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Old Jan 7, 2019, 10:04 pm
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For the current thread, please see here.

NOTE: AA uses Terminals 4 and 5, the remote “Eagle’s Nest” and some gates at TBIT


Link to Los Angeles World Airports' LAX Airport website

NOTE: LAX is always undergoing changes; be aware the information herein may change. See here for LAWA notices affecting passengers.

Link LAWA / LAX FAQ page.

Link to aa.com


Link to 14 Feb 2017 post with AA-AA Minimum Times Times

NOTE: The Admirals Club® lounge and Flagship Lounge in Terminal 4 at Los Angeles International (LAX) are under renovations.

Special notice

AA operate from multiple terminals at LAX. Check in at Terminal 5, east end (Gates 50-59, including Remote American Eagle terminal, gates 52A-J) or Terminal 4 (Gates 40-49, 110-159)
. (As of 31 Jan 2017)

NOTE: the 100s gates are at the Tom Bradley International Air Terminal (aka Terminal B), accessible to / from Terminal 4 by the airside connector if you are already airside and security cleared.


[AA T-6 ops moved to T-5; other airline positioning to occur 12, 14 and 16 May 2017[/B]


Check-in times as of March 2016 Link

In most locations, you must be checked in:

At least 45 minutes before scheduled departure, for flights within the United States

At least 60 minutes before scheduled departure, for flights to or from airports outside of the United States
. Some non-US require more.

If you are checking in with baggage to check at T-4, not T-5, and flying American Eagle from the remote "Eagle's Nest" 52A-J gates (31 Jan 2017 and after), you must check in 90 minutes prior to departure.

LAYOUT: LAX is like a letter "U" on its side, open end facing right. The Tom Bradley International Terminal is the bar of the "U" facing left, on the west side. Terminals 1, 2 and 3 on the north and 4 - 8 on the south. Entering the semicircular, counter-clockwise roadway serving the terminals, you will pass terminals 1, 2, 3, TBIT, 4, 5, 6, etc. There is quite a bit of construction going on and the airport roadways can get quite congested.

MCT: Though international to International or Domestic Minimum Connect Times (MCT) are listed as 2:00, arriving at the remote western 200 pads and gates (served by busses from the terminals), connecting between T4, T6, Remote Eagle terminal and TBIT, not to mention lengthy USCBP queues and the need to proceed landslide to connecting terminals and processing security may make 2:00 unrealistic at times. MCT Domestic to Domestic or International is often 0:40, but this may be unrealistic if connecting American Eagle remote terminal 52A-J and a domestic flight at TBIT, for example.

Operating terminals and gates

Terminal 4: AA primarily uses Terminal 4, Gates 40-49 but now also uses Terminal 5 (50-59, 52A-I remote Eagle gates and TBIT (110-159). Flagship Checkin, Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge are all in T-4.


Tom Bradley International Terminal ("100") gates 110-159 for domestic and international flights, with no particular flight assignment - check your gates information.

oneworld Business and Qantas First lounges in TBIT for qualified passengers. See LOUNGE DASHBOARD for further information - link.

Occasionally, the "200 gates" remote pads (bus from T-4) may be used. Terminal 4 and TBIT are connected airside by a new connector. Qualified travelers may use the TBIT oneworld Business or Qantas First lounges. See separate thread.

Terminal 5 AS OF Tue 31 Jan 2017: Legacy US flights operate from Terminal 5, gates 50 - 59. It is best to check in for American Eagle flights at T-5. Airside connection exists, as well as shuttles. Bus port at T-5 is at gate 52. American Eagle checked baggage is delivered to Terminal 5 baggage carousels; Eagle remote gates are now numbered 52A-J.


Terminal 6: Alaska Airlines flights operate from Terminal 6.

Legacy US flights operated from Terminal 6 until 31 Jan 2017; AA no longer operates out of Terminal 6.

American Eagle Remote Terminal "Eagle's Nest": Regional flights operate at a remote terminal served frequently by airside shuttle busses from bus gates 44 and 60. The remote American Eagle terminal gate numeration has changed: "May 16 2016 the remote gates at LAX formerly 44 A-J were renumbered to 60 A-J." There is a "junior" Admirals Club here. Preferred Eagle check in and baggage carousels are in T-5?

While you may check in at T-4 for American Eagle, those with baggage to check must do so no less than 90 minutes prior to departure. The preferred baggage check deadline is in place at T-5 for American Eagle.

Walking Interterminal - Landside

Note: You can walk airside between Terminal 4 and TBIT as of 25 Feb 2016. See LAX Terminal 4 - Tom Bradley Intl Terminal Secure Connector), and on to T-5 via a corridor (ground floor, by bus gate 44).

One can also walk landside between terminals on upper or lower walkway sidewalks just outside the roadway. Lower walkways are protected from the weather, upper walkways are not. Distances can be short (T-4 <-> TBIT) or long (20 minutes or less in all cases, and there are crosswalks and walkways serving north and south terminals. See north - south blue corridors in Ground Transport map, above; walkways parallel them.

For access to the Tom Bradley International Terminal ("TBIT") one may also proceed landslide and walk a short distance, or take the counter clockwise landside courtesy airport shuttle bus.

Originally Posted by QueenOfCoach
Here is a graphic I made from a Google Earth Streetview screenshot that shows how close T4 is to TBIT. It's a two-minute walk. One minute if you are fast.

Link to fullsize map


Airside - Shuttle Bus or Walking

Airside shuttle busses:

NO BUS T-4 <-> T-5 (faster to walk pedestrian tunnel)
T-4 <-> Remote Eagle terminal (most efficient and frequent)
T-5 <-> Remote Eagle terminal (more frequent than from / to T-4)

Terminals 4 and 5: A courtesy shuttle bus operates airside between Terminal 4, ex-gate 44 bus gate, and Terminal 6 gate 60-62 through Mon 30 Jan 2017 - afterwards, Terminal gate 52, every fifteen minutes between 05:00 and 23:00; ongoing boarding pass required. At other times one either take the airside corridor T-5 Tue 31 Jan and after <-> T-4 or exit landslide and walk or take the counter-clockwise landslide courtesy shuttle bus.

American Eagle Remote Terminal: A courtesy shuttle bus serves the American Eagle remote terminal from Terminal 5, gate 52. Note: American Eagle checked baggage is delivered to Terminal 5 baggage carousels. Another shuttle runs from Terminal 4, gate 44 bus gate. A boarding pass to Gate 52A-I is required. This is the sole way of reaching these gates (other than Five Star Service passengers, who are shuttled via the Tarmac in Cadillac SUVs).

Terminal 4 - TBIT: The new pedestrian airside connector opened 25 Feb 2015. Qantas and AA passengers departing the TBIT can check in at Terminal 4, process airside, use Admirals or Flagship lounges T-4 <-> TBIT shuttles apparently ended when the airside connector open 25 Feb 2016[/hl].

Walk Terminals 4 and 5: One can walk airside using the Terminal 4 - 5 - 6 connector.

Walk Terminal 4 - TBIT airside connector: An airside connector leading to TBIT is open effective 25 Feb 2016. See here (FT) for more.


Getting from terminal to terminal, concourse to concourse, landside

Landside courtesy airport shuttle bus
  • "A" line buses: Transports passengers between terminals. "A" route operates 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and runs every 10 minutes (counter clockwise)

  • "C" line buses: Transports passengers to and from Parking Lot C. Travelers can walk to the LAX City Bus Center from Lot C. "C" route operates 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and runs every 10 to 15 minutes.

  • "G" line busses: Transports passengers with a valid TAP card to and from the Metro Green Line Aviation Station. Service is aligned with the rail schedule. To view, please go to www.metro.net . Click here for Green line Boarding Procedures (PDF document). TAP card is not required when taking the G Bus from LAX to the Aviation Metro Station.

  • Use this link for a real time map display of shuttle bus locations and movements.

  • Rental car company busses: transport passengers between terminals and car rental facilities.

Ground Transportation stops / pickups at LAX

NOTE: Rental, hotel shuttle, Über, etc. stops are in front of each terminal on the arrivals / lower level at the island crossing the first lanes of traffic.


Security at LAX

Link to FlyerGuide information on LAX T-4 Security.

TSA PreCheck: Yes (Terminal 4 upstairs, east; Terminal 5?)

Priority Access line in a Terminal 4 is accessed from the escalator on the left end (looking at the counters) of the terminal (furthest from TBIT, closest to terminal 5), next to the Priority Access check-in area. Often there is an AA worker at the bottom of the escalator making sure only Priority Access passengers go up this escalator. The First, Business and Priority Access lines now have their own screening room far from the economy area. This private room has multiple screening lines and during peak periods additional lines are opened up.

Security for (TBIT) international arrivals proceeding to Terminal 4 is open as of February 2017. When exiting TBIT customs and baggage recheck area, turn right immediately after the exit and proceed down the hallway to the checkpoint. No Pre-Check.


Check-in and ticketing at LAX and check in times Link

Flagship Check-in: YES Marked exclusive T-4 Flagship check-in entrance 4:00 a.m. – 1:00 a.m.

Five Star Service: YES

Priority and Preferred Access: YES

Curbside check-in: Yes. Terminal 4 only, including for international destinations.

Minimum time for checking in and arriving at the gate at LAX

Minimum time to check baggage

To help us get your bag on the same flight with you, present your bag to an airline representative for check-in no later than the cutoff time.

For flights within and between the U.S., Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands:
  • Check bags at least 45 minutes prior to scheduled departure at LAX

For flights originating in airports outside the U.S. or flights departing the U.S. for an international destination:
  • Check bags at least 60 minutes prior to scheduled departure (90’ if checking for Eagle at T-4 instead of T-5)

Time to baggage delivery: expect 0:30 or more.


Ticket counter locations

Terminal 4: upon entry, Qantas to right; First and Priority Access to left; Main Cabin straight ahead.
Self-service check-in kiosks available.
Open Daily: 04:00 - 00:30 (4 am to midnight + 30)

Terminal 5, east side: OPEN Tue 31 Jan 2017
Open Daily: 4:30 AM - 12:30 AM

Terminal 6: CLOSE Tue 31 Jan 2017
Open Daily: 4:30 AM - 12:30 AM

If departing on American Eagle, suggested check-in at T-5 Tue 31 Jan 2017 or after.


Minimum and reasonable connection and check-in times at LAX

See 20 May 2016 ExpertFlyer MCT listings here:
Originally Posted by serfty
The MCT's for AA at LAX are a mess...
Q. What are minimum check-in time requirements at LAX?

AA requires arriving a minimum of 45 minutes prior to domestic departures if departing domestically (including Hawai'i, Puerto Rico and the U. S. Virgin Islands) if one has no baggage to check; 60 minutes if one must check baggage; and two hours prior to international departures.

Additionally, AA requires passengers be checked in at least 45 minutes prior to scheduled departure at LAX and "Arrive at the gate and be ready to board at least 15 minutes prior to domestic departure" and 30 minutes prior to international departure. Gates close to boarding 10 minutes prior to departure.

Q. What is the domestic to domestic or domestic to international Minimum Connection Time (MCT)?

The minimum connect time at LAX, domestic to domestic or international, is 0:40 minutes. International to domestic or international MCT is 2:00, but as mentioned previously, this may be insufficient. Note: MCT is generally not waived for international passengers arriving from USCBP pre-clearance airports.

See AA domestic to international MCT from ExpertFlyer Nov 2016 c/o Serfty here.

Q. If I am making an international to international connection, what is the process?

There is no international transit process in nearly all airports in the USA (DFW and MIA have a baggage exception for international to international). Arriving internationally, unless you have been pre-cleared, you must proceed through U. S. immigration (there are kiosks and a fast channel for Global Entry approved passengers), recover your baggage from the baggage carousel and proceed through U. S. Customs.

Upon exiting Customs at TBIT there is a bag drop facility; drop your checked baggage, exit to the landside arrivals area. Pre-cleared passengers arriving at TBIT will bypass USCBP (but most airlines will enforce international to domestic MCT nonetheless).

ALL arrivals are forced landside (you may pass back through security at the TBIT end of the T-4 - TBIT connector) and Terminal 4 is a short walk to your right, Terminal 6 farther; one can board courtesy airport "A" busses and be dropped off very shortly at T-4 or T-5.

NOTE: Whilst most international Arrivals process immigration and customs at TBIT, some arriving at T-4 may walk a long underground passage and process formalities at TBIT. Others may process at T-4, but if you arrive with bags those will be available at TBIT.

There is no Arrivals Loinge for AA or oneworld customers at LAX.

Q. What is AA policy if I have separate tickets and my incoming flight is delayed?

Protection for oneworld world customers travelling on separate bookings:
oneworld Global Support

Your oneworld connection is generally not officially protected, but the airline may help you and put you on the next available flight, and AA does generally protect oneworld connections at this time..

If your flights are on the same PNR:

Connecting between airlines at unfamiliar airports can be a stressful experience, especially if your flight is delayed. American Airlines recognizes the impact delays and missed connections can have on your plans and on your life. That is why we partnered with the other oneworld member airlines to form teams of connection experts: oneworld Global Support.

At select airports across the oneworld alliance network, teams are proactively monitoring connecting flights and, whenever possible, they will meet and assist you if your connection is in jeopardy. The oneworld Global Support teams will do their best to allow you to use dedicated fast track lanes through immigration or security to help you catch your next flight. Our teams will also do everything possible to transfer your baggage so that it makes it on time to your final destination.

If you miss your connecting flight, the oneworld Global Support team will provide you with updated travel information, a new boarding pass and, where applicable, assistance with overnight accommodations.

oneworld Global Support is currently available at Chicago O'Hare, Dallas/Fort Worth, London Heathrow, Los Angeles, Madrid-Barajas, Miami, New York JFK and Sydney. The service is offered at these airports whenever possible, subject to operational constraints.
See:
Q. Can I check my baggage through?

If you're connecting within the oneworld alliance or airlines with an interline agreement and your connection is under eleven hours, all segments on the same PNR, probably. If over that or with separate PNRs (even within oneworld) airlines without an interline agreements with AA or on separate tickets connecting with non-oneworld airlines, no.

See oneworld not requiring protection or interline baggage 1 Jun 2016; AA policy.

Q. Is there baggage storage at LAX?

No. Since 9/11 most USA airports have eliminated baggage storage, but you can use a baggage storage firm that will pick up, store and return your baggage. You do not have to pre-book, and they are open 24/7: http://www.laxluggagestorage.com. There are $5 pickup, $5 return and storage charges.


WiFi at LAX:

"Internet Access at Los Angeles LAX Airport. LAX Airport offers free internet access, with paid upgrades: Free Wi-Fi service for up to 44 minutes is available in most of the public areas of the Airport - provided by Advanced Wireless Group."

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Other resources
  • Link to AA FAQ: Will I make my connection?
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Old Apr 27, 2017, 6:03 pm
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DO NOT use the fancy new auto bag X-ray machines at LAX if you have a choice. Just had a dreadful experience with them. They were pulling off about every 4th bag for additional screening. They had a single TSA employee spending 5-10 minutes with each bag. My roller bag with nothing but clothes, shoes, an umbrella, pills and a toothbrush, got selected for additional screening and I waited over 20 minutes before they scanned something on the bin and said all it needed was to go through the XRay machine again. If I had put it in the regular X-ray, they would have probably just looked at it for another few seconds if anything.

They were also selecting about every 3rd person to go through the body scanner at the precheck line and they didn't have anyone doing scanning for about 10 minutes, so people just lined up waiting (including my 14 year old, after I was already through the metal detector). By the time someone showed up, no bags were going through because all the people waiting for the scanner had bags sitting on the end backing up to the X-ray.

This was not a busy time, it they keep this up, delays are going to be impressive.
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Old Apr 28, 2017, 11:47 am
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I just did a little bit of redundancy trimming in the Wiki. Which of these conflicting statements about airside shuttles is correct?

T-4 <-> Remote Eagle terminal (most efficient and frequent)
T-5 <-> Remote Eagle terminal (more frequent than from / to T-4)
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Old May 5, 2017, 11:08 pm
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Word is there will be a major terminal announcement in the coming weeks. A billion dollar plus renovation to T4 and T5. AA will takeover T5 for itself. I would guess the Eagle's Nest will also go bye bye.
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Old May 8, 2017, 1:13 pm
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Eagle's nest was going away as soon as LAWA give AA enough exclusive use gates. So the only way this happens if there is now a firm date on when AA can claim exclusive use of T5 and/or exclusive use of the TBIT gates that are now preferential use.
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Old May 8, 2017, 3:23 pm
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Originally Posted by bzcat
Eagle's nest was going away as soon as LAWA give AA enough exclusive use gates. So the only way this happens if there is now a firm date on when AA can claim exclusive use of T5 and/or exclusive use of the TBIT gates that are now preferential use.
Eagle's nest should close when the midfield terminal opens.
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Old May 9, 2017, 12:55 pm
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Originally Posted by TWA884
Eagle's nest should close when the midfield terminal opens.
Right... that was the agreement AA had with LAWA. Once MSC opens, LAWA will give AA exclusive use on more T5 and/or TBIT gates in exchange for closing down the Eagle's nest.

So I was just commenting on what MAH4546 posted, which seemed to imply that LAWA will give AA exclusive use of T5 before MSC is opened for business. I don't think that is logistically possible for LAWA to do. There is not enough gates right now.
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Old May 23, 2017, 10:28 am
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I read in LAX, airlines give an orange "Express Connection" for international arrivals with short connection. Is there a definition for "short connection"? For example, is 2.5 hours considered a short connection? Also, if next flight is booked separately, can the ground staff of arriving flight hands you this orange card if you show them the reservation of the next flight?
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Old Jun 5, 2017, 9:35 am
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Two questions please?

I have bookings that show LAX terminal 0 which does not exist. I am moving from AA23 from JFK to AA31 to HNL. Are they both T4?

AA23 arrives at 01:45 and AA31 departs at 08:25 I have decided against spending good money on a hotel when I will be wide awake on European time. As OW Emerald, are there any lounges open 24 hours or what is the most creative way of spending 6 hours overnight and early morning without leaving the airport?
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Old Jun 5, 2017, 9:56 am
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Originally Posted by HarryHolden68
I have bookings that show LAX terminal 0 which does not exist. I am moving from AA23 from JFK to AA31 to HNL. Are they both T4?
Probably, but there is no way of knowing for sure until the date of the flights. AA in addition to T4, AA also has four gates in T5 and in the morning hours has more than a few flights departing from TBIT. All three terminal are connected airside so there is no need to clear TSA security while connecting between them.

Originally Posted by HarryHolden68
AA23 arrives at 01:45 and AA31 departs at 08:25 I have decided against spending good money on a hotel when I will be wide awake on European time. As OW Emerald, are there any lounges open 24 hours or what is the most creative way of spending 6 hours overnight and early morning without leaving the airport?
SleepingInAirports has a guide to staying overnight at LAX. On more than one occasion while taking an early morning flight out of LAX, I have seen travelers who had obviously spent the night sleeping at the airport; once, one was seating next to me on a flight to ORD (he was in need of a shower - OK, TMI).

You may want to take a look at these threads in the Los Angeles forum:

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Old Jun 5, 2017, 4:11 pm
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The Qantas First Lounge at TBIT opens 6:30am (sharp!) - nice place for a quick shower and breakfast.

As an Emerald you have access.
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Old Jun 5, 2017, 4:35 pm
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According to the OneWorld website, you can also access the American Flagship Lounge as an Emerald. It's showing as being open at 4:30am. Of course, it's all a bit of a mess at the moment with construction so would recommend verifying first. https://www.oneworld.com/ffp/lounge-...eaccess/LAX/-1
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Old Jun 5, 2017, 6:27 pm
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Originally Posted by serfty
The Qantas First Lounge at TBIT opens 6:30am (sharp!) - nice place for a quick shower and breakfast.

As an Emerald you have access.
The Admirals Club opens at 4:00 am.
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Old Jun 5, 2017, 8:27 pm
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Well there's three lounges ... with only 2¼ hours to wait for the first one to open.
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Old Jun 5, 2017, 11:51 pm
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Thanks everyone.

TWA 884 - I will ensure I am showered =.
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Old Jun 6, 2017, 9:43 am
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I've been to LAX many times, but it was always my destination; never had to transfer.

In October we'll be traveling JFK - SYD via LAX. Flights 133 and 73 outbound and 72 and 2 back home.

For today and tomorrow at least, aa.com is showing all flights departing and arriving at T4, not TBIT. Is that typical? Do 72 and 73 ever use TBIT?

aa.com also shows 72 as arriving T4, but "baggage: TBIT."

So what are the procedures? I'm assuming that outbound, AA checks bags through all the way to Sydney and we don't have to retrieve them at LAX, yes? So it's just essentially a "regular" connection and we don't have to do another security run at LAX even though we're leaving the US from there, as long as we stay airside. Is that right?

On returning, what is the procedure? Do we clear immigration at T4 and then go to TBIT to get the checked bags? Or do we do all the necessaries at TBIT?

Once we get the bags, is there a bag drop at TBIT? And then we proceed back to T4 for the flight to JFK?
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