F meals are getting pared back — again
Mar 22, 2019, 5:42 pm
#16
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Just this week I had a "short rib" reserved and instead got the fillet. So it seems they are actually making the substitutions. I've had the Zoe's charcuterie plate a few times now, and it's pretty good. I quite like the hummus (in contrast with the hummus they have on some shortish flights, which I found nasty, for whatever reason). This is a good option now if you can reserve in advance. The pAAthetic meal selections on a long-haul FC flight may influence my decision as to my routing that I've posted about elsewhere.
ETA: just read the article at VFTW. The substitution in my case was in the opposite direction, from short rib to fillet. (this was on domestic FC) I personally prefer the short rib, as I find it is much less likely to be overcooked.
ETA: just read the article at VFTW. The substitution in my case was in the opposite direction, from short rib to fillet. (this was on domestic FC) I personally prefer the short rib, as I find it is much less likely to be overcooked.
Mar 22, 2019, 6:02 pm
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Mar 22, 2019, 6:15 pm
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Mar 22, 2019, 6:20 pm
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Perhaps you should NOT fly AA or accumulate their program’s miles and take all of your business elsewhere. Then, you can spend your time on your new carrier’s forum much to the chagrin (secret pleasure?) of those on the AA forum.
Mar 22, 2019, 6:23 pm
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believe me, I’ve already stopped flying AA. Mainly DL and UA now. But I need to burn off my AA miles which got me thinking, in light of recent news, how deep in the toilet it’s gotten.
Mar 22, 2019, 6:29 pm
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Just this week I had a "short rib" reserved and instead got the fillet. So it seems they are actually making the substitutions. I've had the Zoe's charcuterie plate a few times now, and it's pretty good. I quite like the hummus (in contrast with the hummus they have on some shortish flights, which I found nasty, for whatever reason). This is a good option now if you can reserve in advance. The pAAthetic meal selections on a long-haul FC flight may influence my decision as to my routing that I've posted about elsewhere.
ETA: just read the article at VFTW. The substitution in my case was in the opposite direction, from short rib to fillet. (this was on domestic FC) I personally prefer the short rib, as I find it is much less likely to be overcooked.
ETA: just read the article at VFTW. The substitution in my case was in the opposite direction, from short rib to fillet. (this was on domestic FC) I personally prefer the short rib, as I find it is much less likely to be overcooked.
I handed it right back and ate 4 packets of biscoff instead.
Mar 22, 2019, 6:33 pm
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Just looking at U.S. airlines: Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant, Sun Country and (arguably and in my opinion) Southwest are all clearly more "bottom of the barrel" than AA or UA or DL. And if we want to go international the list gets much, much bigger. There's no rational, fact-based way to conclude that AA is the "bottom of the barrel." Just as there's no rational, fact-based way to conclude it's a world-leading service.
Go ahead, keep grinding your axe. Not sure what satisfaction you are looking for. But don't expect me to consider it a serious and meaningful contribution to this forum.
Mar 22, 2019, 6:36 pm
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What does that even mean? Hyperbolic criticism is no better than blind loyalty.
Just looking at U.S. airlines: Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant, Sun Country and (arguably and in my opinion) Southwest are all clearly more "bottom of the barrel" than AA or UA or DL. And if we want to go international the list gets much, much bigger. There's no rational, fact-based way to conclude that AA is the "bottom of the barrel." Just as there's no rational, fact-based way to conclude it's a world-leading service.
Go ahead, keep grinding your axe. Not sure what satisfaction you are looking for. But don't expect me to consider it a serious and meaningful contribution to this forum.
Just looking at U.S. airlines: Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant, Sun Country and (arguably and in my opinion) Southwest are all clearly more "bottom of the barrel" than AA or UA or DL. And if we want to go international the list gets much, much bigger. There's no rational, fact-based way to conclude that AA is the "bottom of the barrel." Just as there's no rational, fact-based way to conclude it's a world-leading service.
Go ahead, keep grinding your axe. Not sure what satisfaction you are looking for. But don't expect me to consider it a serious and meaningful contribution to this forum.
Mar 22, 2019, 6:39 pm
#24
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What does that even mean? Hyperbolic criticism is no better than blind loyalty.
Just looking at U.S. airlines: Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant, Sun Country and (arguably and in my opinion) Southwest are all clearly more "bottom of the barrel" than AA or UA or DL. And if we want to go international the list gets much, much bigger. There's no rational, fact-based way to conclude that AA is the "bottom of the barrel." Just as there's no rational, fact-based way to conclude it's a world-leading service.
Go ahead, keep grinding your axe. Not sure what satisfaction you are looking for. But don't expect me to consider it a serious and meaningful contribution to this forum.
Just looking at U.S. airlines: Spirit, Frontier, Allegiant, Sun Country and (arguably and in my opinion) Southwest are all clearly more "bottom of the barrel" than AA or UA or DL. And if we want to go international the list gets much, much bigger. There's no rational, fact-based way to conclude that AA is the "bottom of the barrel." Just as there's no rational, fact-based way to conclude it's a world-leading service.
Go ahead, keep grinding your axe. Not sure what satisfaction you are looking for. But don't expect me to consider it a serious and meaningful contribution to this forum.
it's like on the Marriott forum. Some posters just complain in every post. Are there issues -yes. Is repeating the same whinging helpful - absolutely not.
Mar 22, 2019, 6:41 pm
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I just flew to PVG on the 789 in a BE Aerospace seat that pastes anything UA offers (save for 25 planes which have a comparable product). This is important to me more than champagne glasses. It may not be for you, but unilaterally declaring AA "the worst" is hyperbole.
Mar 22, 2019, 6:59 pm
#26
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Breakfast in a bag...cant wait! While we are at it lets bring back the Bistro Bag.
All in all I am most offended by the downsizing of the tray liners.
All in all I am most offended by the downsizing of the tray liners.
Mar 22, 2019, 7:02 pm
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Just this week I had a "short rib" reserved and instead got the fillet. So it seems they are actually making the substitutions. I've had the Zoe's charcuterie plate a few times now, and it's pretty good. I quite like the hummus (in contrast with the hummus they have on some shortish flights, which I found nasty, for whatever reason). This is a good option now if you can reserve in advance. The pAAthetic meal selections on a long-haul FC flight may influence my decision as to my routing that I've posted about elsewhere.
ETA: just read the article at VFTW. The substitution in my case was in the opposite direction, from short rib to fillet. (this was on domestic FC) I personally prefer the short rib, as I find it is much less likely to be overcooked.
ETA: just read the article at VFTW. The substitution in my case was in the opposite direction, from short rib to fillet. (this was on domestic FC) I personally prefer the short rib, as I find it is much less likely to be overcooked.
Not an excuse for cheaping out, mind you, but sometimes edible trumps fancy.
Mar 22, 2019, 7:06 pm
#28
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Yeah, steak on a plane even on an airline that spends $$$ is still a risky proposition that can yield shoe leather. Fatty cuts and dishes that are cooked using braises are way more likely to come out edible.
Not an excuse for cheaping out, mind you, but sometimes edible trumps fancy.
Not an excuse for cheaping out, mind you, but sometimes edible trumps fancy.
Mar 22, 2019, 7:09 pm
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Are there a lot of businesses which don't try to cut costs where possible? If reductions in catering don't translate into revenue reduction, why would one expect them not to make the cuts?
