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Requiring connecting itineraries like this (two PNR's for 2 nonstops) has another 'enhancement' effect:
Change fees and other fees are also potentially increased. |
Originally Posted by aubreyfromwheaton
(Post 30922623)
Requiring connecting itineraries like this (two PNR's for 2 nonstops) has another 'enhancement' effect:
Change fees and other fees are also potentially increased. If the multi-city award-booking engine will not let you reserve the two nonstops, put the two nonstops on hold on separate PNRs, call AA to combine them, and then go back to aa.com to purchase the award itinerary on a single ticket. |
Originally Posted by guv1976
(Post 30923750)
When redeeming AAdvantage miles, note that a single ticket can hold multiple awards. ;)
If the multi-city award-booking engine will not let you reserve the two nonstops, put the two nonstops on hold on separate PNRs, call AA to combine them, and then go back to aa.com to purchase the award itinerary on a single ticket. |
Originally Posted by saltytheseagull
(Post 30923863)
This used to work but have you done this recently? I tried last week and was told that the agents are tied to the computer.
Are you saying that you placed two flights on separate holds, and you then called AA and requested that the two flights be be put on a single ticket as two awards (at the higher mileage required for two awards)? |
Originally Posted by guv1976
(Post 30923963)
I have not tried this lately.
Are you saying that you placed two flights on separate holds, and you then called AA and requested that the two flights be be put on a single ticket as two awards (at the higher mileage required for two awards)? |
Originally Posted by Dave Noble
(Post 30924617)
If there is no availability due to married segment availability being different to standalone availability, then I would not expect the agent to be able to combine into a through itinerary with 2 awarss. Once comboned, then the availabioity wiuld be based on the through availability
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Originally Posted by guv1976
(Post 30924809)
Why? Since one ticket can contain multiple separate awards, why would putting two separate one-way awards on a single ticket require through-award availability?
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Originally Posted by beachfan
(Post 30921297)
I wasn't aware American announced married segments publicly at all. Can you point out the announcement please?
Whether making AAA-CCC via BBB unavailable when AAA-BBB and BBB-CCC are both available is married segment availability or some other term strikes me as strictly a matter of semantics. Everyone agrees both on the practical effects and when it started; the only disagreement is whether the same term applies to both concepts. Rather silly to go on like this. |
Originally Posted by guv1976
(Post 30924809)
Why? Since one ticket can contain multiple separate awards, why would putting two separate one-way awards on a single ticket require through-award availability?
I’m purely guessing here. |
Originally Posted by guv1976
(Post 30924809)
Why? Since one ticket can contain multiple separate awards, why would putting two separate one-way awards on a single ticket require through-award availability?
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Originally Posted by saltytheseagull
(Post 30923863)
This used to work but have you done this recently? I tried last week and was told that the agents are tied to the computer.
My method was to complain about the error on the old booking tool which was generated when trying to choose my preferred routing via manually selecting my two legs in the multiple-city booking option. A-C was showing 57.5K in new booking tool (didn't appear at all in old booking tool), A-B was 12.5K in old booking tool and B-C was 30K in old booking tool. So it should have priced 30K, if not for the "new" married surcharge/ restriction. I could get old booking tool to show 42.5K all the way to the last page via multi-city and then it would error out. https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...l#post30909612 |
So partners like BA can't put the 2 flights on the same itinerary either? They can't in my experience - they can book the flights individually, which is often cheaper than doing it with AA due to Avios pricing structure, but you have to pay twice the taxes and more importantly your connection isn't protected. I ran into this on SAT-CLT-LGA. They are charging exorbitant 50k AAnytime award for the whole trip when there is sAAver space on each leg.
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What do you mean by "connection isn't protected?" When I spoke to the AA agent and eventually got mine combined and repriced, he said two separate bookings is no big deal and that they would connect and through-bag check on check-in.
FWIW on the itinerary I was looking at, you are correct, BA showed the same limitation on A-C as AA did, even though A-B and B-C were open in the appropriate fare class. |
Originally Posted by PGHflyer
(Post 30927129)
What do you mean by "connection isn't protected?" When I spoke to the AA agent and eventually got mine combined and repriced, he said two separate bookings is no big deal and that they would connect and through-bag check on check-in.
FWIW on the itinerary I was looking at, you are correct, BA showed the same limitation on A-C as AA did, even though A-B and B-C were open in the appropriate fare class. I was looking at SAT-CLT-LGA with only a 39 minute connection in CLT. Using Avios, I could book the segments separately but not together on the same itinerary. Of course, it's the same price with Avios, but I'm nervous to keep them separate, even without baggage. |
Originally Posted by wiivile
(Post 30927148)
Not sure why AA would care if you miss your connection if you have 2 separate bookings, but I'm not up to speed on their policies.
I was looking at SAT-CLT-LGA with only a 39 minute connection in CLT. Using Avios, I could book the segments separately but not together on the same itinerary. Of course, it's the same price with Avios, but I'm nervous to keep them separate, even without baggage. You could try calling a BAEC Service Center to see if an agent can place both AA flights on a single ticket. You might or might not be able to get the telephone-ticketing service fee waived, but you should be able to avoid the second $5.60 September 11 security fee if both flights are on a single ticket. |
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