm
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LO very randomly flies ORD-BUD 2x weekly (Tu/S) - I would be shocked if there were not subsidies involved here. Depending on how long they're provided, the route may last a second year beyond the first, but I think this flight is the least likely of the three ORD new flights to survive.

Having married into a Chicago family with Polish heritage, I learned that KRK is a more natural VFR destination for many O&D Chicago Poles than WAW, which LO already flies double-daily. I also think KRK POS could be a significant chunk of the traffic, as the 3x weekly LO flight is the only TATL the airport has in a catchment area of ~2mm.

Not sure what to make of PRG, other than it might have a chance of success as UA doesn't already fly it out of ORD and it offers a lot of one-stop routings not currently available on any airline, given that a connection is required in NYC or PHL for domestic feeders.

As for PHL, it isn't necessarily a terrible airport to transit -- it's the agents that are hands-down the worst in the system.
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 8:43 pm
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Originally Posted by SiempreBCNJFK
That was JonNYC. I think he was wrong about TXL.
I most definitely was-- a major booboo on my part.

This chart is pretty good for getting up-to-date:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EBcon2GX...name=4096x4096
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 9:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Cledaybuck
And JFK is a joy to connect in? ........
The only bonus at JFK is the Flagship F lounge.
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 9:16 pm
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I hate PHL (and CLT while we're at it) as much as the next person but actually had a very easy I-D connection recently.
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 9:40 pm
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Originally Posted by vanillabean
“You're getting on that plane with Victor where you belong!”

https://www.cntraveler.com/story/american-airlines-new-routes-morocco-
If its a 757, I'd prefer to wait in Casablanca for a Lockheed Electra ...….and wait and wait and wait
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Old Aug 8, 2019, 10:04 pm
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Originally Posted by allset2travel
The only bonus at JFK is the Flagship F lounge.
T8 might be the best facility AA has systemwide. What else do they have that's nice?
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