HND / Haneda slots: AA prelim gets DFW, LAX routes Summer 2020 (update)
Apologies if this was already posted, but I didn't see it:
Newsroom - American Airlines to Apply for Additional Service at Tokyo?s Haneda Airport - American Airlines Group, Inc. Essentially, AA has applied for 4 daily flights to HND from the following airports at the following times: Route/Departure Time/Arrival Time/Aircraft DFW–HND 12:35 p.m. 3:55 p.m. 777-200 DFW–HND 3 p.m. 6:30 p.m. 777-200 LAS–HND 1:30 p.m. 5:25 p.m. 787-8 LAX–HND 12:40 a.m. 4:45 a.m. 787-8 LAS-HND is obviously the one that will get a lot of attention. Surely they've done their research and it shows a large number of Japanese pax connecting to Vegas. Looking at the current schedule it appears that the first DFW-HND is a replacement of a current DFW-NRT flights while the second, along with the LAX-HND, are additional flights. However, if this was explicitly confirmed in the press release I missed it. |
Sounds like the new LAX-HND would indeed be incremental. But those times and on a 787-8 instead of 77W? No thanks. I did not think LAX was going to be utilizing many 787-8s opposed to ORD, etc. Interesting for sure
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Originally Posted by dfw88
(Post 30806871)
Looking at the current schedule it appears that the first DFW-HND is a replacement of a current DFW-NRT flights while the second, along with the LAX-HND, are additional flights. However, if this was explicitly confirmed in the press release I missed it. American’s trans-Pacific gateways American currently operates one daily flight between LAX and HND, which began in 2016. An additional flight from LAX would provide American’s customers with even more options and a convenient schedule between Tokyo and the airline’s West Coast hub. |
For some, it will mean no reason to take the Friendly Limousine Bus NRT <—-> HND.
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I wonder with the LAX and LAS flights if they’ll also run domestic service between ORD as well, since it’s the 788 hub?
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Love to see the increase of flights to HND. Like to see either all 772's with retro J or 77W (I know, dream on) would be great. I wonder how this would impact oneworld's xONEx itinerary.
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LAS - HND is very interesting and, as alluded to above, I'd be inclined to agree that it's because of the large number of passengers connecting to / from Tokyo. The early LAS - LAX flight is usually very busy with passengers connecting to onward flights to Asia.
This would presumably be AA's first international flight from Las Vegas? |
Originally Posted by allset2travel
(Post 30807153)
Love to see the increase of flights to HND. Like to see either all 772's with retro J or 77W (I know, dream on) would be great. I wonder how this would impact oneworld's xONEx itinerary.
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I'd be interested to see the return flight schedules HND-USA for these new proposed flights.
Presumably, if awarded, this:
Originally Posted by dfw88
(Post 30806871)
LAX–HND 12:40 a.m. 4:45 a.m. 787-8
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IMHO AA is very unlikely to secure 2nd LAX-HND frequency as UA applied for LAX-HND.
This really shows how weak AA is when it comes to Asia when comparing AA's proposed routes with UA and DL. I am of the opinion AA should have tried to bid for either ORD-HND or PHL-HND as opposed to bidding for 2 DFW frequencies or LAS. I think UA/DL will get the lion's share of the slots with AA and HA getting 1-2 each. |
Originally Posted by bse118
(Post 30807368)
I'd be interested to see the return flight schedules HND-USA for these new proposed flights.
Presumably, if awarded, this: Would result in a morning departure HND-LAX, which I would be quite happy to have available as an option. AA227 DFW-HND 12:35-17:15 777 AA228 HND-DFW 19:25-16:15 777 AA597 DFW-HND 15:00-19:40 777 AA598 HND-DFW 21:55-18:35 777 AA171 LAX-HND 2355-0445 788 AA172 HND-LAX 1345-0635 788 AA776 LAS-HND 1320-1825 788 AA777 HND-LAS 1730-1045 788 |
The 2155 HND departure flights and 0445 HND arrivals flights are great for connections in Asia with JAL. Quite a lot of JAL routes to prime destinations in Asia leaves from HND (TSA, HKG, CAN, PEK, SHA, GMP) in the morning and comes back in the evening.
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I'm surprised these are the applications AA is filing. I'd be surprised if the DoT would allow a single carrier to hold two of these slot pairs from the same U.S. airport. I also wonder why they didn't apply for ORD-HND.
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Originally Posted by Djokison
(Post 30807492)
Mid day departure to LAX. AA171 LAX-HND 2355-0445 788 AA172 HND-LAX 1345-0635 788 AA776 LAS-HND 1320-1825 788 AA777 HND-LAS 1730-1045 788 LAX - HND - LAS - HND (overnight) - LAX? |
Originally Posted by chongcao
(Post 30808396)
So the aircraft utilisation could be:
LAX - HND - LAS - HND (overnight) - LAX? |
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