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NOTE: AA uses Terminals 4 and 5, the remote 摘agle痴 Nest and some gates at TBIT


Link to Los Angeles World Airports' LAX Airport website

NOTE: LAX is always undergoing changes; be aware the information herein may change. See here for LAWA notices affecting passengers.

Link LAWA / LAX FAQ page.

Link to aa.com


Link to 14 Feb 2017 post with AA-AA Minimum Times Times

NOTE: The Admirals Clubョ lounge and Flagship Lounge in Terminal 4 at Los Angeles International (LAX) are under renovations.

Special notice

AA operate from multiple terminals at LAX. Check in at Terminal 5, east end (Gates 50-59, including Remote American Eagle terminal, gates 52A-J) or Terminal 4 (Gates 40-49, 110-159)
. (As of 31 Jan 2017)

NOTE: the 100s gates are at the Tom Bradley International Air Terminal (aka Terminal B), accessible to / from Terminal 4 by the airside connector if you are already airside and security cleared.


[AA T-6 ops moved to T-5; other airline positioning to occur 12, 14 and 16 May 2017[/B]


Check-in times as of March 2016 Link

In most locations, you must be checked in:

At least 45 minutes before scheduled departure, for flights within the United States

At least 60 minutes before scheduled departure, for flights to or from airports outside of the United States
. Some non-US require more.

If you are checking in with baggage to check at T-4, not T-5, and flying American Eagle from the remote "Eagle's Nest" 52A-J gates (31 Jan 2017 and after), you must check in 90 minutes prior to departure.

LAYOUT: LAX is like a letter "U" on its side, open end facing right. The Tom Bradley International Terminal is the bar of the "U" facing left, on the west side. Terminals 1, 2 and 3 on the north and 4 - 8 on the south. Entering the semicircular, counter-clockwise roadway serving the terminals, you will pass terminals 1, 2, 3, TBIT, 4, 5, 6, etc. There is quite a bit of construction going on and the airport roadways can get quite congested.

MCT: Though international to International or Domestic Minimum Connect Times (MCT) are listed as 2:00, arriving at the remote western 200 pads and gates (served by busses from the terminals), connecting between T4, T6, Remote Eagle terminal and TBIT, not to mention lengthy USCBP queues and the need to proceed landslide to connecting terminals and processing security may make 2:00 unrealistic at times. MCT Domestic to Domestic or International is often 0:40, but this may be unrealistic if connecting American Eagle remote terminal 52A-J and a domestic flight at TBIT, for example.

Operating terminals and gates

Terminal 4: AA primarily uses Terminal 4, Gates 40-49 but now also uses Terminal 5 (50-59, 52A-I remote Eagle gates and TBIT (110-159). Flagship Checkin, Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge are all in T-4.


Tom Bradley International Terminal ("100") gates 110-159 for domestic and international flights, with no particular flight assignment - check your gates information.

oneworld Business and Qantas First lounges in TBIT for qualified passengers. See LOUNGE DASHBOARD for further information - link.

Occasionally, the "200 gates" remote pads (bus from T-4) may be used. Terminal 4 and TBIT are connected airside by a new connector. Qualified travelers may use the TBIT oneworld Business or Qantas First lounges. See separate thread.

Terminal 5 AS OF Tue 31 Jan 2017: Legacy US flights operate from Terminal 5, gates 50 - 59. It is best to check in for American Eagle flights at T-5. Airside connection exists, as well as shuttles. Bus port at T-5 is at gate 52. American Eagle checked baggage is delivered to Terminal 5 baggage carousels; Eagle remote gates are now numbered 52A-J.


Terminal 6: Alaska Airlines flights operate from Terminal 6.

Legacy US flights operated from Terminal 6 until 31 Jan 2017; AA no longer operates out of Terminal 6.

American Eagle Remote Terminal "Eagle's Nest": Regional flights operate at a remote terminal served frequently by airside shuttle busses from bus gates 44 and 60. The remote American Eagle terminal gate numeration has changed: "May 16 2016 the remote gates at LAX formerly 44 A-J were renumbered to 60 A-J." There is a "junior" Admirals Club here. Preferred Eagle check in and baggage carousels are in T-5?

While you may check in at T-4 for American Eagle, those with baggage to check must do so no less than 90 minutes prior to departure. The preferred baggage check deadline is in place at T-5 for American Eagle.

Walking Interterminal - Landside

Note: You can walk airside between Terminal 4 and TBIT as of 25 Feb 2016. See LAX Terminal 4 - Tom Bradley Intl Terminal Secure Connector), and on to T-5 via a corridor (ground floor, by bus gate 44).

One can also walk landside between terminals on upper or lower walkway sidewalks just outside the roadway. Lower walkways are protected from the weather, upper walkways are not. Distances can be short (T-4 <-> TBIT) or long (20 minutes or less in all cases, and there are crosswalks and walkways serving north and south terminals. See north - south blue corridors in Ground Transport map, above; walkways parallel them.

For access to the Tom Bradley International Terminal ("TBIT") one may also proceed landslide and walk a short distance, or take the counter clockwise landside courtesy airport shuttle bus.

Originally Posted by QueenOfCoach
Here is a graphic I made from a Google Earth Streetview screenshot that shows how close T4 is to TBIT. It's a two-minute walk. One minute if you are fast.

Link to fullsize map


Airside - Shuttle Bus or Walking

Airside shuttle busses:

NO BUS T-4 <-> T-5 (faster to walk pedestrian tunnel)
T-4 <-> Remote Eagle terminal (most efficient and frequent)
T-5 <-> Remote Eagle terminal (more frequent than from / to T-4)

Terminals 4 and 5: A courtesy shuttle bus operates airside between Terminal 4, ex-gate 44 bus gate, and Terminal 6 gate 60-62 through Mon 30 Jan 2017 - afterwards, Terminal gate 52, every fifteen minutes between 05:00 and 23:00; ongoing boarding pass required. At other times one either take the airside corridor T-5 Tue 31 Jan and after <-> T-4 or exit landslide and walk or take the counter-clockwise landslide courtesy shuttle bus.

American Eagle Remote Terminal: A courtesy shuttle bus serves the American Eagle remote terminal from Terminal 5, gate 52. Note: American Eagle checked baggage is delivered to Terminal 5 baggage carousels. Another shuttle runs from Terminal 4, gate 44 bus gate. A boarding pass to Gate 52A-I is required. This is the sole way of reaching these gates (other than Five Star Service passengers, who are shuttled via the Tarmac in Cadillac SUVs).

Terminal 4 - TBIT: The new pedestrian airside connector opened 25 Feb 2015. Qantas and AA passengers departing the TBIT can check in at Terminal 4, process airside, use Admirals or Flagship lounges T-4 <-> TBIT shuttles apparently ended when the airside connector open 25 Feb 2016[/hl].

Walk Terminals 4 and 5: One can walk airside using the Terminal 4 - 5 - 6 connector.

Walk Terminal 4 - TBIT airside connector: An airside connector leading to TBIT is open effective 25 Feb 2016. See here (FT) for more.


Getting from terminal to terminal, concourse to concourse, landside

Landside courtesy airport shuttle bus
  • "A" line buses: Transports passengers between terminals. "A" route operates 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and runs every 10 minutes (counter clockwise)

  • "C" line buses: Transports passengers to and from Parking Lot C. Travelers can walk to the LAX City Bus Center from Lot C. "C" route operates 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and runs every 10 to 15 minutes.

  • "G" line busses: Transports passengers with a valid TAP card to and from the Metro Green Line Aviation Station. Service is aligned with the rail schedule. To view, please go to www.metro.net . Click here for Green line Boarding Procedures (PDF document). TAP card is not required when taking the G Bus from LAX to the Aviation Metro Station.

  • Use this link for a real time map display of shuttle bus locations and movements.

  • Rental car company busses: transport passengers between terminals and car rental facilities.

Ground Transportation stops / pickups at LAX

NOTE: Rental, hotel shuttle, ワber, etc. stops are in front of each terminal on the arrivals / lower level at the island crossing the first lanes of traffic.


Security at LAX

Link to FlyerGuide information on LAX T-4 Security.

TSA PreCheck: Yes (Terminal 4 upstairs, east; Terminal 5?)

Priority Access line in a Terminal 4 is accessed from the escalator on the left end (looking at the counters) of the terminal (furthest from TBIT, closest to terminal 5), next to the Priority Access check-in area. Often there is an AA worker at the bottom of the escalator making sure only Priority Access passengers go up this escalator. The First, Business and Priority Access lines now have their own screening room far from the economy area. This private room has multiple screening lines and during peak periods additional lines are opened up.

Security for (TBIT) international arrivals proceeding to Terminal 4 is open as of February 2017. When exiting TBIT customs and baggage recheck area, turn right immediately after the exit and proceed down the hallway to the checkpoint. No Pre-Check.


Check-in and ticketing at LAX and check in times Link

Flagship Check-in: YES Marked exclusive T-4 Flagship check-in entrance 4:00 a.m. 1:00 a.m.

Five Star Service: YES

Priority and Preferred Access: YES

Curbside check-in: Yes. Terminal 4 only, including for international destinations.

Minimum time for checking in and arriving at the gate at LAX

Minimum time to check baggage

To help us get your bag on the same flight with you, present your bag to an airline representative for check-in no later than the cutoff time.

For flights within and between the U.S., Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands:
  • Check bags at least 45 minutes prior to scheduled departure at LAX

For flights originating in airports outside the U.S. or flights departing the U.S. for an international destination:
  • Check bags at least 60 minutes prior to scheduled departure (90 if checking for Eagle at T-4 instead of T-5)

Time to baggage delivery: expect 0:30 or more.


Ticket counter locations

Terminal 4: upon entry, Qantas to right; First and Priority Access to left; Main Cabin straight ahead.
Self-service check-in kiosks available.
Open Daily: 04:00 - 00:30 (4 am to midnight + 30)

Terminal 5, east side: OPEN Tue 31 Jan 2017
Open Daily: 4:30 AM - 12:30 AM

Terminal 6: CLOSE Tue 31 Jan 2017
Open Daily: 4:30 AM - 12:30 AM

If departing on American Eagle, suggested check-in at T-5 Tue 31 Jan 2017 or after.


Minimum and reasonable connection and check-in times at LAX

See 20 May 2016 ExpertFlyer MCT listings here:
Originally Posted by serfty View Post
The MCT's for AA at LAX are a mess...
Q. What are minimum check-in time requirements at LAX?

AA requires arriving a minimum of 45 minutes prior to domestic departures if departing domestically (including Hawai'i, Puerto Rico and the U. S. Virgin Islands) if one has no baggage to check; 60 minutes if one must check baggage; and two hours prior to international departures.

Additionally, AA requires passengers be checked in at least 45 minutes prior to scheduled departure at LAX and "Arrive at the gate and be ready to board at least 15 minutes prior to domestic departure" and 30 minutes prior to international departure. Gates close to boarding 10 minutes prior to departure.

Q. What is the domestic to domestic or domestic to international Minimum Connection Time (MCT)?

The minimum connect time at LAX, domestic to domestic or international, is 0:40 minutes. International to domestic or international MCT is 2:00, but as mentioned previously, this may be insufficient. Note: MCT is generally not waived for international passengers arriving from USCBP pre-clearance airports.

See AA domestic to international MCT from ExpertFlyer Nov 2016 c/o Serfty here.

Q. If I am making an international to international connection, what is the process?

There is no international transit process in nearly all airports in the USA (DFW and MIA have a baggage exception for international to international). Arriving internationally, unless you have been pre-cleared, you must proceed through U. S. immigration (there are kiosks and a fast channel for Global Entry approved passengers), recover your baggage from the baggage carousel and proceed through U. S. Customs.

Upon exiting Customs at TBIT there is a bag drop facility; drop your checked baggage, exit to the landside arrivals area. Pre-cleared passengers arriving at TBIT will bypass USCBP (but most airlines will enforce international to domestic MCT nonetheless).

ALL arrivals are forced landside (you may pass back through security at the TBIT end of the T-4 - TBIT connector) and Terminal 4 is a short walk to your right, Terminal 6 farther; one can board courtesy airport "A" busses and be dropped off very shortly at T-4 or T-5.

NOTE: Whilst most international Arrivals process immigration and customs at TBIT, some arriving at T-4 may walk a long underground passage and process formalities at TBIT. Others may process at T-4, but if you arrive with bags those will be available at TBIT.

There is no Arrivals Loinge for AA or oneworld customers at LAX.

Q. What is AA policy if I have separate tickets and my incoming flight is delayed?

Protection for oneworld world customers travelling on separate bookings:
oneworld Global Support

Your oneworld connection is generally not officially protected, but the airline may help you and put you on the next available flight, and AA does generally protect oneworld connections at this time..

If your flights are on the same PNR:

Connecting between airlines at unfamiliar airports can be a stressful experience, especially if your flight is delayed. American Airlines recognizes the impact delays and missed connections can have on your plans and on your life. That is why we partnered with the other oneworld member airlines to form teams of connection experts: oneworld Global Support.

At select airports across the oneworld alliance network, teams are proactively monitoring connecting flights and, whenever possible, they will meet and assist you if your connection is in jeopardy. The oneworld Global Support teams will do their best to allow you to use dedicated fast track lanes through immigration or security to help you catch your next flight. Our teams will also do everything possible to transfer your baggage so that it makes it on time to your final destination.

If you miss your connecting flight, the oneworld Global Support team will provide you with updated travel information, a new boarding pass and, where applicable, assistance with overnight accommodations.

oneworld Global Support is currently available at Chicago O'Hare, Dallas/Fort Worth, London Heathrow, Los Angeles, Madrid-Barajas, Miami, New York JFK and Sydney. The service is offered at these airports whenever possible, subject to operational constraints.
See:
oneworld not requiring protection or interline baggage 1 Jun 2016; AA policy
Q. Can I check my baggage through?

If you're connecting within the oneworld alliance or airlines with an interline agreement and your connection is under eleven hours, all segments on the same PNR, probably. If over that or with separate PNRs (even within oneworld) airlines without an interline agreements with AA or on separate tickets connecting with non-oneworld airlines, no.

See oneworld not requiring protection or interline baggage 1 Jun 2016; AA policy.

Q. Is there baggage storage at LAX?

No. Since 9/11 most USA airports have eliminated baggage storage, but you can use a baggage storage firm that will pick up, store and return your baggage. You do not have to pre-book, and they are open 24/7: http://www.laxluggagestorage.com. There are $5 pickup, $5 return and storage charges.


WiFi at LAX:

"Internet Access at Los Angeles LAX Airport. LAX Airport offers free internet access, with paid upgrades: Free Wi-Fi service for up to 44 minutes is available in most of the public areas of the Airport - provided by Advanced Wireless Group."

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Other resources
  • Link to AA FAQ: Will I make my connection?
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Old Aug 15, 17, 6:00 pm
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Originally Posted by funsmpls View Post
Hi. Can't seem to find the answer. I'll be flying in to LAX from Mexico and connecting to a domestic flight. For the past few days, it appears the inbound flight from Mexico arrives at terminal 5 and the domestic departs from terminal 5. All mainline flights. Is there a customs facility in terminal 5? Just curious. Many thanks.
There is a Federal Inspection Services facility at T5, however, it is closed. When you get off the plane, you'll be directed via escalators and sterile corridors past the closed FIS facility to buses which will take you to TBIT for immigration and customs inspections.

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Old Aug 15, 17, 6:02 pm
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Many thanks!!!
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Old Aug 18, 17, 5:46 pm
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Hi all,

I'll be connecting in LAX this weekend, into T5 and out of T4. Is there anywhere recommended to watch an English premier league soccer match at 8am? I have access to any OWE lounges.

Many thanks
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Old Aug 18, 17, 6:41 pm
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Is the easiest check in at 8am Saturday for eagles nest t4 or t5?

thanks!
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Old Aug 18, 17, 7:23 pm
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Is the easiest check in at 8am Saturday for eagles nest t4 or t5?

thanks!
Are you checking a bag? If so, T4 wants you to check-in 90 minutes prior to an American Eagle flight.

Checked baggage or not, I'd recommend T5.
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Old Aug 18, 17, 7:25 pm
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Originally Posted by jcatman View Post
Are you checking a bag? If so, T4 wants you to check-in 90 minutes prior to an American Eagle flight.

Checked baggage or not, I'd recommend T5.
No checked bags;I appreciate the recommendation!
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Old Aug 22, 17, 6:18 pm
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Could not believe how crowded the "temp" Flagship Lounge was vs. QF F Lounge

I flew out of LAX this past Monday and we had a fairly long morning layover. We always make our way to the QF First Lounge in TBIT, and due to the fact it was morning, there were maybe 10 people there for most of our visit.

I wanted to get up and get some walking in, so I decided to walk back to T4 and check out what was going on with the renovations with the AC and Flagship Lounge. To say I was shocked was an understatement when I walked through the under construction hallway to the temp Flagship Lounge. It was packed to the gills!

Each to their own, but I was surprised that all these people that had access to the QF First Lounge as well had decided to hang out in the middle of a construction zone instead. I'm sure once the renovations are completed, it will be a more even consideration, but now...
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Old Aug 27, 17, 6:51 pm
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Flew in yesterday DFW to LAX on AA2463 (the 787-9 flight). Arrived at LAX and ended up at Gate 344 (aka the former penalty box). Absolute clustflox disembarking and getting into the shuttles. Took forever to get to T4.
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Old Aug 30, 17, 10:17 am
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Priority services in T5?

My sincere apologies if this has been answered (I read the sticky and searched the thread, did not find anything satisfactory) - I am flying first class LAX-PHL next week, presumably out of T5 since it's a LUS flight. flight is at 11:40pm so getting to check-in 9:30pm or so (need to check 2 large bags).

Is there Priority check-in that i can use at that hour at Terminal 5? How about a Priority security line in T5? If so, where are they located within the terminal? If not, is it worth using the Priority services in T4 and then walking over, or is T5 check-in & security typically quiet at that hour? Thanks very much for your thoughts!
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Old Aug 30, 17, 2:01 pm
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quick anecdote related to my question directly above - I called AA to modify a different reservation, and afterwards decided to ask about services in T5 for my PHL flight. this agent insisted that AA does not use T5. i then asked "so where do I check-in?" and she replied "T4 & T6 for domestic flights". hmmm......
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Old Sep 8, 17, 1:45 pm
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Thought i'd offer follow-up here. not having received an answer, I checked in at T4, then walked tunnel to T5. There was a lot of vehicle traffic getting dropped off at the terminal (20 minutes from ramp from Sepulveda southbound to T4 curb). once inside, the main bag-drop counters had waits, but nothing major - a line of a few people at each. I headed left to the Priority counters (2 in service), no one in front of me. On a whim, i asked if i could use the flagship check-in and was told that it was "closed for the night". Not sure if this was true or used as a line to get me to forget about it. What was described as "Priority Security" in the sticky (up the escalators in T4 left-side) has been converted into an pre-chek-only security area, but it does not require Priority status. That being said, there was literally no-one in line here, so using it was a pleasure.

Went into T4 Adm. club hoping to buy a day pass and take a shower, but the place was in miserable shape owing to construction work. Walked over to T5 Adm. Club, where the AAngel said that there are no day-pass entries to the T5 Club for the next month or so b/c it's "brand new" (although it was empty!). I remarked that it was empty, and the AAngel was nice enough to level with me and said the no-day-pass rule is a strategy is to boost sign-ups for the Citi Exec card. She said that she was supposed to mention that if I applied for the card on my phone and showed her my application receipt page, she'd then let me in, but apparently I "didn't seem like the type to be pressured into getting a credit card". Thanks! (?)

Well, I appreciated her honestly. No shower for me that night. Settled for another tunnel walk to T6 to a very, very crowded Alaska Club. Used my priority pass to get in. Attendant said that they had only started accepting PP minutes earlier, because it was too crowded earlier in the evening.

First Class LAX-PHL was okay. blanket provided, but no pillows, even upon request. Was offered a PDB and then a "lite bites" choice after take-off (Hummus & Pita, Cheese Plate, or fruit). Cold breakfast before landing, which I skipped.
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Old Sep 8, 17, 3:36 pm
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Originally Posted by orvando View Post
Went into T4 Adm. club hoping to buy a day pass and take a shower, but the place was in miserable shape owing to construction work. Walked over to T5 Adm. Club, where the AAngel said that there are no day-pass entries to the T5 Club for the next month or so b/c it's "brand new" (although it was empty!).
From the Admirals Club Membership page of AA.com:
One-Day Pass

Available at select locations for $59. Excludes airports with clubs under construction:

  • Chicago (ORD)
  • Dallas / Fort Worth (DFW)
  • Los Angeles (LAX)
  • Miami (MIA)
  • New York (JFK)
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Old Sep 8, 17, 5:51 pm
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Originally Posted by orvando View Post
What was described as "Priority Security" in the sticky (up the escalators in T4 left-side) has been converted into an pre-chek-only security area, but it does not require Priority status. That being said, there was literally no-one in line here, so using it was a pleasure.
Probably due to the time of day? I was there yesterday and there was pre-check on far left, directly up the elevators and a second priority security area a few steps further down the balcony toward the main area. I did pre-check and it was crowded and definitely not a pleasure, but was faster than the last time I was there. Again, they were randomly sending people from the X-ray line to the body scanner, and had nobody manning the body scanner, so people were just waiting there. Luckily I made it through without having to do this, so I don't know how long they had to wait.
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Old Sep 19, 17, 8:53 pm
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AA takes over T5 DeltaOne check-in room?

I've heard rumblings that AA has just re-opened what was the DeltaOne check-in room in T5, but that it's now open to anyone with the "Priority" stamp on their AA boarding pass (all elites and all first/biz passengers - a much wider audience than Delta allowed). Can anyone confirm this? And/or provide details regarding hours, food/drink offerings, etc? Thanks!
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Old Oct 6, 17, 2:57 pm
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I apologize, I have searched up and down and can't seem to find an answer. Do all international arrivals now clear customs in TBIT and exit from TBIT?

Meeting an arrival this weekend - gate shows 43, but I am fairly certain customs exit is at TBIT.
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