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Nuhusky Mar 5, 19 6:28 am

AA & Hyatt announce partnership 2019
 
Aa and Hyatt have partnered for reciprocal earning

https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...rican-Airlines

Earn 1 aa mile for every $ spent at hyatt and 1 hyatt point for every $ spent on AA

key members get automatic globalist status

for other aa elites there will be Hyatt status challenges to be announced

*edit one mile at a time write up
https://onemileatatime.com/american-...m=BoardingArea

golfingboy Mar 5, 19 8:13 am

Meh...

Not good enough to make me want to do business with Hyatt.

platbrownguy Mar 5, 19 8:23 am

Sounds more or less identical to the old Delta SPG Crossover rewards

Will benefit me as a Hyatt person (perhaps an extra 10k AA & 20k Hyatt points a year), but I'm not jazzed about 12000 new Globalists in the free (Hyatt) upgrade pool. Not worried about the impact of the free AA status/challenges on AA upgrades (shouldn't really be any).

canyonleo Mar 5, 19 8:55 am


Originally Posted by platbrownguy (Post 30850516)
Sounds more or less identical to the old Delta SPG Crossover rewards

Will benefit me as a Hyatt person (perhaps an extra 10k AA & 20k Hyatt points a year), but I'm not jazzed about 12000 new Globalists in the free (Hyatt) upgrade pool. Not worried about the impact of the free AA status/challenges on AA upgrades (shouldn't really be any).


I didn't do the math, do you really expect 1200 new Diamonds... or for them too it's "a few extra miles/points" but not enough to get to EXP/Diamond?

platbrownguy Mar 5, 19 9:14 am


Originally Posted by canyonleo (Post 30850627)
I didn't do the math, do you really expect 1200 new Diamonds... or for them too it's "a few extra miles/points" but not enough to get to EXP/Diamond?

What math. There are approx. 12000 CK members. All CKs get free Globalist. 12000 times 1 is 12000. That's 12000 more Globalists in the pool competing for Suite upgrades, eating in the lounges, etc.

canyonleo Mar 5, 19 9:17 am


Originally Posted by platbrownguy (Post 30850707)
What math. There are approx. 12000 CK members. All CKs get free Globalist. 12000 times 1 is 12000. That's 12000 more Globalists in the pool competing for Suite upgrades, eating in the lounges, etc.


I'll challenge that math/logic.


How many of 1200 CKs are already Diamonds?


How many of 1200 CKs make travel choices unrelated to perks/incentives (e.g. stay at closest or cheapest option all the time) and won't shift any incremental business to Hyatt?


How many of 1200 CKs getting Diamond won't use it (e.g. already 100% Marriott loyal, or Four Seasons, etc.)?


Etc...

AA100k Mar 5, 19 9:24 am


Originally Posted by platbrownguy (Post 30850707)
What math. There are approx. 12000 CK members. All CKs get free Globalist. 12000 times 1 is 12000. That's 12000 more Globalists in the pool competing for Suite upgrades, eating in the lounges, etc.

That calculation assumes that none of those CKs are currently Globalists and that of the ones who aren’t, will all start using Hyatt (more) now.

retirementdreams Mar 5, 19 9:24 am

There is a bit of difference between 1,200 and 12,000.

dvs7310 Mar 5, 19 10:49 am

Regardless of 1,200 or 12,000, this is likely to have quite a small impact on current Hyatt Globalists. When Marriott handed out Gold to all United Gold and above members, relatively few shifted stays to Marriott, and there are significantly many more United Premier Gold, Platinum, 1K, and GS than AA CKs. You should be more concerned that many the people who actually did use the Marriott benefit before are now shifting to Hyatt and Hilton since the new Marriott Gold is a useless status.

Phasers Mar 5, 19 10:58 am

Well, seeing as how I'm not too happy with Marriott Boncrap, then maybe I will try Hyatt. See what status I get as EXP.

oopsz Mar 5, 19 10:59 am

Great for me, as I just jumped from Marriott to Hyatt as my primary program.

AANYC1981 Mar 5, 19 11:00 am

I actually love Hyatt’s....,particularly Andaz.

bonzaiflyer Mar 5, 19 12:57 pm

Service
 
Since it's just a partnership for points/miles, we won't have to worry about the service levels at Hyatt being dragged down to AA's level.

platbrownguy Mar 5, 19 1:09 pm


Originally Posted by canyonleo (Post 30850718)
I'll challenge that math/logic.
How many of 1200 CKs are already Diamonds?
Etc...

LOL - why do you keep changing 12,000 to 1200?

Of course some CKs may already be Globalist. That's cool. One would imagine that most CKs spend plenty of nights in hotels. Which is reason to be less than jazzed about the ones who aren't Globalist getting it for free -- because they'll likely be accruing a quick 50-150k Hyatt points by doing nothing other than their normal AA flying (free week at the Park Hyatt Maldives, anyone?) and will have no reason not to try out their Globalist benefits (free suite upgrade at the Park Hyatt Seoul, anyone?) when they travel to a market with a Hyatt.

So I'll echo what MSPeconomist said in the sister thread over on the Hyatt board -- even one CK-freebie-globalist is too many if that's the reason I lose a suite upgrade.

canyonleo Mar 5, 19 1:18 pm

Small error on my part, ok, 12,000 (or 120,000). Many are already Diamonds, many won't ever stay at a Hyatt (other loyalties), many travel so much they won't vacation, many decide by convenience/cost and could care less about incentives. Put me in the camp that says us Diamonds won't see much difference on this.


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