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Rumor: AAdvantage Program Devaluation 31-Jul

Rumor: AAdvantage Program Devaluation 31-Jul

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Old Jun 12, 19, 4:41 pm
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Just did a few searches through aa mobile app. Many flights from dfw to Mex, pek, hkg are showing less than 1cpp.

This is wrong and will destroy aa's award program, I hope they know what they are doing.
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Old Jun 12, 19, 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by chrisfwm View Post
Just did a few searches through aa mobile app. Many flights from dfw to Mex, pek, hkg are showing less than 1cpp.

This is wrong and will destroy aa's award program, I hope they know what they are doing.
CPP?
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Old Jun 12, 19, 5:52 pm
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Downward spiral continues

This makes me glad that I quit flying American 2 years ago. The advantage program at one time is the best it is now quickly getting down to be the worst
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Old Jun 12, 19, 8:07 pm
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Originally Posted by enviroian View Post
CPP?
Really CPM -- cents per mile.
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Old Jun 13, 19, 12:22 am
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Originally Posted by MiamiFlyer View Post
This makes me glad that I quit flying American 2 years ago. The advantage program at one time is the best it is now quickly getting down to be the worst
Seems to be closer to being in line with other schemes - it is a lot more generous than many redemption programmes out there - have a look at airlines such as QF and NZ annd compare earning/redemptions and other benefits. Wouldn't call it close to being the worst
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Old Jun 13, 19, 4:45 am
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I have been using miles for overseas this year... a lot.. just booked a trip to Europe using miles for my wife and myself...
I use to save them for trips to places that we would like to go.... but it worth it... often I can get there (in J or F) and can never get back
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Old Jun 13, 19, 5:00 am
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CPP?
Cents per point.
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Old Jun 13, 19, 5:38 am
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I thought it was cent per peso.
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Old Jun 13, 19, 6:42 am
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This hasn't affected partner bookings with JL has it?
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Old Jun 13, 19, 8:16 am
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Originally Posted by MSYtoJFKagain View Post
This hasn't affected partner bookings with JL has it?
I believe all partner award redemptions are exempt.....
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Old Jun 13, 19, 9:09 am
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I don't think AA would really have the capability to do dynamic pricing on partner flights, as the partners either do or do not make award inventory available on a given flight.

That certainly wouldn't rule out a devaluation of the partner award chart though, and I suppose they could have more peak/off-peak options, including maybe even different prices by day of week, but that's just speculating.
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Old Jun 13, 19, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by ijgordon View Post
I don't think AA would really have the capability to do dynamic pricing on partner flights, as the partners either do or do not make award inventory available on a given flight.

That certainly wouldn't rule out a devaluation of the partner award chart though, and I suppose they could have more peak/off-peak options, including maybe even different prices by day of week, but that's just speculating.
DL has different levels for a number of partners based on how far in advance the award is redeemed. For example, an award on VS in UpperClass is 86K with 60-day advance purchase (CSMH860 award), 135K with 21-day advance purchase (CSMG1350 award), and 160K miles with no advance (CSM1600). This resembles their own levels which have various advance purchase requirements for the cheaper award levels. The main exception at this point seems to be VA where you can often find close-in awards in J on LAX-SYD for 100K miles. It seems to me that the term "dynamic awards" is largely meaningless as it appears to mean different things to different people. Some seem to think it means awards vary based on revenue pricing with a fixed algorithm. Others seem to think they are generated on the fly based on various parameters (demand, status level, mileage balance, etc.). Neither of these is the case with DL's program.

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Old Jun 13, 19, 11:43 am
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Well yes, it's a vague term, just as "yield management" was when it was introduced 30 years ago or whenever, but I suppose the idea is the same -- extract more miles from customers on flights where there might be higher demand. Saver/Anytime is probably the most basic form of dynamic pricing, then they added extra Anytime levels. Arguably it already exists.

Agree that advance purchase could come into play, that's another extension of peak/off-peak, day-of-week, etc.
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