Flying AA Long Haul as BAEC Gold Card
#1
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Join Date: Feb 2019
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Flying AA Long Haul as BAEC Gold Card
Not sure if this is a question for here or the AA thread, but I am due to fly out from LHR to DFW on an AA flight (not booked through BA or on a BA codeshare). I am in their equivalent of WTP, but the cabin is full - as a BA Gold member, do I stand any chance of an upgrade due to overbooking? Or will all AA reward members (regardless of status level) be preferred before me?
I am expecting to remain in the current cabin! Also - does anyone know how AA's WTP cabin compares to BA's?
I am expecting to remain in the current cabin! Also - does anyone know how AA's WTP cabin compares to BA's?
#3
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Gold, IHG Diamond
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For upgrade priority, AA counts all AAdvantage members ahead of other people, including OWE.
This might lead to an OpUp or Downgrade thought, and not sure how AA prioritize this; but would check-in as close to T-24 as possible.
Departing from LHR EU261 applies, but not on the return.
This might lead to an OpUp or Downgrade thought, and not sure how AA prioritize this; but would check-in as close to T-24 as possible.
Departing from LHR EU261 applies, but not on the return.
#4
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Given that an AA Gold (the lowest tier of AA elite) outranks a BA Prem for OpUp freebie UG's on AA, the chances during high season on that route are miniscule, particularly because the chances of any OpUps are slim in the first place.
#5
Join Date: Jun 2013
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upgrades?, sorry, like others have said.. AA members first, but also understand that there may be a few no show passengers..
but having said that, I have been upgraded on BA as a AA EXP a few times form J to F.. maybe their were not enough BA golds traveling that day (LHR to BOM)
but having said that, I have been upgraded on BA as a AA EXP a few times form J to F.. maybe their were not enough BA golds traveling that day (LHR to BOM)
#6
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To be clear, AA will not provide free UG's to anyone on this flight other than for its own operational necessity. Thus, if there are F / J no shows, and neither PE nor Y are oversold at the gate, the seats will go out empty or to passengers with supported UG's.
#7
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Las Vegas
Programs: BA Gold; Hilton Honors Diamond
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You do stand a chance, although I would say it's remote. The reason I say that is because my fiancée and I were both recently upgraded from PE to J on AA on a flight from LHR to LAX. We are both Gold and neither have status with AA. I have had a small number of upgrades with AA but with this one exception all have been short-haul flights.
AA will definitely prioritise its own FFP members ahead of any other OW frequent fliers and, to that extent, you can't even get on the upgrade list. That's not to say, however, that you won't be upgraded as a last resort due to operational issues on the day.
AA will definitely prioritise its own FFP members ahead of any other OW frequent fliers and, to that extent, you can't even get on the upgrade list. That's not to say, however, that you won't be upgraded as a last resort due to operational issues on the day.
#9
Join Date: Dec 2009
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The way it is:
AA Upgrades: A well-defined paid system (SWUs, miles+money, money) followed by a well-defined AA status-based system for domestic flights [1] or a vaguely status-correlated confusion for international flights.
BA Upgrades: A well-defined paid system (Avios, GUFs, AUPs, POUGs, etc) followed by very vaguely status-correlated and miserly benefaction for all flights.
On AA, as noted, you are below any AA status flyer and above any non-status passenger.
[1] Definitely the favourite topic on the AA forum, so head over there for more than you want to know and more harsh opinions and ranting entitlement than you need.
AA Upgrades: A well-defined paid system (SWUs, miles+money, money) followed by a well-defined AA status-based system for domestic flights [1] or a vaguely status-correlated confusion for international flights.
BA Upgrades: A well-defined paid system (Avios, GUFs, AUPs, POUGs, etc) followed by very vaguely status-correlated and miserly benefaction for all flights.
On AA, as noted, you are below any AA status flyer and above any non-status passenger.
[1] Definitely the favourite topic on the AA forum, so head over there for more than you want to know and more harsh opinions and ranting entitlement than you need.
Last edited by flatlander; Jul 12, 2019 at 12:49 pm
#10
Join Date: Jul 2007
Programs: BAEC OW Gold/Emerald
Posts: 538
I have just flown 3 long haul sectors on AA and 1 on BA. As far as the seats are concerned, they are similar by way of width, recline etc. Major difference is leather vs cloth upholstery. AA bulkhead seats at window offered 2 windows and ability to get in and out without disturbing seat mate. Maybe BA is same but always fly last row aisle in WTP cabin on BA.
All AA PE seats have decent IFE as they have recently installed PE cabins. BA as you may know depending on aircraft can have IFE of historical interest. I find the selection of movies and TV more extensive on AA than BA. AA has WiFi on nearly all aircraft.
Food... similar, but AA offered a quite substantial second service meal. Not helping my waistline.
While I am BAEC Gold too, I try to book on AA aircraft over BA.
Hope this is helpful. Safe flights and enjoy.
All AA PE seats have decent IFE as they have recently installed PE cabins. BA as you may know depending on aircraft can have IFE of historical interest. I find the selection of movies and TV more extensive on AA than BA. AA has WiFi on nearly all aircraft.
Food... similar, but AA offered a quite substantial second service meal. Not helping my waistline.
While I am BAEC Gold too, I try to book on AA aircraft over BA.
Hope this is helpful. Safe flights and enjoy.
#11
Join Date: Oct 2017
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I have just flown 3 long haul sectors on AA and 1 on BA. As far as the seats are concerned, they are similar by way of width, recline etc. Major difference is leather vs cloth upholstery. AA bulkhead seats at window offered 2 windows and ability to get in and out without disturbing seat mate. Maybe BA is same but always fly last row aisle in WTP cabin on BA.
All AA PE seats have decent IFE as they have recently installed PE cabins. BA as you may know depending on aircraft can have IFE of historical interest. I find the selection of movies and TV more extensive on AA than BA. AA has WiFi on nearly all aircraft.
Food... similar, but AA offered a quite substantial second service meal. Not helping my waistline.
While I am BAEC Gold too, I try to book on AA aircraft over BA.
Hope this is helpful. Safe flights and enjoy.
All AA PE seats have decent IFE as they have recently installed PE cabins. BA as you may know depending on aircraft can have IFE of historical interest. I find the selection of movies and TV more extensive on AA than BA. AA has WiFi on nearly all aircraft.
Food... similar, but AA offered a quite substantial second service meal. Not helping my waistline.
While I am BAEC Gold too, I try to book on AA aircraft over BA.
Hope this is helpful. Safe flights and enjoy.
I wasn't hugely impressed with the meals on AA: in particular, whenever I've flown their W product there was never any meat choices, which I found appalling! (They hadn't just ran out, it wasn't an option at all!) Can definitely second the recommendation of the window bulkhead seats on AA though. If both passengers are normal sized, you can get up while your seatmate stays in place.
#12
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: MSY
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I am BA gold, fly AA very frequently, and have been upgraded exactly once, due to overbooking. It was a MSY-PHL flight, a route that I fly about once a month. I think there are very few elites on that route, but even so, I expect nothing.
#14
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 1,285
To add my 2p, I'd say that the old BA WTP seats are more comfortable than AA's, especially for sleeping. However, AA has better IFE--this isn't a huge consideration for me, as I prefer to bring my own IFE, which is normally reading, but I know some people value it highly.
I wasn't hugely impressed with the meals on AA: in particular, whenever I've flown their W product there was never any meat choices, which I found appalling! (They hadn't just ran out, it wasn't an option at all!) Can definitely second the recommendation of the window bulkhead seats on AA though. If both passengers are normal sized, you can get up while your seatmate stays in place.
I wasn't hugely impressed with the meals on AA: in particular, whenever I've flown their W product there was never any meat choices, which I found appalling! (They hadn't just ran out, it wasn't an option at all!) Can definitely second the recommendation of the window bulkhead seats on AA though. If both passengers are normal sized, you can get up while your seatmate stays in place.
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