Where is the SWU available? (Are SWU usable / useful?)
Mar 17, 2022, 8:41 pm
#121
Join Date: Jun 2007
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, AA Exec Plat
Posts: 715
Question about EF and C inventory. I found C inventory available for LAX-LHR-CDG with LAX-LHR showing C7 on EF. I called AA, and they said no availability.
I then found LAX-JFK-CDG on EF w/ C7 inventory for both flights, and just to confirm, I checked each flight individually on EF, LAX-JFK and JFK-CDG again both show C7, but when I called AA they said no avail. Is EF wrong?
I then found LAX-JFK-CDG on EF w/ C7 inventory for both flights, and just to confirm, I checked each flight individually on EF, LAX-JFK and JFK-CDG again both show C7, but when I called AA they said no avail. Is EF wrong?
Mar 17, 2022, 8:57 pm
#122
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
Question about EF and C inventory. I found C inventory available for LAX-LHR-CDG with LAX-LHR showing C7 on EF. I called AA, and they said no availability.
I then found LAX-JFK-CDG on EF w/ C7 inventory for both flights, and just to confirm, I checked each flight individually on EF, LAX-JFK and JFK-CDG again both show C7, but when I called AA they said no avail. Is EF wrong?
I then found LAX-JFK-CDG on EF w/ C7 inventory for both flights, and just to confirm, I checked each flight individually on EF, LAX-JFK and JFK-CDG again both show C7, but when I called AA they said no avail. Is EF wrong?
Mar 17, 2022, 9:01 pm
#123
Join Date: Jun 2007
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, AA Exec Plat
Posts: 715
Wow thanks. I was going to flight availability and then entering in "C". I just went on EF and went to "awards and upgrades" and then entered C and sure enough everything is 0. What's the difference between the 2 C fares?
Mar 17, 2022, 9:04 pm
#124
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
C is a revenue fare class. A subset of it is for instrument upgrades. EF can tell the difference. I don't know exactly what's going on behind the scenes
Apr 2, 2022, 3:19 pm
#125
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
Programs: AA EXP, AA Million Miles, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,586
I've still only missed a grand total of two SWU requests in my time as EXP, dating to 2015 or so.
Apr 9, 2022, 5:37 pm
#126
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Join Date: Aug 2014
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Posts: 11,666
I don't know where the SWUs are, I haven't seen them lately, but AA has mile awards in J on the direct AA flights from ORD/PHL to ATH for April travel for 65-70k miles each way. Not a bad deal, great for Easter.
These are web specials, but for 65-70k on the direct flights to ATH are a steal...Some available for immediate travel.
These are web specials, but for 65-70k on the direct flights to ATH are a steal...Some available for immediate travel.
Apr 13, 2022, 8:28 am
#127
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: PHL
Programs: AA Executive Platinum; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,662
Every so often I see people post here about the uselessness of SWUs.
I want to say that my wife and I earned 12 SWUs from travels last year (both EXP).
To date, we have applied 10 of these at the time of booking and I fully expect to use the other 2 within the next few months.
I want to say that my wife and I earned 12 SWUs from travels last year (both EXP).
To date, we have applied 10 of these at the time of booking and I fully expect to use the other 2 within the next few months.
Apr 13, 2022, 8:56 am
#128
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Stilllwater OK (SWO)
Programs: AAdvantage ExecPlat, World of Hyatt Globalist, plain "member" of Marriott, IHG, enterprise, etc.
Posts: 1,848
Every so often I see people post here about the uselessness of SWUs.
I want to say that my wife and I earned 12 SWUs from travels last year (both EXP).
To date, we have applied 10 of these at the time of booking and I fully expect to use the other 2 within the next few months.
I want to say that my wife and I earned 12 SWUs from travels last year (both EXP).
To date, we have applied 10 of these at the time of booking and I fully expect to use the other 2 within the next few months.
Apr 13, 2022, 10:41 am
#129
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: DFW
Programs: AA EXP, BAEC Gold, IHG Platinum
Posts: 319
I was able to clear an SWU for a JFK-DEL flight in February 2023. Searched expertflyer and amazingly came across 1 C availability. Seemed like a unicorn since I haven't seen anything since. Also cleared 2 SWUs for an LHR-DFW flight next month.
Apr 13, 2022, 3:05 pm
#130
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: PHL
Programs: AA Executive Platinum; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,662
Apr 14, 2022, 6:43 pm
#131
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
Programs: AA EXP, AA Million Miles, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,586
Cleared another Y--->J SWU at booking today, on the flight I wanted, on the day I needed to fly:
ZRH-PHL, 788 aircraft , Friday departure (about three weeks from today).
(outbound, via a DFW-LHR flight, is waitlisted, but chances look decent at the moment)
ZRH-PHL, 788 aircraft , Friday departure (about three weeks from today).
(outbound, via a DFW-LHR flight, is waitlisted, but chances look decent at the moment)
Apr 15, 2022, 6:59 am
#133
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: MCO
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 26
Systemwide Upgrades, worthless?
I recently used a systemwide upgrade on a BOS to MCO itinerary connecting in MIA on 4/18. At the time I booked there was plenty of seats on the BOS to MIA flight. I’m EP so I usually get pretty good upgrades anyway but this one I REALLY wanted first and my systemwides are expiring in July so why not use one.
Well here we are 100 hours out, I have been upgraded on my Miami to Orlando flight, big deal I would’ve got that anyway with my EP status. But even since I woke up this morning seats on the Boston to Miami have dropped from 4 to 3.
So what is the point of them? I assumed it would’ve put me at the top of the list but I still seem to be getting bypassed. Are these things worthless or what? I’ve been EP for four years and I don’t think I’ve used one before, so I’m a little surprised and rather disappointed I haven’t been bumped yet. I would have paid for this upgrade if I didn’t think the system might upgrade would be effective, by now I’m sure a paid upgrade on those last three seats is going to be astronomical this close to departure.
Well here we are 100 hours out, I have been upgraded on my Miami to Orlando flight, big deal I would’ve got that anyway with my EP status. But even since I woke up this morning seats on the Boston to Miami have dropped from 4 to 3.
So what is the point of them? I assumed it would’ve put me at the top of the list but I still seem to be getting bypassed. Are these things worthless or what? I’ve been EP for four years and I don’t think I’ve used one before, so I’m a little surprised and rather disappointed I haven’t been bumped yet. I would have paid for this upgrade if I didn’t think the system might upgrade would be effective, by now I’m sure a paid upgrade on those last three seats is going to be astronomical this close to departure.
Apr 15, 2022, 7:05 am
#134
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How do you know the flight dropping from 4 to 3 available in F wasn't just a semi last minute purchase?
In any event on a busy Easter holiday weekend flying from the NE to Florida with only 3 or 4 seats left up front it's not surprising at all that it hasn't cleared yet.
In any event on a busy Easter holiday weekend flying from the NE to Florida with only 3 or 4 seats left up front it's not surprising at all that it hasn't cleared yet.