Of course the oven smells like food (3 hour+ delay from oven smell)
May 8, 2019, 12:06 pm
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Of course the oven smells like food (3 hour+ delay from oven smell)
this is an odd one. AA1048 dca-mia delayed 3+ hours. Apparently the crew noted in the log book a strong food odor smell in the oven in F. Not electrical, not burning. After 2 hours they deplaned us waiting to get the log book back. Still at the gate waiting.....
May 8, 2019, 12:56 pm
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someone slip some durian in there?
May 8, 2019, 2:42 pm
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Whilst Doug Parker courted Pilots and Flight Attendants to fall behind the merger, others were ignored. Mechanics in fact lost positions from outsourcing (e.g. all 777- heavy maintenance is performed by HAECO HKG) and closure of the Alliance maintenance base, and they currently have no contract. They haven’t called a strike, but they can cause pain by such tactics as walking the log - the aircraft can’t fly without the log, and the log can easily be “misplaced”, shopped around for verification and signing off, and in general take a long time being “found” and being restored to the cockpit.
We won’t debate the management-labor issue here - this isn’t the place for that or debating the cause of unions etc. - but we can certainly acknowledge the effect this conflict is wreaking on passengers and AA operations.
Good luck.
May 8, 2019, 2:52 pm
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Not crazy at all, and reported here with some frequency.
Whilst Doug Parker courted Pilots and Flight Attendants to fall behind the merger, others were ignored. Mechanics in fact lost positions from outsourcing (e.g. all 777- heavy maintenance is performed by HAECO HKG) and closure of the Alliance maintenance base, and they currently have no contract. They haven’t called a strike, but they can cause pain by such tactics as walking the log - the aircraft can’t fly without the log, and the log can easily be “misplaced”, shopped around for verification and signing off, and in general take a long time being “found” and being restored to the cockpit.
We won’t debate the management-labor issue here - this isn’t the place for that or debating the cause of unions etc. - but we can certainly acknowledge the effect this conflict is wreaking on passengers and AA operations.
Good luck.
Whilst Doug Parker courted Pilots and Flight Attendants to fall behind the merger, others were ignored. Mechanics in fact lost positions from outsourcing (e.g. all 777- heavy maintenance is performed by HAECO HKG) and closure of the Alliance maintenance base, and they currently have no contract. They haven’t called a strike, but they can cause pain by such tactics as walking the log - the aircraft can’t fly without the log, and the log can easily be “misplaced”, shopped around for verification and signing off, and in general take a long time being “found” and being restored to the cockpit.
We won’t debate the management-labor issue here - this isn’t the place for that or debating the cause of unions etc. - but we can certainly acknowledge the effect this conflict is wreaking on passengers and AA operations.
Good luck.
May 8, 2019, 2:59 pm
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Not crazy at all, and reported here with some frequency.
Whilst Doug Parker courted Pilots and Flight Attendants to fall behind the merger, others were ignored. Mechanics in fact lost positions from outsourcing (e.g. all 777- heavy maintenance is performed by HAECO HKG) and closure of the Alliance maintenance base, and they currently have no contract. They haven’t called a strike, but they can cause pain by such tactics as walking the log - the aircraft can’t fly without the log, and the log can easily be “misplaced”, shopped around for verification and signing off, and in general take a long time being “found” and being restored to the cockpit.
We won’t debate the management-labor issue here - this isn’t the place for that or debating the cause of unions etc. - but we can certainly acknowledge the effect this conflict is wreaking on passengers and AA operations.
Good luck.
Whilst Doug Parker courted Pilots and Flight Attendants to fall behind the merger, others were ignored. Mechanics in fact lost positions from outsourcing (e.g. all 777- heavy maintenance is performed by HAECO HKG) and closure of the Alliance maintenance base, and they currently have no contract. They haven’t called a strike, but they can cause pain by such tactics as walking the log - the aircraft can’t fly without the log, and the log can easily be “misplaced”, shopped around for verification and signing off, and in general take a long time being “found” and being restored to the cockpit.
We won’t debate the management-labor issue here - this isn’t the place for that or debating the cause of unions etc. - but we can certainly acknowledge the effect this conflict is wreaking on passengers and AA operations.
Good luck.
May 8, 2019, 3:20 pm
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Why AA hasn't join the 21st century in which the log would be on an app on a tablet that could be sent to the Captain electronically for final approval is beyond me. This is nothing new, waiting for maintenance show back up for a 15 minute fix with the maintenance log.
I think that isn’t germane once it was reported and handed over to mechanics, and the OP is apparently awaiting log return. The OP has to worry about crew timing out.
May 8, 2019, 3:48 pm
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I guess when it happened to me and I was in the middle of it, the labor issue didn't dawn on me, but makes perfect sense. In the air now, 4.25 hours late. I'll be missing one of my son's college graduation dinner events. Oh well.
Reported by an FA is my guess but it was definitely the cabin crew. The pilot was pretty exasperated on the PA while we were waiting before they gave up and deplaned us. I thought about the crew timing too but this is their first leg so that wasn't an issue, luckily.
Reported by an FA is my guess but it was definitely the cabin crew. The pilot was pretty exasperated on the PA while we were waiting before they gave up and deplaned us. I thought about the crew timing too but this is their first leg so that wasn't an issue, luckily.
May 9, 2019, 12:53 pm
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May 9, 2019, 2:17 pm
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Why AA hasn't join the 21st century in which the log would be on an app on a tablet that could be sent to the Captain electronically for final approval is beyond me. This is nothing new, waiting for maintenance show back up for a 15 minute fix with the maintenance log.
May 9, 2019, 4:07 pm
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, and given it was about oven odors it was likely an FA. Ultimately, mechanics were called in, they appear to have slow-walked repairs and “walked the log”. We don’t actually know much about this; it’s informed speculation, and given the times I’ve observed it quite possible.
May 13, 2019, 7:58 am
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Two exclamation points don’t mean it’s germane to know who reported the fault , and given it was about oven odors it was likely an FA. Ultimately, mechanics were called in, they appear to have slow-walked repairs and “walked the log”.
We don’t actually know much about this; it’s informed speculation, and given the times I’ve observed it quite possible.
, and given it was about oven odors it was likely an FA. Ultimately, mechanics were called in, they appear to have slow-walked repairs and “walked the log”.We don’t actually know much about this; it’s informed speculation, and given the times I’ve observed it quite possible.
Bringing up mechanic unhappiness was likely NOT germane since the FA initiated