American Airlines 2019-2021 Fleet Plan Update (24 Jan 2019)
Jan 24, 2019, 2:08 pm
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Looks like flying domestic, A321 or 737 will be the routine and they are reconfiguring to tighter pitch aren't they? 
Whatever reason I thought there going to be a lot more A321neo and 737MAX, but still many A321 and 737 are relatively new that no plan to get rid of A321 and 737, hence they do not need that many A321neo and 737MAX? Wonder if they will announce the last revenue flight of MD80 and have some event for that,
Whatever reason I thought there going to be a lot more A321neo and 737MAX, but still many A321 and 737 are relatively new that no plan to get rid of A321 and 737, hence they do not need that many A321neo and 737MAX? Wonder if they will announce the last revenue flight of MD80 and have some event for that,
Jan 24, 2019, 3:15 pm
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Last I saw, the MD80s will be gone by the end of August, specifically. And regarding the 333, I believe those will be gone once the new 789s start arriving in 2023.
Yes, and the PHX-Hawaii routes will be replaced with the A321-neo.
Yes, and the PHX-Hawaii routes will be replaced with the A321-neo.
Jan 24, 2019, 4:26 pm
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That is correct! It will replaced 757 aircraft. They will deployed A321neo from PHX-Hawaii flights.
How about orders more 77W aircraft? Those passengers who loves 77W aircraft. Can they orders 10 more 77W aircraft? Will they ever consider it?
How about orders more 77W aircraft? Those passengers who loves 77W aircraft. Can they orders 10 more 77W aircraft? Will they ever consider it?
Jan 24, 2019, 4:45 pm
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I think the love might have been diminished a bit once they went 10 across in Y, and pretty much eliminated MCE. Now PE is better than the old MCE, but costs more obviously. F and J are hard to complain about for those lucky enough to fly in those cabins.
Jan 24, 2019, 5:28 pm
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The 788s (226 seats) are largely earmarked to replace the retiring 767s (209 seats).
Likely no more 77W orders given that production of the 777-300 is scheduled to ramp down quickly this year and next. At some point AA may order some 777X planes to replace some of the oldest 777-200s but that won't probably won't happen for a couple years.
In general AA is under a lot of pressure from investors not to grow capacity more than 1-3% a year and so they are unlikely to order larger widebody aircraft for anything other than replacement needs in the near term and most of their widebody fleet, save the 777-200s and the A333s have lots of useful life left in them
In general AA is under a lot of pressure from investors not to grow capacity more than 1-3% a year and so they are unlikely to order larger widebody aircraft for anything other than replacement needs in the near term and most of their widebody fleet, save the 777-200s and the A333s have lots of useful life left in them
Jan 24, 2019, 5:36 pm
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I am thinking that the last flight might be on the oldest MD-80 left (N501AA). It will be 30 years old at some point this year! It's certificate was issued on 10-31-1989, I wonder if that will be the day of the final flight!
Last edited by BillBurn; Jan 25, 2019 at 11:47 am Reason: corrected date typo
Jan 24, 2019, 5:36 pm
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The 788s (226 seats) are largely earmarked to replace the retiring 767s (209 seats).
Likely no more 77W orders given that production of the 777-300 is scheduled to ramp down quickly this year and next. At some point AA may order some 777X planes to replace some of the oldest 777-200s but that won't probably won't happen for a couple years.
In general AA is under a lot of pressure from investors not to grow capacity more than 1-3% a year and so they are unlikely to order larger widebody aircraft for anything other than replacement needs in the near term and most of their widebody fleet, save the 777-200s and the A333s have lots of useful life left in them
Likely no more 77W orders given that production of the 777-300 is scheduled to ramp down quickly this year and next. At some point AA may order some 777X planes to replace some of the oldest 777-200s but that won't probably won't happen for a couple years.
In general AA is under a lot of pressure from investors not to grow capacity more than 1-3% a year and so they are unlikely to order larger widebody aircraft for anything other than replacement needs in the near term and most of their widebody fleet, save the 777-200s and the A333s have lots of useful life left in them
I guess AA doesn't plan much growth. Only way to get more income is to raise prices.
Jan 24, 2019, 6:39 pm
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Back in April 2018, American already announced it was ordering more 788s and 789s. There would be an additional 22 788s, delivered from 2020-2021, which is what we see on the list. They would directly replace the 763s. Meanwhile, American also ordered 25 additional 789s that won't start delivery until 2023. These are meant to replace the A330-300s and some of the older 777-200s.
Here's the article from The Points Guy: https://thepointsguy.com/news/aa-con...-cancels-a350/
AA and Boeing have tentatively scheduled the first of these new orders to arrive in 2023. These aircraft will replace AA’s remaining A330-200 aircraft and some of its older Boeing 777-200 aircraft.
Currently, American Airlines 787-9 Dreamliners are arranged with 30 lie-flat business class seats, 21 premium economy seats and 234 economy seats. However, the first of the new 787-9 order won’t be delivered until 2023. So, AA’s seating arrangement might end up being different than what’s installed on its current fleet.
I know the article says the 789s would replace the A330-200, but I think it's supposed to be -300.
Here's the article from The Points Guy: https://thepointsguy.com/news/aa-con...-cancels-a350/
787-9 Dreamliner
American Airlines currently has 15 Boeing 787-9s in its fleet with another 7 on order before today’s announcement. This new order will add another 25 planes to AA’s 787-9 fleet, bringing the total to 47. As with the 787-8, this order makes AA the largest airline customer of the -9. Again, this AA order bests ANA, which currently has 44 of the same aircraft model.AA and Boeing have tentatively scheduled the first of these new orders to arrive in 2023. These aircraft will replace AA’s remaining A330-200 aircraft and some of its older Boeing 777-200 aircraft.
Currently, American Airlines 787-9 Dreamliners are arranged with 30 lie-flat business class seats, 21 premium economy seats and 234 economy seats. However, the first of the new 787-9 order won’t be delivered until 2023. So, AA’s seating arrangement might end up being different than what’s installed on its current fleet.
Jan 24, 2019, 8:28 pm
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Or maybe it will be on N984TW, the final MD-80 produced?
Jan 25, 2019, 12:21 am
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Jan 25, 2019, 10:31 am
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Wonder what the in-use to spare number is on the MD-80? Seems like every time through DFW, there are as many parked at the edge of the ramp as are up at the gates, plus a few more over south of term D (where term F would be). Always amazed to see 2-3 CRJ down by Term E that I guess Skywest keeps handy.
Jan 25, 2019, 11:43 am
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At the rate they were planning new EU city decisions, I think the A330-300 retirement may definitely need to be deferred. I can see them being re-purposed for South America where there is a need for high density and low premium service (but a need for lots of cargo).
Basically an updated version of the A-300 which used to fly frequently from Miami and JFK to South America.
Basically an updated version of the A-300 which used to fly frequently from Miami and JFK to South America.