AA Million Miler Doesnt Reward Long Term Loyalty... Learn From My Mistake
#31
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Make your decisions like all programs are going to collapse next week.
Goodness, why? Why would you believe them?
#32
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I mean, the title of the thread literally includes the words "learn from my mistake" and I don't see anything in the OP demanding different behavior from AA, so...seems fine?
I think OP makes it quite clear that there was lots of BIS flying, and I've yet to hear of someone who earned CK from predominantly economy travel, so those points seem like strawmen.
I think OP makes it quite clear that there was lots of BIS flying, and I've yet to hear of someone who earned CK from predominantly economy travel, so those points seem like strawmen.
The whole rant with comments such as "they (sic) drop you in a flash " suggest an expectation of benefits other than published
In the end, it is just a business relationship - the airline doesn't 'care' about the people, it just provides benefits based on its criteria - if the benefits are better elsewhere, then go elsewhere , but no reason to rant about it
#34
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LAA even before 2011 never had Lifetime EXP. The max level has always been Lifetime PLT. If one doesn't take the time to understand the program benefits it's on them. As has been said loyalty programs are aimed to keep you coming back.
#35
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Incorrect -- UA gives 1K for 3MM and GS for 4MM.
#36
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Incorrect -- UA gives 1K for 3MM and GS for 4MM.
#37
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Regardless of the OP's situation, if you just read the text of the message without trying to impose any additional interpretation, it's totally sound advice: if you expect to fly >2 millions of miles, it is likely you'll end up with better lifetime status on many other airlines than AA. Did OP express that the best way possible? Probably not, but their frustration can nonetheless serve as an object lesson for future FlyerTalk readers who may find themselves with significant amounts of travel projected in the years ahead.
#38
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This is addressed squarely in the OP. Read the second to last paragraph.
Regardless of the OP's situation, if you just read the text of the message without trying to impose any additional interpretation, it's totally sound advice: if you expect to fly >2 millions of miles, it is likely you'll end up with better lifetime status on many other airlines than AA. Did OP express that the best way possible? Probably not, but their frustration can nonetheless serve as an object lesson for future FlyerTalk readers who may find themselves with significant amounts of travel projected in the years ahead.
Regardless of the OP's situation, if you just read the text of the message without trying to impose any additional interpretation, it's totally sound advice: if you expect to fly >2 millions of miles, it is likely you'll end up with better lifetime status on many other airlines than AA. Did OP express that the best way possible? Probably not, but their frustration can nonetheless serve as an object lesson for future FlyerTalk readers who may find themselves with significant amounts of travel projected in the years ahead.
#39
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OK. Alright. Fine. I'll do it...
OP, is there a specific incident in which you were contractually wronged by AA? Was there a legit expectation that wasn't met based on the terms,
or are you simply trying to convey the point that other carriers are currently more competitive with their benefits?
Hugs,
OP, is there a specific incident in which you were contractually wronged by AA? Was there a legit expectation that wasn't met based on the terms,
or are you simply trying to convey the point that other carriers are currently more competitive with their benefits?
Hugs,
#40
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This is addressed squarely in the OP. Read the second to last paragraph.
Regardless of the OP's situation, if you just read the text of the message without trying to impose any additional interpretation, it's totally sound advice: if you expect to fly >2 millions of miles, it is likely you'll end up with better lifetime status on many other airlines than AA. Did OP express that the best way possible? Probably not, but their frustration can nonetheless serve as an object lesson for future FlyerTalk readers who may find themselves with significant amounts of travel projected in the years ahead.
Regardless of the OP's situation, if you just read the text of the message without trying to impose any additional interpretation, it's totally sound advice: if you expect to fly >2 millions of miles, it is likely you'll end up with better lifetime status on many other airlines than AA. Did OP express that the best way possible? Probably not, but their frustration can nonetheless serve as an object lesson for future FlyerTalk readers who may find themselves with significant amounts of travel projected in the years ahead.
#41
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My loyalty will only extend up to making 2MM, then I'm a free agent. I could've told the OP that, and I'm presently a lowly 1,56MM.
#42
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#43
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#45
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Watered down indeed.
Not too long ago a colleague of mine (regular earned PLT in 2018) and myself (LTPLT 3.2 M or so but only 40-45K flown out of necessity on them in 2018) were waiting to board a flight ORD-CLT. Same fare class, same fare paid, booked same time, etc. on our Corporate system. Even checked in at the same time.
He was #4 on upgrade list - did not clear.
I was #12 on upgrade list with predictable results.
17 people total on upgrade list.
I just chuckled to myself on this one as my expectations are so low with AA, but I did find it interesting that there was certainly no preference in my direction for that 3.2M LT earned with all other things being equal. Indeed, based on this little story there seemed to be a bias AGAINST LT PLTs in their system.
BA/AS are the best places to credit for domestic/internationally as a result when I still need to fly AA now.
Not too long ago a colleague of mine (regular earned PLT in 2018) and myself (LTPLT 3.2 M or so but only 40-45K flown out of necessity on them in 2018) were waiting to board a flight ORD-CLT. Same fare class, same fare paid, booked same time, etc. on our Corporate system. Even checked in at the same time.
He was #4 on upgrade list - did not clear.
I was #12 on upgrade list with predictable results.
17 people total on upgrade list.
I just chuckled to myself on this one as my expectations are so low with AA, but I did find it interesting that there was certainly no preference in my direction for that 3.2M LT earned with all other things being equal. Indeed, based on this little story there seemed to be a bias AGAINST LT PLTs in their system.
BA/AS are the best places to credit for domestic/internationally as a result when I still need to fly AA now.