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Nonstop Flights from DFW to Hawaii (HNL,OGG,KOA)

Nonstop Flights from DFW to Hawaii (HNL,OGG,KOA)

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Old Mar 26, 19, 6:09 am
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Nonstop Flights from DFW to Hawaii (HNL,OGG,KOA)

I am looking for direct flights from DFW to cities in Hawaii. I take these flights once per year or so. I was trying to book a flight PHL-DFW-KOA in October but there are no direct flights from DFW-KOA that month. Further investigation shows no direct flight from DFW to any of the three Hawaiian cities in October/November/December. I have done this trip several times in November or December. I am wondering if this is a seasonal thing, or a permanent change, or maybe they just haven't loaded all of the routes in yet. Anyone have any insight?

N.B. I know that I can fly PHL-Hawaii via PHX or LAX but I strongly prefer going through DFW because I prefer the aircraft and the flight home is longer which allows for more uninterrupted sleep.
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Old Mar 26, 19, 6:16 am
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I rely on the DFW-HNL route for a client, this would not be ideal. I see flights on Matrix still, probably a glitch.

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Old Mar 26, 19, 9:14 am
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Originally Posted by apeortdz View Post
I am looking for direct flights from DFW to cities in Hawaii. I take these flights once per year or so. I was trying to book a flight PHL-DFW-KOA in October but there are no direct flights from DFW-KOA that month. Further investigation shows no direct flight from DFW to any of the three Hawaiian cities in October/November/December. I have done this trip several times in November or December. I am wondering if this is a seasonal thing, or a permanent change, or maybe they just haven't loaded all of the routes in yet. Anyone have any insight?

N.B. I know that I can fly PHL-Hawaii via PHX or LAX but I strongly prefer going through DFW because I prefer the aircraft and the flight home is longer which allows for more uninterrupted sleep.
There's definitely flights to HNL from DFW and ORD during those times. I think DFW-KOA and DFW-OGG too.

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Old Mar 26, 19, 10:01 am
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Originally Posted by apeortdz View Post
I am looking for direct flights from DFW to cities in Hawaii. I take these flights once per year or so. I was trying to book a flight PHL-DFW-KOA in October but there are no direct flights from DFW-KOA that month. Further investigation shows no direct flight from DFW to any of the three Hawaiian cities in October/November/December. I have done this trip several times in November or December. I am wondering if this is a seasonal thing, or a permanent change, or maybe they just haven't loaded all of the routes in yet. Anyone have any insight?

N.B. I know that I can fly PHL-Hawaii via PHX or LAX but I strongly prefer going through DFW because I prefer the aircraft and the flight home is longer which allows for more uninterrupted sleep.
Technically, you’re not actually looking for direct flights, which can include a connection; you’re looking for nonstop flights. DFW normally has nonstop flights to HNL, iirc ORD does as well - but that and OGG, KOA may be seasonal?
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Old Mar 26, 19, 10:22 am
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Originally Posted by JDiver View Post
Technically, you’re not actually looking for direct flights, which can include a connection; you’re looking for nonstop flights...
Technically, a direct flight could be nonstop, or have one or more stops enroute. It may also involve a change of gauge enroute (starting to get into a gray area....), but it would not involve a connection to another flight.
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Old Mar 26, 19, 10:29 am
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Technically, that's not true in airline lingo. Nonstop refers to a flight that goes from origin to destination with NO stops in between. Direct refers to flights with one or more stops between origin and destination.
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Old Mar 26, 19, 10:48 am
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DFW - KOA and DFW - LIH are both seasonal. For example last year KOA ran during whale season (week before Christmas - end of March) and summer break (June-Aug) - https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...rom-june-2018/
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Old Mar 26, 19, 10:51 am
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Google Flights is showing DFW-OGG nonstop, Oct 24 to Nov 7:It appears that there are 2 nonstop flights between DFW and HNL:
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Originally Posted by NYC Flyer View Post
Technically, a direct flight could be nonstop, or have one or more stops enroute. It may also involve a change of gauge enroute (starting to get into a gray area....), but it would not involve a connection to another flight.
Yep, more detailed explanation. I recall AA 48, iirc, SFO-DFW-FRA, which included a change of gauge sometimes, change of aircraft always and change of terminal always. “Direct”, like the MD-80 DFW-ORD and in to LHR via DC-10. Same flight numbers, direct, miles earned as if nonstop.
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Old Mar 26, 19, 8:26 pm
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There's definitely flights to HNL from DFW
AA 5, DFW-HNL, is among the AA flights operating for the longest time with the same flight number. Since at least the early 1980s, I think.
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