DFW - LHR 77W First Class Not For Sale
Mar 25, 2019, 8:04 pm
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DFW - LHR 77W First Class Not For Sale
We recently purchased a business class ticket DFW - LHR and used our SWU for first class at the end of December. At that time of year, EF shows 3 - 4 flights per day with most of the flights operated by a 77W. Looking at our departure date of 12/27/19, our flight shows F0, which I found unusual. So I searched the days surrounding our departure and most days have less that a total of F8 for all the 77W flights. There were also a lot of dates in November that showed the same thing, multiple 77W flights but very few first class seats, never more then 8 total for the entire day.
My only thought was a possible pending equipment swap for the DFW-LHR flights and they don't want to oversell first and only put a total of 8 seats up for sale to reschedule for these changes.
Has anyone seen this type of lack of availability ? It is a curiosity question more than a concern about our flight.
My only thought was a possible pending equipment swap for the DFW-LHR flights and they don't want to oversell first and only put a total of 8 seats up for sale to reschedule for these changes.
Has anyone seen this type of lack of availability ? It is a curiosity question more than a concern about our flight.
Mar 25, 2019, 8:13 pm
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I haven't followed up on if it loaded yet from when I reported it, but, yes, DFW is losing some 77W and they are going to JFK and LAX...
(note this answer was incorrect, see actual answer below)
(note this answer was incorrect, see actual answer below)
Last edited by JonNYC; Mar 26, 2019 at 11:42 am
Mar 26, 2019, 10:29 am
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Mar 26, 2019, 10:38 am
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Mar 26, 2019, 1:33 pm
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Mar 26, 2019, 2:00 pm
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If I had to guess, the thought process is along the lines of - "no one in DFW is going to another airline, so if they can't get their fare sometimes, meh, they'll be back. People connecting could have connected in ATL or IAH, so let's throw them something."
I guess that's the whole point of married segments, but the way AA is managing them seems....confused (or someone knows about someone else in GRU about to make a move). Either way, I don't work in RM/IM/YM, so my thoughts are worth less than the electrons that brought them to your eyes.
I guess that's the whole point of married segments, but the way AA is managing them seems....confused (or someone knows about someone else in GRU about to make a move). Either way, I don't work in RM/IM/YM, so my thoughts are worth less than the electrons that brought them to your eyes.
Mar 26, 2019, 2:12 pm
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Right, but it seems incredible to take availability to 0. I get that they might set A0, but F0 is odd. Doesn't it feel like someone at AA has discovered the married segment button and is going crazy with it?
Mar 26, 2019, 2:29 pm
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I noticed the same thing on the LAX LHR, but this time in PE.
I “snagged” what I thought was the last two W seats on the later service as the earlier service was zeroed out in both PE buckets. Flights are now showing on the way out
AA108
F7 A0 J7 R7 D7 I0 W0 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7M7 L7 G7 V7 S7 N7 Q0 O0
AA 136
F7 A0 J7 R7 D7 I3 W0 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7M7 L7 G7 V7 S7 N7 Q0 O0
If I opt to start and end at SAN, I get the following
AA 6062
J7 D7 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 G7 V7 S7N7 Q7 O7
AA 108
F3 A0 J7 R7 D7 I0 W2 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7M7 L7 G7 V7 S7 N7 Q7 O7
AA 2960
J6 D6 I2 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 G7 V7 S7N7 Q7 O7
AA 108
F3A0 J7 R7 D7 I2 W5 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7M7 L7 G7 V7 S7 N7 Q7 O7
AA 6089
J7 D7 I2 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 G7 V7 S7N7 Q7 O7
AA 108
F3A0 J7 R7 D7 I2 W7 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7M7 L7 G7 V7 S7 N7 Q7 O7
AA 6089
J7 D7 I6 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 G7 V7 S7N7 Q7 O7
AA 136
F3 A0 J7 R7 D7 I6 W7 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7M7 L7 G7 V7 S7 N7 Q7 O7
AA 6035
J7 D7 I1 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 G7 V7 S7N7 Q7 O7
AA 108
F3 A0 J7 R7 D7 I1 W4 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7M7 L7 G7 V7 S7 N7 Q7 O7
AA 6035
J7 D7 I5 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 G7 V7 S7N7 Q7 O7
AA 136
F3 A0 J7 R7 D7 I5 W3 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7M7 L7 G7 V7 S7 N7 Q7 O7
So now I’m seeing at least W availability and at least 1 itinerary is W7 depending on the flight taken out of SAN
I “snagged” what I thought was the last two W seats on the later service as the earlier service was zeroed out in both PE buckets. Flights are now showing on the way out
AA108
F7 A0 J7 R7 D7 I0 W0 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7M7 L7 G7 V7 S7 N7 Q0 O0
AA 136
F7 A0 J7 R7 D7 I3 W0 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7M7 L7 G7 V7 S7 N7 Q0 O0
If I opt to start and end at SAN, I get the following
AA 6062
J7 D7 I0 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 G7 V7 S7N7 Q7 O7
AA 108
F3 A0 J7 R7 D7 I0 W2 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7M7 L7 G7 V7 S7 N7 Q7 O7
AA 2960
J6 D6 I2 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 G7 V7 S7N7 Q7 O7
AA 108
F3A0 J7 R7 D7 I2 W5 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7M7 L7 G7 V7 S7 N7 Q7 O7
AA 6089
J7 D7 I2 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 G7 V7 S7N7 Q7 O7
AA 108
F3A0 J7 R7 D7 I2 W7 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7M7 L7 G7 V7 S7 N7 Q7 O7
AA 6089
J7 D7 I6 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 G7 V7 S7N7 Q7 O7
AA 136
F3 A0 J7 R7 D7 I6 W7 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7M7 L7 G7 V7 S7 N7 Q7 O7
AA 6035
J7 D7 I1 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 G7 V7 S7N7 Q7 O7
AA 108
F3 A0 J7 R7 D7 I1 W4 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7M7 L7 G7 V7 S7 N7 Q7 O7
AA 6035
J7 D7 I5 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 G7 V7 S7N7 Q7 O7
AA 136
F3 A0 J7 R7 D7 I5 W3 P0 Y7 B7 H7 K7M7 L7 G7 V7 S7 N7 Q7 O7
So now I’m seeing at least W availability and at least 1 itinerary is W7 depending on the flight taken out of SAN
Mar 26, 2019, 2:43 pm
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Mar 26, 2019, 4:30 pm
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Mar 26, 2019, 5:00 pm
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It's intentional but you make a good point that DFW-LHR fares are pretty good so I think that:
a) they may not be truly working the flight that carefully this far out-- I think that's a safe bet.
b) I think we have seen numerous examples lately of AA RM being overzealous (for lack of a better word) lately, and I think-- assuming we don't see this change in the next few months for winter holiday flights, will be another example of same.