Lawsuit Against AA-- Mistreatment of Pregnant Passenger, Emotional Support Dog
Aug 9, 2019, 12:52 am
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Also, according to Wikipedia, Gramps is one of the wealthiest landowners in LA. He should’ve helped her hire competent counsel. It’s pretty clear which of the two attorneys wrote this.
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Aug 9, 2019, 9:33 am
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Well, that inspired me to do some Googling. Very interesting and litigious family that includes arm merchants and a "celebrity" rabbi. I'm surprised that they fly commercial. Surely they could have found a competent lawyer to file this lawsuit if it had merit.
Aug 10, 2019, 4:11 pm
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Don’t forget about the “advanced notice” Plaintiff provided to AA. Horrible grammar throughout - weakens an already pathetically weak case. And what is a “comfort animal” anyway?
Also, according to Wikipedia, Gramps is one of the wealthiest landowners in LA. He should’ve helped her hire competent counsel. It’s pretty clear which of the two attorneys wrote this.
https://www.laweekly.com/arms-mercha...south-central/
I am not sure what the relevance of her family is to the lawsuit, other than to paint her as being a part of a cast of characters. Is it par for the course for adult grandchildren to ask their grandparents for advice on every little hiccup encountered in life and to use such hiccups as an excuse to ask for additional financial and other help in pursuing questionable litigation interests? Either way, there’s more than enough material to focus on the lawsuit itself and on the plaintiff without making the plaintiff’s family into the issue
Aug 10, 2019, 6:47 pm
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A reference to the family of the woman who is suing AA:
https://www.laweekly.com/arms-mercha...south-central/
Aug 10, 2019, 6:52 pm
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A reference to the family of the woman who is suing AA:
https://www.laweekly.com/arms-mercha...south-central/
I am not sure what the relevance of her family is to the lawsuit, other than to paint her as being a part of a cast of characters. Is it par for the course for adult grandchildren to ask their grandparents for advice on every little hiccup encountered in life and to use such hiccups as an excuse to ask for additional financial and other help in pursuing questionable litigation interests? Either way, there’s more than enough material to focus on the lawsuit itself and on the plaintiff without making the plaintiff’s family into the issue
Well ... if you've seen the movie, you'll understand the sensationalism and how they can afford to fly on paid J/F.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Dogs_(2016_film)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Dogs_(2016_film)
Aug 10, 2019, 7:07 pm
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^ - I'm waiting for the sequel. I'm more interested in the divorce subplot, the interplay of family relationships and the emotional turmoil existing in the family. Could go some way to our understanding of the grand-daughter's intense need for an ES animal.
Do we even know that the dog was an ESA and not a personal protection dog. Looking at the picture of the dog, it looks a lot more like an attack dog to me. Wasn't the grandfather on board the plane too? I mean with family like that in close proximity...…...
Do we even know that the dog was an ESA and not a personal protection dog. Looking at the picture of the dog, it looks a lot more like an attack dog to me. Wasn't the grandfather on board the plane too? I mean with family like that in close proximity...…...
Aug 10, 2019, 11:46 pm
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Aug 12, 2019, 9:30 am
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Reading the article and inferring the kind of wealth the family may have, I am surprised they even flew commercial. They could arguably easily have afforded to hire a private jet for the trip which would have alleviated the tender care the 87 year-old grandfather needed, the dog of course, and the plaintiff's comfort given her pregnant-heavy needs.
Aug 12, 2019, 9:32 am
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There's no mention anywhere in the lawsuit about cute, little Simba having any documentation from a medical provider to be considered an ESA or Service Animal. As mentioned previously, if the kennel wouldn't fit in the lav, then it probably would not fit under the seat as required. When the FA moved the dog to the lav, the passenger asked to remain nearby. That's not an involuntary downgrade. Also, why weren't any passenger witnesses included? Finally, I guess hubby had to make a decision between the anxiety-ridden wife and grandpa when deplaning. That's not the airline's problem.
Since the flight originated in Florida, I'm wondering if the state regulations regarding service animals would be applicable. Florida does not recognize ESAs. She was traveling to California which has even tighter restrictions. Was she breaking a state law with her actions?
American Airlines has some explicit requirements to use an ESA on a flight:
Forms required for travel
Emotional support / psychiatric service animals
You must complete, submit and receive approval of all 3 forms before your animal will be allowed to fly:
Reminds me of the time I had a flight on Delta with a guy quite literally dragging TWO Schnauzers on board the plane. He sat in the bulkhead row of coach with the dogs' squeaky toys telling everyone how the dogs needed to be comforted with the toys. I would have characterized him as an "HSA."
I ran into the flight crew while checking in at my hotel. It was an interesting conversation about what happened.
Since the flight originated in Florida, I'm wondering if the state regulations regarding service animals would be applicable. Florida does not recognize ESAs. She was traveling to California which has even tighter restrictions. Was she breaking a state law with her actions?
American Airlines has some explicit requirements to use an ESA on a flight:
Forms required for travel
Emotional support / psychiatric service animals
You must complete, submit and receive approval of all 3 forms before your animal will be allowed to fly:
- Medical / Mental Health Professional Form
- Veterinary Health Form, or vaccination record with current rabies vaccination information
- Confirmation of Animal Behavior Form
Reminds me of the time I had a flight on Delta with a guy quite literally dragging TWO Schnauzers on board the plane. He sat in the bulkhead row of coach with the dogs' squeaky toys telling everyone how the dogs needed to be comforted with the toys. I would have characterized him as an "HSA."
I ran into the flight crew while checking in at my hotel. It was an interesting conversation about what happened.
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Aug 12, 2019, 9:57 am
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Reading the article and inferring the kind of wealth the family may have, I am surprised they even flew commercial. They could arguably easily have afforded to hire a private jet for the trip which would have alleviated the tender care the 87 year-old grandfather needed, the dog of course, and the plaintiff's comfort given her pregnant-heavy needs.