AA to expand to Africa and India?
Mar 8, 2019, 5:02 am
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AA to expand to Africa and India?
https://skift.com/2019/03/07/america...aul-expansion/
Looks like next year when they get some more 787s. Wonder where in Africa, especially after their One World partnership with Royal Air Morocco.
Looks like next year when they get some more 787s. Wonder where in Africa, especially after their One World partnership with Royal Air Morocco.
Mar 8, 2019, 6:53 am
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As more 787's come on line, others will be retired like the 23 767-300's and 9 A330-300's. Granted, those older aircraft don't have the range for US - Asia/Africa, but if they put 2 787's on a long haul route, and they are phasing out 32 other wide bodies, what routes will suffer?
Mar 8, 2019, 7:37 am
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Agreeed that Africa/India speculation is silly but AA doesn't want to deal with its issue with the Israeli government (I think something about pensions dating back to TWA days) therefore wouldn't call TLV low hanging fruit at this time.
Mar 8, 2019, 7:44 am
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As more 787's come on line, others will be retired like the 23 767-300's and 9 A330-300's. Granted, those older aircraft don't have the range for US - Asia/Africa, but if they put 2 787's on a long haul route, and they are phasing out 32 other wide bodies, what routes will suffer?
Mar 8, 2019, 8:24 am
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Mar 8, 2019, 8:34 am
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AA was flying to Israel after the merger.
Mar 8, 2019, 8:39 am
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Mar 8, 2019, 8:39 am
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Parker said PHL-TLV was losing money for years. NYC-TLV has more competition, so I'm not seeing that as a low hanging fruit for them since they've tried it already.
Mar 8, 2019, 9:01 am
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Be sure to keep the timing in mind. AA pulled PHL-TLV and had -no- competition on the route, then other carriers subsequently added NYC-TLV flights and seem content to hold those flights or even add more flights.
Mar 8, 2019, 9:42 am
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As more 787's come on line, others will be retired like the 23 767-300's and 9 A330-300's. Granted, those older aircraft don't have the range for US - Asia/Africa, but if they put 2 787's on a long haul route, and they are phasing out 32 other wide bodies, what routes will suffer?
Not to mention “AA expansion into Africa” includes RAM operated AA marketed.
Mar 8, 2019, 10:39 am
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It was a whopping 60M NIS, or $16.5M USD at today's exchange rate.
That's not insignificant money, but also isn't much when considering launching a route to a major destination like TLV.
So, no, as JonNYC said... this is not an issue.
Mar 8, 2019, 10:46 am
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Mar 8, 2019, 10:47 am
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No, they canceled it after they received the single operating certificate on 8 April 2015. But they did announce the cancelation a few months after this.
Last edited by econometrics; Mar 8, 2019 at 10:49 am Reason: Corrected