Rumor: AA to order A321LR or A321XLR (confirmed - see new thread)
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A321 across the Atlantic? No thanks
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I too a 757 LGW-CLE on CO back when that was happening after my LGW-IAH was so delayed I would have misconnected back to MSP. It was fine, and mostly empty. Maybe my opinion would have been different for a full flight.
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If you want to talk about rumors, US Airways was supposed to be one of the launch airlines of the A350, as Airbus helped fund the merger between America West and US Airways. There were actual orders for such, not just rumors.
How many A350s were in the US fleet at the time of the AA merger?
How many A350s were in the US fleet at the time of the AA merger?
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An empty row of three seats is an empty row of three seats except on a 767 your odds of claiming that are far worse. They might be a little wider on A321, better for attempted sleep.
I too a 757 LGW-CLE on CO back when that was happening after my LGW-IAH was so delayed I would have misconnected back to MSP. It was fine, and mostly empty. Maybe my opinion would have been different for a full flight.
I too a 757 LGW-CLE on CO back when that was happening after my LGW-IAH was so delayed I would have misconnected back to MSP. It was fine, and mostly empty. Maybe my opinion would have been different for a full flight.
For a while US had quite a few B757's running PHL-Europe flights. I remember DUB, AMS, I think even LIS for a while (and an occasional second London flight, I think it was LGW), and EDI, probably others.
When you think about it, the time between PHL and far Western Europe isn't much more than PHL to SFO or LAX.
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An empty row of three seats is an empty row of three seats except on a 767 your odds of claiming that are far worse. They might be a little wider on A321, better for attempted sleep.
I too a 757 LGW-CLE on CO back when that was happening after my LGW-IAH was so delayed I would have misconnected back to MSP. It was fine, and mostly empty. Maybe my opinion would have been different for a full flight.
I too a 757 LGW-CLE on CO back when that was happening after my LGW-IAH was so delayed I would have misconnected back to MSP. It was fine, and mostly empty. Maybe my opinion would have been different for a full flight.
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this reminds me of final months of Airberlin when you could have 4 XL seats all to yourself and FAs were guarding those seats. I scored it 3 times and got a good night of sleep. Those were the best Economy plus seats on TATL routes ...
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One point that is not being talked about here us the larger fuselage of tge narrow body airbus vs the boeing. This makes a big difference when it comes to seats. The extra 1 inch to 1.5 inches makes it a far more comfortable plane. The current 737 are horrible and the seats are narrow compared to the current 321s.
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Provide source please:
https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1...446900229?s=20
My rumor was then picked up here:
https://www.airliners.net/forum/view...?f=3&t=1423861
https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1...446900229?s=20
My rumor was then picked up here:
https://www.airliners.net/forum/view...?f=3&t=1423861
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...urope-flights/
"American Airlines serial leaker JonNYC has been sharing speculation that the airline could announce an order for Airbus A321XLRs at the Paris Air Show, which runs later this month June 17-23. Bloomberg has just now confirmed discussions between American and Airbus about the aircraft."
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https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1134553388446900229
Conversations confirmed:
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...urope-flights/
"American Airlines serial leaker JonNYC has been sharing speculation that the airline could announce an order for Airbus A321XLRs at the Paris Air Show, which runs later this month June 17-23. Bloomberg has just now confirmed discussions between American and Airbus about the aircraft."
Conversations confirmed:
https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...urope-flights/
"American Airlines serial leaker JonNYC has been sharing speculation that the airline could announce an order for Airbus A321XLRs at the Paris Air Show, which runs later this month June 17-23. Bloomberg has just now confirmed discussions between American and Airbus about the aircraft."
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321 XLR vs. 797
I wonder if AA will hedge any potential orders for the 321 XLR if Boeing announces that they will go ahead with the 797 program at the Paris airshow?
For one the 797 would be a twin aisle vs. a single aisle aircraft with somewhat more range. Much more efficient for boarding and deboarding the aircraft, plus with a more spacious feeling. The 797 is a potential replacement for the 757 as far as passenger load is concerned for mid-range flights.
For one the 797 would be a twin aisle vs. a single aisle aircraft with somewhat more range. Much more efficient for boarding and deboarding the aircraft, plus with a more spacious feeling. The 797 is a potential replacement for the 757 as far as passenger load is concerned for mid-range flights.
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The A321LR/XLR actually solves a number of problems with AA's TATL operation at JFK. After the merger, AA was never going to keep/build a large connecting hub at JFK for TATL traffic. PHL is cheaper, less congested, and aside from leakage to EWR on the NJ side, they dominate the market. Going to all 777 at JFK was about two things: the horrible reliability of the 767 and the need for a better hard product. But the 777 is way too much capacity for most TATL routes out of JFK without a connecting hub, especially where there's competition (even Delta, who has a large connecting hub at JFK, uses the 767 on many TATL routes). Hence the end of most non-LHR routes out of JFK.
If AA actually outfits the A321LR with high-end all aisle seats similar to the A321T in F, it will be very competitive and allow them to go into business markets and skim the highest-dollar O/D business travel demand without having to compete on price with Norwegian at the low end. Business travelers are not going to book away from this just because it's a narrowbody. I remember when the A321T replaced the 762 on JFK-LAX and there were a lot of upset FTers, but in the end people liked it because the new planes were much more reliable and the smaller size actually gives quite a good sense of privacy. Not to mention very fast boarding/deplaning time.
If AA actually outfits the A321LR with high-end all aisle seats similar to the A321T in F, it will be very competitive and allow them to go into business markets and skim the highest-dollar O/D business travel demand without having to compete on price with Norwegian at the low end. Business travelers are not going to book away from this just because it's a narrowbody. I remember when the A321T replaced the 762 on JFK-LAX and there were a lot of upset FTers, but in the end people liked it because the new planes were much more reliable and the smaller size actually gives quite a good sense of privacy. Not to mention very fast boarding/deplaning time.
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we will probably see seven across seating, BYO IFE, and hardback nonrecline first class AKA spirit. and yes, a single bathroom. No meal because the flight is under 2000mi, snack basket only. It’s what the customers want.