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AA has announced the first 196 seat A321-253NX / A321neo (new engine option), N400AN, manufacturer’s temporary registration D-AVYQ, arrived at PIT 1 February 2019 and enters service April, 2019. Link

Airbus A321neo / 32Q threads (as of 12 March 2019)

AA Airbus A321neo, c/o International Flight Network

There is an existing order of 100 A321neo, IATA designation 32Q, with the first delivery in February 2019. However, American Airlines has reached an agreement with Airbus Industries to defer twenty-two A321neo that were previously scheduled for delivery in 2019, 2020, and 2021 to at least 2024, citing high fuel prices and a weak revenue environment for the move.

The AA A321neo are being delivered with CFM International LEAP-1A engine and Sharklets wingtip devices), giving the aircraft 4,000 nautical miles (7,408 km) range and ETOPS 180 certification. In this “Cabin Flex” NX model fuselage doors 2L and R are deleted.

Seating is 20F, 176Y - 47 MCE seats (F20, Y/MCE47, Y129). The new larger AirSpace XL space overhead bins are used and mood lighting also. A/C + USB power is provided to all seats. IFE is served to your device (free) from an onboard WiFi server. ViaSat Ka band WiFi (fee) is standard.

See illustrations in the first few posts in this thread.

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JonNYC: MCE is row 8-11, 17 (overwing exit), 27 (exit row, 5 seats in row,) 18-21 (D,E,F)

F will match the LUS 321 36” pitch, using the same Rockwell Collins MiQ seat used in the 737 MAX 8 and the Oasis refit First/Business cabin (and AA widebody Premium Economy). These MiQ have no footrest.

MCE and Y are reduced to 737 MAX standards (MCE 33”, Y 30”). The seat is the same Rockwell Collins Meridian used in the 737 MAX 8 and “Project Oasis” conversion. The slightly greater diameter of the A320 family fuselage allows a slightly wider seat.

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American outlines A321neo network in 2Q19
By Jim Liu, Routes Online link
Posted 23 December 2018 13:50

American Airlines during the weekend of 23DEC18’s schedule update filed planned Airbus A321neo routes, under aircraft code 32Q. Planned A321neo service is scheduled for the second quarter of 2019, with configuration of F20 Y176.

LAX – MCO 02APR19 – 02MAY19 1 daily (AA2361/219)

PHX – ANC 06JUN19 – 19AUG19 1 daily (AA1413/1372)

PHX – LAX 02APR19 – 02MAY19 1 daily (AA820/1895)

PHX – MCO 02APR19 – 02MAY19 1 daily (AA682/1022; Except 21APR19)

Eventually the A321neo is to replace all Hawaii service A321H and 757 aircraft, and deploy on longer non-JFK-LAX or JFK-SFO routes (which are served by the three class A321T).

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According to David Seymour, American’s Senior Vice President of Integrated Operations, when they take the A321neo starting in January “that will actually serve as the platform to get certification for our refurbishment and standardization of the 321s... so we can go common configuration.” That effort will start in February.

Currently, though both will be refitted to 190 seats under Project Oasis:

LAA “32B”: F16 (38” pitch), Y165 including 38 MCE (181 total seat count)

LUS A321: F16 (36” pitch), Y171 including 18 MCE (187 total seat count)

(Note: Delta A321 has 192 seats.)

Link to the archived previous thread discussing the A321neo prior to arrival.

AA just received first Airbus A321neo / A321-253NX / 32Q 1 Feb 2019

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Feb 2, 2019, 12:39 pm

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Originally Posted by DataPlumber

Space, power, weight, maintenance, obsolescence. Makes sense to me why most carriers ditching them.

Most carriers are not ditching built in IFE. Yes BYOD is cheaper, which is why AA is moving in that direction.

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Feb 2, 2019, 12:54 pm

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Highlighting why I just don’t get airbus. They make a poor man’s aircraft. They design stuff wings which lead to poorer customer experience in less than ideal flying conditions and the fact that a plane designed more than 40 years ago that is similar size out performs the range on something that is supposedly up to date and fuel efficient is pathetic.

Because Airbus wasn't trying to build a drop-in 757 replacement from the start with the 321? It was just a stretch of the 320, and the 757's range and runway performance weren't intended targets since it was just a 737 competitor. New engines gave it longer legs that let it start to edge into territory that use be be only the 757's purvey, and guess what, it is more efficient. I have no idea where you're getting your statistics, but the 321neo has almost as much range as a wingleted 757-200 (within a couple hundred nautical miles, from what I can gather) while carrying almost 2800 fewer gallons of fuel.

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Originally Posted by arc727

I think this has been discussed before, but does the A321-neo have the range to fly the PHL-Europe routes AA currently uses the 757-200 on? I wonder if the neo will be the type that replaces all 757 aircraft, and we may eventually see an international configuration on the neo?

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Originally Posted by gateH15

if you look at the screenshots in the first post it definitely has a range to fly to Western Europe. Probably with a stop in Gamder/Goose Bay during winter month westbound.

The A321LR will have enough fuel capacity to make the winter fuel stops unnecessary, but as far as I'm aware AA doesn't have any options for those.

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Feb 2, 2019, 4:35 pm

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Originally Posted by DataPlumber

In layman’s terms, let’s just say it’s “magic.”

I thought "magic" was a technical term.

Feb 2, 2019, 5:29 pm

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Originally Posted by gateH15

I’ll take high speed WiFi and Netflix streaming over AA IFE screens. The only thing I will miss is the airshow. I don’t think you can stream that on your phone from AA app unfortunately.
Delta also think it’s ok to fly Boeing 717 and MD-80 and not planning to retire it anytime soon. I’ll take OASIS 738Max or 32Q over those ancient planes.

I don't know what AA will make available on its IFE, but there is no reason at all why a moving map cannot be offered. Other airlines, I knowm that use wifi IFE offer a moving map

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Feb 3, 2019, 6:43 am

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Originally Posted by gateH15

if you look at the screenshots in the first post it definitely has a range to fly to Western Europe. Probably with a stop in Gamder/Goose Bay during winter month westbound.

The range shown in the wiki above is for the LR, AA’s A321NEO has less range, as it’s not the LR. (Though they could presumably change part of their order to LR fairly easily.)

Feb 3, 2019, 6:54 am

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As was mentioned, the OP's range maps showed the LR version. As of 09/18, AA didn't have that version on order. Then there's the matter of headwinds, reserves, and diversion points making useful, reliable range much less than claimed.

https://centreforaviation.com/analys...changer-439182

I believe it's understood that even 321NeoLRs have a bit less range than 757-200s. Were AA to take LRs, DUB/MAN/LHR-PHL could probably be reliable into winter winds. CDG/FRA/ZRH could be seeing Gander tech stops - unless AA went for extensive seat blocking or a very premium config with low passenger counts.

Feb 3, 2019, 8:11 am

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Apologies if this has already been covered, but if the NEO doesn't have a 2nd door in the front of coach, how can they standardize the seating between the regular and neo 321?

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Feb 3, 2019, 10:06 am

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Originally Posted by morrisunc

Apologies if this has already been covered, but if the NEO doesn't have a 2nd door in the front of coach, how can they standardize the seating between the regular and neo 321?

I don't think the seating is going to be standardized (which makes absolutely no sense to me after all of AA's talk about "harmonization" and "oasis"). But according to this post from another thread, JonNYC states the neo will have 196 seats but the non-neo "Oasis" configuration will only have 190.

Feb 3, 2019, 11:34 am

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Originally Posted by arc727

...But according to this post from another thread, JonNYC states the neo will have 196 seats but the non-neo "Oasis" configuration will only have 190.

Correct. There was some confusion about this early on.

And, couple more pics:

Feb 3, 2019, 3:39 pm

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Apologies if this has already been covered, but if the NEO doesn't have a 2nd door in the front of coach, how can they standardize the seating between the regular and neo 321?

They can’t.

The seats will be standardized, the lavs if they use the ultra slim ones, etc. but the seat numeration and location won’t be identical in the LAA A321-231, LUS A321-211 refitted to Oasis standards and the A321-253NX.

See the seat chart / cabin diagram above and charts for the others once they’re posted.

Feb 3, 2019, 3:46 pm

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Provided the first row of coach is row 6, a lot of issues of bulkhead row storage are now gone. I assume row 5 coach passengers can use storage that exists under row 5 of F class (as is done on the E175s)?

Feb 3, 2019, 9:12 pm

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Originally Posted by JonNYC

Correct. There was some confusion about this early on.

I forgot. Did you mention that it's confirmed the refurbished 321s will go to 20F and not remain at 16?

Also, it looks like AA chose to plug the second overwing emergency exits, like BA and NZ did.

Feb 3, 2019, 9:21 pm

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I forgot. Did you mention that it's confirmed the refurbished 321s will go to 20F and not remain at 16?

Yes, I reported that that many months ago (and for sure several doubted it at the time.)

Feb 4, 2019, 5:43 am

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Another flying cattle car takes to the air.

The race to the bottom continues. Not sure where we’re going, but making record time.

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Feb 4, 2019, 7:45 am

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Is there any word on when the LUS A321s will start getting a refurb? I thought it was supposed to start this month, but I haven't seen anything. The Pittsburgh Biz Journal article you shared on Twitter seemed to indicate that there are two LUS A321s in service there, but I think those are just C checks.

Editing, this was in reply to JonNYC

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