ARCHIVE: AAdvantage Million Miler Program as of Dec 2011 (master thd)
#1786
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Still a bit confused as to how the new EQM system will work with the MM program -- since premium fares can now earn 2.0-3.0x EQMs, do you also get that multiplier towards Million Miler status now? Or is it just the actual flown miles?
Thought it would be flown miles, but I see a lot of references to base miles being the same as EQMs....
Thanks!
Thought it would be flown miles, but I see a lot of references to base miles being the same as EQMs....
Thanks!
One thing to watch out for is that under the outgoing system, partner flights that earned < 100% base miles only earned that many million-miler miles.
An example combining both is the I fare (discount business) on JAL. I flew KIX-BKK in I last year. That was 2585 flown miles, which earned:
1422 base miles, EQM, and million miler miles (2585*.55)
3,199 RDM (1422 + 100% PLT + 25% CoS)
2,133 EQP (inferred, since they don't show these on the statement - base * 1.5)
(As an aside, I didn't understand that EQP was base * 1.5 and not flown * 1.5, and had to do a quick SFO-LAX run at the end of the year...)
I'd be quite surprised if either of those changed under the new system; unless I've misread something it looks like that part it hasn't changed.
#1787
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Still a bit confused as to how the new EQM system will work with the MM program -- since premium fares can now earn 2.0-3.0x EQMs, do you also get that multiplier towards Million Miler status now? Or is it just the actual flown miles?
Thought it would be flown miles, but I see a lot of references to base miles being the same as EQMs....
Thanks!
Thought it would be flown miles, but I see a lot of references to base miles being the same as EQMs....
Thanks!
600 mile flight, fare earns 100% RDM, 50% EQM
You get 600 MM miles
Same flight, fare earns 150% RDM, 200% EQM
You get 600 MM miles
Same flight, fare earns 50% RDM, no EQM
You get 300 MM miles
Flight is 190 miles, fare earns 100% RDM, 100% EQM, you have 500 mile minimum
You get 190 MM miles, 500 RDM, 500EQM
Basically, you get up to 100% of BIS miles, with no minimum mile guarantee, tied to % of RDM earned.
#1788
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: San Diego US and Brisbane AU
Programs: AA EXP/2MM - DL PM - OZ Diamond - Bonvoy LTT - Hyatt Glob - IHG Plat - National EE - Sixt Platinum
Posts: 1,315
Higher-than-100%-of-flown EQP or class of service bonuses to RDM have never counted towards the million miler balance (well, not since that's been a separate balance; when it was just "program to date miles" CoS bonuses did count, just as the elite status bonus counted.)
One thing to watch out for is that under the outgoing system, partner flights that earned < 100% base miles only earned that many million-miler miles.
An example combining both is the I fare (discount business) on JAL. I flew KIX-BKK in I last year. That was 2585 flown miles, which earned:
1422 base miles, EQM, and million miler miles (2585*.55)
3,199 RDM (1422 + 100% PLT + 25% CoS)
2,133 EQP (inferred, since they don't show these on the statement - base * 1.5)
(As an aside, I didn't understand that EQP was base * 1.5 and not flown * 1.5, and had to do a quick SFO-LAX run at the end of the year...)
I'd be quite surprised if either of those changed under the new system; unless I've misread something it looks like that part it hasn't changed.
One thing to watch out for is that under the outgoing system, partner flights that earned < 100% base miles only earned that many million-miler miles.
An example combining both is the I fare (discount business) on JAL. I flew KIX-BKK in I last year. That was 2585 flown miles, which earned:
1422 base miles, EQM, and million miler miles (2585*.55)
3,199 RDM (1422 + 100% PLT + 25% CoS)
2,133 EQP (inferred, since they don't show these on the statement - base * 1.5)
(As an aside, I didn't understand that EQP was base * 1.5 and not flown * 1.5, and had to do a quick SFO-LAX run at the end of the year...)
I'd be quite surprised if either of those changed under the new system; unless I've misread something it looks like that part it hasn't changed.
EQMs are separate from MM miles. MM miles are base miles. Here's some examples:
600 mile flight, fare earns 100% RDM, 50% EQM
You get 600 MM miles
Same flight, fare earns 150% RDM, 200% EQM
You get 600 MM miles
Same flight, fare earns 50% RDM, no EQM
You get 300 MM miles
Flight is 190 miles, fare earns 100% RDM, 100% EQM, you have 500 mile minimum
You get 190 MM miles, 500 RDM, 500EQM
Basically, you get up to 100% of BIS miles, with no minimum mile guarantee, tied to % of RDM earned.
600 mile flight, fare earns 100% RDM, 50% EQM
You get 600 MM miles
Same flight, fare earns 150% RDM, 200% EQM
You get 600 MM miles
Same flight, fare earns 50% RDM, no EQM
You get 300 MM miles
Flight is 190 miles, fare earns 100% RDM, 100% EQM, you have 500 mile minimum
You get 190 MM miles, 500 RDM, 500EQM
Basically, you get up to 100% of BIS miles, with no minimum mile guarantee, tied to % of RDM earned.
#1789
Join Date: May 2011
Location: BOS
Programs: AA PLT, Marriott LTP
Posts: 493
LAA vs LUS Million Miler Calculation
Does anyone recall how LAA calculated miles towards your Million Miler status? As an ex-US flyer, US, if I recall correctly, used BIS only. Thus my multiple trips to Asia etc on Star Alliance airlines did not count. Which by the way I used the SA because US did not fly to those locations so there was no way to use US.
I thought I heard/read that AA used a different formula and counted mileage that US did not. I'm just curious because if that is the case, it seems there should be some accommodation made for ex-US flyers.
My ratio of total miles to Million Miler is ~3:1. I have 3X as many total miles then what they credited toward my Million Miler status. I checked my account today and it appears at some point over the last several weeks, they removed the total miles number. Either that or they moved it and I have not found it yet. (I wouldn't be surprised if they removed it.) I know in my case it was a bit disheartening to see I have X miles and only 1/3X are towards Million Miler.
Thanks in advance
I thought I heard/read that AA used a different formula and counted mileage that US did not. I'm just curious because if that is the case, it seems there should be some accommodation made for ex-US flyers.
My ratio of total miles to Million Miler is ~3:1. I have 3X as many total miles then what they credited toward my Million Miler status. I checked my account today and it appears at some point over the last several weeks, they removed the total miles number. Either that or they moved it and I have not found it yet. (I wouldn't be surprised if they removed it.) I know in my case it was a bit disheartening to see I have X miles and only 1/3X are towards Million Miler.
Thanks in advance
#1790
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Join Date: Jan 2002
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At one time all mileage accrued counted towards attaining lifetime status. Some time back, AA changed it such that from that point onwards, only base mileage counted towards lifetime status
When the 2 schemes merged, the US balance of lifetime status was added to the AA lifetime status balance
There is no credit towards AA status due for other mileage accrued to US
When the 2 schemes merged, the US balance of lifetime status was added to the AA lifetime status balance
There is no credit towards AA status due for other mileage accrued to US
#1791
Join Date: May 2008
Location: NYC
Programs: DL PM; UA 1K; AA 1MM
Posts: 4,514
Prior to December 1, 2011, million miler on LAA was technically an unpublished (but well known) program that counted every mile earned: BIS miles, elite bonus miles, class of service bonus miles, credit card miles etc etc. Every RDM you earned counted toward million miler.
Beginning December 1, 2011, LAA formalized the MM program and changed to BIS miles only, but this includes BIS miles on partners (at whatever, potentially partial, rate miles are earned on that partner for the fare purchased)
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...solidated.html
Beginning December 1, 2011, LAA formalized the MM program and changed to BIS miles only, but this includes BIS miles on partners (at whatever, potentially partial, rate miles are earned on that partner for the fare purchased)
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...solidated.html
#1792
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#1793
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There were some similar calls from members at the time and I advised them that no such "adjustment" was being considered nor had been considered. That, of course, has not changed.
#1794
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The merger process did not go back 20 years to re-calculate all of your miles on a different basis then had been used by US, and I don't believe there's any possibility they will do that. Especially this long after the merger completion.
US balances were added to AA balances. End of story. Move forward.
US balances were added to AA balances. End of story. Move forward.
#1795
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: SF
Programs: UA MM, AA 2MM, Bonvoy LTP, HH Dia
Posts: 1,132
Does anyone recall how LAA calculated miles towards your Million Miler status? As an ex-US flyer, US, if I recall correctly, used BIS only. Thus my multiple trips to Asia etc on Star Alliance airlines did not count. Which by the way I used the SA because US did not fly to those locations so there was no way to use US.
I thought I heard/read that AA used a different formula and counted mileage that US did not. I'm just curious because if that is the case, it seems there should be some accommodation made for ex-US flyers.
My ratio of total miles to Million Miler is ~3:1. I have 3X as many total miles then what they credited toward my Million Miler status. I checked my account today and it appears at some point over the last several weeks, they removed the total miles number. Either that or they moved it and I have not found it yet. (I wouldn't be surprised if they removed it.) I know in my case it was a bit disheartening to see I have X miles and only 1/3X are towards Million Miler.
Thanks in advance
I thought I heard/read that AA used a different formula and counted mileage that US did not. I'm just curious because if that is the case, it seems there should be some accommodation made for ex-US flyers.
My ratio of total miles to Million Miler is ~3:1. I have 3X as many total miles then what they credited toward my Million Miler status. I checked my account today and it appears at some point over the last several weeks, they removed the total miles number. Either that or they moved it and I have not found it yet. (I wouldn't be surprised if they removed it.) I know in my case it was a bit disheartening to see I have X miles and only 1/3X are towards Million Miler.
Thanks in advance
#1796
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Does anyone recall how LAA calculated miles towards your Million Miler status? As an ex-US flyer, US, if I recall correctly, used BIS only. Thus my multiple trips to Asia etc on Star Alliance airlines did not count. Which by the way I used the SA because US did not fly to those locations so there was no way to use US.
I thought I heard/read that AA used a different formula and counted mileage that US did not. I'm just curious because if that is the case, it seems there should be some accommodation made for ex-US flyers.
My ratio of total miles to Million Miler is ~3:1. I have 3X as many total miles then what they credited toward my Million Miler status. I checked my account today and it appears at some point over the last several weeks, they removed the total miles number. Either that or they moved it and I have not found it yet. (I wouldn't be surprised if they removed it.) I know in my case it was a bit disheartening to see I have X miles and only 1/3X are towards Million Miler.
Thanks in advance
I thought I heard/read that AA used a different formula and counted mileage that US did not. I'm just curious because if that is the case, it seems there should be some accommodation made for ex-US flyers.
My ratio of total miles to Million Miler is ~3:1. I have 3X as many total miles then what they credited toward my Million Miler status. I checked my account today and it appears at some point over the last several weeks, they removed the total miles number. Either that or they moved it and I have not found it yet. (I wouldn't be surprised if they removed it.) I know in my case it was a bit disheartening to see I have X miles and only 1/3X are towards Million Miler.
Thanks in advance
As with most of these items, if enough people complain, they will do something. Otherwise, they won't.
#1797
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LAA counted all earned miles up through 12/2011 toward MM status. After that, BIS on AA/OW only (with the exception of CC miles for 1 year). My ratio of total miles to MM miles is also roughly 3:1. I also cannot see total lifetime earned miles on AA.com anymore, but it's not really a relevant number these days.
#1798
Join Date: Jul 2016
Programs: American AAdvantage
Posts: 2
Consistent way of commemorating million miler flight?
Hi all, I'm new to FlyerTalk -- thank you for your patience!
I'm going to be passing the 1 MM mark on a flight next week. Does AA have any consistent way of recognizing flyers on their MM flight? I've heard UA sometimes gives its MMs a commemorative card. Anything similar for AA?
Thanks!
I'm going to be passing the 1 MM mark on a flight next week. Does AA have any consistent way of recognizing flyers on their MM flight? I've heard UA sometimes gives its MMs a commemorative card. Anything similar for AA?
Thanks!
#1799
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Posts: 5,270
You'll get a card in the mail. Nothing special on the flight itself, most likely.
#1800
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Zero chance of anything happening on the flight.
You will get 8 500 mile sticker upgrades when the flight posts, IIRC.
You will get 8 500 mile sticker upgrades when the flight posts, IIRC.