This guy’s feet were on our to be shared Admirals Club table
Jul 21, 2019, 9:18 am
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The Admiral's Club is not a public space, as the phrase is used in a legal context. A "public space" is a street, a sidewalk, a park, the beach, or any place owned by the public and open to literally anyone and anything.
The Admiral's Club is a private business open to the public. Private business owners have the right to regulate conduct on their property, and the Admiral's Club does so: "Any conduct that is deemed by American to be inappropriate, undignified, disruptive, abusive or violent is prohibited, and American reserves the right to remove any member or visitor for such conduct, or for failing to comply with membership terms and conditions."
Or you could go even further and say that the Admiral's Club is a private club open to members, which makes the expectation of privacy even stronger. I doubt that would fly, though.
The Admiral's Club is a private business open to the public. Private business owners have the right to regulate conduct on their property, and the Admiral's Club does so: "Any conduct that is deemed by American to be inappropriate, undignified, disruptive, abusive or violent is prohibited, and American reserves the right to remove any member or visitor for such conduct, or for failing to comply with membership terms and conditions."
Or you could go even further and say that the Admiral's Club is a private club open to members, which makes the expectation of privacy even stronger. I doubt that would fly, though.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Country_specific_consent_requirements
Last edited by teemuflyer; Jul 21, 2019 at 9:24 am
Jul 21, 2019, 9:24 am
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Posting his picture is 100% unacceptable imo regardless of his behavior. You have completely invaded his privacy given you have his face displayed and may now be legally liable to defamation. Unlike the feet picture playing with IFV you can see his face vs feet guy
Look, how would you feel if someone posted your face online like this. What if his employer sees this?
Look, how would you feel if someone posted your face online like this. What if his employer sees this?
It may be unacceptable to you, however it is completely legal. When you go into public anyone can photograph you whether you give them permission or not. If the individual in the photo did not want to be seen in this position, he should not have been in that position in the first place. Don't do something in public around other people that you don't want other people to see.
Taking a picture and posting it online, without the person’s consent, is far worse a transgression then this person putting their feet up.
I do not agree with them putting their feet up. It is poor manners. Though I think we’ve all had long travel days. Been a bit tired, and maybe got a little more comfortable then we should have.
I do not understand when it became “acceptable” to take photos of people and post them online, without their consent. It boggles my mind why anyone thinks this is ok. While it may be legal, it’s certainly not good manners to do so. Public shaming has gotten out of hand. It’s harmful.
I do not agree with them putting their feet up. It is poor manners. Though I think we’ve all had long travel days. Been a bit tired, and maybe got a little more comfortable then we should have.
I do not understand when it became “acceptable” to take photos of people and post them online, without their consent. It boggles my mind why anyone thinks this is ok. While it may be legal, it’s certainly not good manners to do so. Public shaming has gotten out of hand. It’s harmful.
The Admiral's Club is not a public space, as the phrase is used in a legal context. A "public space" is a street, a sidewalk, a park, the beach, or any place owned by the public and open to literally anyone and anything.
The Admiral's Club is a private business open to the public. Private business owners have the right to regulate conduct on their property, and the Admiral's Club does so: "Any conduct that is deemed by American to be inappropriate, undignified, disruptive, abusive or violent is prohibited, and American reserves the right to remove any member or visitor for such conduct, or for failing to comply with membership terms and conditions."
Or you could go even further and say that the Admiral's Club is a private club open to members, which makes the expectation of privacy even stronger. I doubt that would fly, though.
The Admiral's Club is a private business open to the public. Private business owners have the right to regulate conduct on their property, and the Admiral's Club does so: "Any conduct that is deemed by American to be inappropriate, undignified, disruptive, abusive or violent is prohibited, and American reserves the right to remove any member or visitor for such conduct, or for failing to comply with membership terms and conditions."
Or you could go even further and say that the Admiral's Club is a private club open to members, which makes the expectation of privacy even stronger. I doubt that would fly, though.
Yet some have missed THAT point, and choose to focus instead on something TOTALLY irrelevant to the act(s).
(Sarcasm)And I am shocked, shocked I say, that more of the PC police here aren't rising to the defense and condoning the behavior of this poor man. After all, its a free country. He can put his feet anywhere he darn well pleases. Maybe the AC should have a "Feet on the furniture/Toenail Clipping room" to prevent further Civil Rights violations(Sarcasm of)
Or, on the other hand, if one just goes about his/her business, than one need not worry about being castigated by the KGB or the PC Police here, for any reason.
Jul 21, 2019, 9:31 am
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The title of the thread also seems inaccurate, as the picture is not of the guy's feet on a table to be shared, as it appears to be an end table.
The table with the food appear to be shared.
Jul 21, 2019, 9:43 am
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I wonder if the guy puts his feet on the furniture at home? He is exhibiting behavior that is rude, crude, ill mannered, selfish, DWKIA, offensive, unhealthy, etc,.
Yet some have missed THAT point, and choose to focus instead on something TOTALLY irrelevant to the act(s).
(Sarcasm)And I am shocked, shocked I say, that more of the PC police here aren't rising to the defense and condoning the behavior of this poor man. After all, its a free country. He can put his feet anywhere he darn well pleases. Maybe the AC should have a "Feet on the furniture/Toenail Clipping room" to prevent further Civil Rights violations(Sarcasm of)
Or, on the other hand, if one just goes about his/her business, than one need not worry about being castigated by the KGB or the PC Police here, for any reason.
Yet some have missed THAT point, and choose to focus instead on something TOTALLY irrelevant to the act(s).
(Sarcasm)And I am shocked, shocked I say, that more of the PC police here aren't rising to the defense and condoning the behavior of this poor man. After all, its a free country. He can put his feet anywhere he darn well pleases. Maybe the AC should have a "Feet on the furniture/Toenail Clipping room" to prevent further Civil Rights violations(Sarcasm of)
Or, on the other hand, if one just goes about his/her business, than one need not worry about being castigated by the KGB or the PC Police here, for any reason.
Not a single one of the posts you quoted were defending feet-on-table guy.
However, one uncouth act doesn't justify another uncouth act....
Jul 21, 2019, 9:56 am
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People need to realize that their seemingly anonymous public behavior can, in this day and age, become exposed and cause a whole lot of trouble personally and/or professionally. Last year, I was sitting in F next to my father’s heart surgeon on a flight out of SAN. The doctor didn’t recognize me and I was about to thank him for doing a wonderful job on my father’s bypass when he started to drop F bombs about his PDB, treating the FA like she was an idiot. His behavior was so abusive that I almost felt compelled to video it. I lost all respect for that guy and I’m sure his practice will survive without any future business from any of my friends and family but I cringe every time I think that this guy still performs surgery.
I don’t pretend to know much about privacy law but when you’re in a public area behaving badly, it would seem appropriate that you have no privacy protection.
I don’t pretend to know much about privacy law but when you’re in a public area behaving badly, it would seem appropriate that you have no privacy protection.
Jul 21, 2019, 10:09 am
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Never been a germ a phobia kind a person so the impact of his feet on the table and etc. not a big deal for me.
I wonder how many other places where we can't see nasty on the surface might scare people ( bathroom, handles/rails, kitchen, utensils etc. )
If he was actually placing this on my shared table here is what I'd have done " excuse me, may we share the table to eat some things, BTW are your shoes clean ?"
Does he know sitting like that with his umm healthy tummy not good for his back and legs carrying that extra baggage all the time
BTW agree with every other poster, there was no need to post his face, nor anything but his feet!!!!!
I wonder how many other places where we can't see nasty on the surface might scare people ( bathroom, handles/rails, kitchen, utensils etc. )
If he was actually placing this on my shared table here is what I'd have done " excuse me, may we share the table to eat some things, BTW are your shoes clean ?"
Does he know sitting like that with his umm healthy tummy not good for his back and legs carrying that extra baggage all the time
BTW agree with every other poster, there was no need to post his face, nor anything but his feet!!!!!
Jul 21, 2019, 10:26 am
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Never been a germ a phobia kind a person so the impact of his feet on the table and etc. not a big deal for me.
I wonder how many other places where we can't see nasty on the surface might scare people ( bathroom, handles/rails, kitchen, utensils etc. )
If he was actually placing this on my shared table here is what I'd have done " excuse me, may we share the table to eat some things, BTW are your shoes clean ?"
Does he know sitting like that with his umm healthy tummy not good for his back and legs carrying that extra baggage all the time
BTW agree with every other poster, there was no need to post his face, nor anything but his feet!!!!!
I wonder how many other places where we can't see nasty on the surface might scare people ( bathroom, handles/rails, kitchen, utensils etc. )
If he was actually placing this on my shared table here is what I'd have done " excuse me, may we share the table to eat some things, BTW are your shoes clean ?"
Does he know sitting like that with his umm healthy tummy not good for his back and legs carrying that extra baggage all the time
BTW agree with every other poster, there was no need to post his face, nor anything but his feet!!!!!
Jul 21, 2019, 10:35 am
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Jul 21, 2019, 11:21 am
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At least he had his shoes ON.
Over 30 years ago I was riding from Paris to Munich on an overnight train (FC coach via my Eurailpass). Two migrant workers (who should have been in 2nd class) decided to ride in FC, when they took off there shoes the odor made the compartment uninhabitable.
Over 30 years ago I was riding from Paris to Munich on an overnight train (FC coach via my Eurailpass). Two migrant workers (who should have been in 2nd class) decided to ride in FC, when they took off there shoes the odor made the compartment uninhabitable.
Jul 21, 2019, 12:25 pm
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If the picture is taken in a public space, like this one, there is zero "legal difference". There is no law against taking a picture of someone in a public space and posting it on the internet.
Last edited by RoxyMountain; Jul 21, 2019 at 12:35 pm