Rumor: Changes coming to Aadvantage Program in March
#61
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Nope. I am not wasting any time thinking about a possible change that may or may not come at some unspecified time in the future. I will think about such a change when/if it is announced. In the meantime I will just go about my business as usual - which in the current moment is sweating out a Y-->J SWU request for a longhaul on this coming Monday to see if my track record of never missing an SWU request continues....
#62
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Is nobody yet bracing for a change in the upgrade award chart (incl SWUs) that truly limits upgrades to 1-cabin? So no more Y-to-J. I suppose thats not in the context of changes youll like per the OP, but its inevitable, no?
That said, if perhaps they concurrently allow complimentary/ sticker upgrades from Y to PE for elites, in-line with the domestic upgrade program, maybe thats a reasonable enough offset. And frankly, given PE pricing hasnt been that much terribly higher than Y, requiring PE to upgrade to J isnt really the end of the world.
That said, if perhaps they concurrently allow complimentary/ sticker upgrades from Y to PE for elites, in-line with the domestic upgrade program, maybe thats a reasonable enough offset. And frankly, given PE pricing hasnt been that much terribly higher than Y, requiring PE to upgrade to J isnt really the end of the world.
#63
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Like the reported "training" that began 9 months ago?
♦️RUMOR♦️: SWU Next Service Class Upgrade to go to Y -> W/PE -> J -> F
♦️RUMOR♦️: SWU Next Service Class Upgrade to go to Y -> W/PE -> J -> F
For those wondering, it's JDiver reporting a rumor of exactly our fears, and noting it's totally unverified. And also noting JonNYC disagrees.
#64
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So weird....now when I click the link that's in the quoted part of my own post, it works....but still, clicking the link in JonNYC's original post gives a 404 (b/c obvious double-pasting of URL). If it always worked for everybody else, my apologies for an unnecessary post.
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Nope. I am not wasting any time thinking about a possible change that may or may not come at some unspecified time in the future. I will think about such a change when/if it is announced. In the meantime I will just go about my business as usual - which in the current moment is sweating out a Y-->J SWU request for a longhaul on this coming Monday to see if my track record of never missing an SWU request continues....
No point worrying. That said, I'm not holding onto SWUs and miles indefinitely with the expectation that they appreciate. Enjoy it while it is there.
#66
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My view: AA already "fixed" any internal issue with SWU Y-J by making them hard to confirm until the very last second. Getting rid of them would be a disaster for the program that targets the higher spenders. By making them basically-impossible to use in advance, they provide better value to AA by simply taking seats they couldn't sell.
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Nope. I am not wasting any time thinking about a possible change that may or may not come at some unspecified time in the future. I will think about such a change when/if it is announced. In the meantime I will just go about my business as usual - which in the current moment is sweating out a Y-->J SWU request for a longhaul on this coming Monday to see if my track record of never missing an SWU request continues....
Imagine if one planned their SWU usage etc around posts like this, last year?
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29687867-post103.html
AA Adds New Companion Upgrades Policy 5 May 2018
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29682223-post52.html
#68
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Point being it's entertaining to read some of these rumor threads. They don't give me (or anyone, really) any actionable info, so I don't change my behavior based on them.
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Anecdotally, a lot. Judging by how airlines who have had PE for a while (BA) have kept it and others like the US3 are adding it as fast as possible, it seems that the math is working as well.
Last week SIN-IAH was 1000 in Y, 1400 in W and 4500 in J one way. There wasn't a chance I was going to spend 4500 one way on J - I'm far too cheap for that. I booked PE and applies a SWU from NRT to DFW. PE on JL is excellent, I cleared to J on AA and I got the bonus EQMs. No brainer, IMO.
Last week SIN-IAH was 1000 in Y, 1400 in W and 4500 in J one way. There wasn't a chance I was going to spend 4500 one way on J - I'm far too cheap for that. I booked PE and applies a SWU from NRT to DFW. PE on JL is excellent, I cleared to J on AA and I got the bonus EQMs. No brainer, IMO.
eventually when PE-J upgrade requests take priority over Y-J upgrades, then the PE cabin can basically serve as a hidden copay AA can charge for using your SWU.
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They will probably make it the same as the current business, price business as the current first, and increase first
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#72
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I think the issue is not with the actual DFW-ICN PE portion, but rather the SFO-DFW segment as it is not PE and it reverts to Y. Unfortunately sometimes I think AA IT systems has problems handling this. Go figure!
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What will happen is that TATL economy awards will drop from 30k to 10/15/20k to match what BA charges now. The caveat? Good luck finding availability on a non-BA flight to avoid YQ. PE will be priced at 30k.
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Two more onto wishlist
- SWU can be used on any oneworld members
- upgrade award with miles extended to all oneworld members
- SWU can be used on any oneworld members
- upgrade award with miles extended to all oneworld members