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NOTE: AA uses Terminals 4 and 5, the remote 摘agle痴 Nest and some gates at TBIT


Link to Los Angeles World Airports' LAX Airport website

NOTE: LAX is always undergoing changes; be aware the information herein may change. See here for LAWA notices affecting passengers.

Link LAWA / LAX FAQ page.

Link to aa.com


Link to 14 Feb 2017 post with AA-AA Minimum Times Times

NOTE: The Admirals Clubョ lounge and Flagship Lounge in Terminal 4 at Los Angeles International (LAX) are under renovations.

Special notice

AA operate from multiple terminals at LAX. Check in at Terminal 5, east end (Gates 50-59, including Remote American Eagle terminal, gates 52A-J) or Terminal 4 (Gates 40-49, 110-159)
. (As of 31 Jan 2017)

NOTE: the 100s gates are at the Tom Bradley International Air Terminal (aka Terminal B), accessible to / from Terminal 4 by the airside connector if you are already airside and security cleared.


[AA T-6 ops moved to T-5; other airline positioning to occur 12, 14 and 16 May 2017[/B]


Check-in times as of March 2016 Link

In most locations, you must be checked in:

At least 45 minutes before scheduled departure, for flights within the United States

At least 60 minutes before scheduled departure, for flights to or from airports outside of the United States
. Some non-US require more.

If you are checking in with baggage to check at T-4, not T-5, and flying American Eagle from the remote "Eagle's Nest" 52A-J gates (31 Jan 2017 and after), you must check in 90 minutes prior to departure.

LAYOUT: LAX is like a letter "U" on its side, open end facing right. The Tom Bradley International Terminal is the bar of the "U" facing left, on the west side. Terminals 1, 2 and 3 on the north and 4 - 8 on the south. Entering the semicircular, counter-clockwise roadway serving the terminals, you will pass terminals 1, 2, 3, TBIT, 4, 5, 6, etc. There is quite a bit of construction going on and the airport roadways can get quite congested.

MCT: Though international to International or Domestic Minimum Connect Times (MCT) are listed as 2:00, arriving at the remote western 200 pads and gates (served by busses from the terminals), connecting between T4, T6, Remote Eagle terminal and TBIT, not to mention lengthy USCBP queues and the need to proceed landslide to connecting terminals and processing security may make 2:00 unrealistic at times. MCT Domestic to Domestic or International is often 0:40, but this may be unrealistic if connecting American Eagle remote terminal 52A-J and a domestic flight at TBIT, for example.

Operating terminals and gates

Terminal 4: AA primarily uses Terminal 4, Gates 40-49 but now also uses Terminal 5 (50-59, 52A-I remote Eagle gates and TBIT (110-159). Flagship Checkin, Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge are all in T-4.


Tom Bradley International Terminal ("100") gates 110-159 for domestic and international flights, with no particular flight assignment - check your gates information.

oneworld Business and Qantas First lounges in TBIT for qualified passengers. See LOUNGE DASHBOARD for further information - link.

Occasionally, the "200 gates" remote pads (bus from T-4) may be used. Terminal 4 and TBIT are connected airside by a new connector. Qualified travelers may use the TBIT oneworld Business or Qantas First lounges. See separate thread.

Terminal 5 AS OF Tue 31 Jan 2017: Legacy US flights operate from Terminal 5, gates 50 - 59. It is best to check in for American Eagle flights at T-5. Airside connection exists, as well as shuttles. Bus port at T-5 is at gate 52. American Eagle checked baggage is delivered to Terminal 5 baggage carousels; Eagle remote gates are now numbered 52A-J.


Terminal 6: Alaska Airlines flights operate from Terminal 6.

Legacy US flights operated from Terminal 6 until 31 Jan 2017; AA no longer operates out of Terminal 6.

American Eagle Remote Terminal "Eagle's Nest": Regional flights operate at a remote terminal served frequently by airside shuttle busses from bus gates 44 and 60. The remote American Eagle terminal gate numeration has changed: "May 16 2016 the remote gates at LAX formerly 44 A-J were renumbered to 60 A-J." There is a "junior" Admirals Club here. Preferred Eagle check in and baggage carousels are in T-5?

While you may check in at T-4 for American Eagle, those with baggage to check must do so no less than 90 minutes prior to departure. The preferred baggage check deadline is in place at T-5 for American Eagle.

Walking Interterminal - Landside

Note: You can walk airside between Terminal 4 and TBIT as of 25 Feb 2016. See LAX Terminal 4 - Tom Bradley Intl Terminal Secure Connector), and on to T-5 via a corridor (ground floor, by bus gate 44).

One can also walk landside between terminals on upper or lower walkway sidewalks just outside the roadway. Lower walkways are protected from the weather, upper walkways are not. Distances can be short (T-4 <-> TBIT) or long (20 minutes or less in all cases, and there are crosswalks and walkways serving north and south terminals. See north - south blue corridors in Ground Transport map, above; walkways parallel them.

For access to the Tom Bradley International Terminal ("TBIT") one may also proceed landslide and walk a short distance, or take the counter clockwise landside courtesy airport shuttle bus.

Originally Posted by QueenOfCoach
Here is a graphic I made from a Google Earth Streetview screenshot that shows how close T4 is to TBIT. It's a two-minute walk. One minute if you are fast.

Link to fullsize map


Airside - Shuttle Bus or Walking

Airside shuttle busses:

NO BUS T-4 <-> T-5 (faster to walk pedestrian tunnel)
T-4 <-> Remote Eagle terminal (most efficient and frequent)
T-5 <-> Remote Eagle terminal (more frequent than from / to T-4)

Terminals 4 and 5: A courtesy shuttle bus operates airside between Terminal 4, ex-gate 44 bus gate, and Terminal 6 gate 60-62 through Mon 30 Jan 2017 - afterwards, Terminal gate 52, every fifteen minutes between 05:00 and 23:00; ongoing boarding pass required. At other times one either take the airside corridor T-5 Tue 31 Jan and after <-> T-4 or exit landslide and walk or take the counter-clockwise landslide courtesy shuttle bus.

American Eagle Remote Terminal: A courtesy shuttle bus serves the American Eagle remote terminal from Terminal 5, gate 52. Note: American Eagle checked baggage is delivered to Terminal 5 baggage carousels. Another shuttle runs from Terminal 4, gate 44 bus gate. A boarding pass to Gate 52A-I is required. This is the sole way of reaching these gates (other than Five Star Service passengers, who are shuttled via the Tarmac in Cadillac SUVs).

Terminal 4 - TBIT: The new pedestrian airside connector opened 25 Feb 2015. Qantas and AA passengers departing the TBIT can check in at Terminal 4, process airside, use Admirals or Flagship lounges T-4 <-> TBIT shuttles apparently ended when the airside connector open 25 Feb 2016[/hl].

Walk Terminals 4 and 5: One can walk airside using the Terminal 4 - 5 - 6 connector.

Walk Terminal 4 - TBIT airside connector: An airside connector leading to TBIT is open effective 25 Feb 2016. See here (FT) for more.


Getting from terminal to terminal, concourse to concourse, landside

Landside courtesy airport shuttle bus
  • "A" line buses: Transports passengers between terminals. "A" route operates 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and runs every 10 minutes (counter clockwise)

  • "C" line buses: Transports passengers to and from Parking Lot C. Travelers can walk to the LAX City Bus Center from Lot C. "C" route operates 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and runs every 10 to 15 minutes.

  • "G" line busses: Transports passengers with a valid TAP card to and from the Metro Green Line Aviation Station. Service is aligned with the rail schedule. To view, please go to www.metro.net . Click here for Green line Boarding Procedures (PDF document). TAP card is not required when taking the G Bus from LAX to the Aviation Metro Station.

  • Use this link for a real time map display of shuttle bus locations and movements.

  • Rental car company busses: transport passengers between terminals and car rental facilities.

Ground Transportation stops / pickups at LAX

NOTE: Rental, hotel shuttle, ワber, etc. stops are in front of each terminal on the arrivals / lower level at the island crossing the first lanes of traffic.


Security at LAX

Link to FlyerGuide information on LAX T-4 Security.

TSA PreCheck: Yes (Terminal 4 upstairs, east; Terminal 5?)

Priority Access line in a Terminal 4 is accessed from the escalator on the left end (looking at the counters) of the terminal (furthest from TBIT, closest to terminal 5), next to the Priority Access check-in area. Often there is an AA worker at the bottom of the escalator making sure only Priority Access passengers go up this escalator. The First, Business and Priority Access lines now have their own screening room far from the economy area. This private room has multiple screening lines and during peak periods additional lines are opened up.

Security for (TBIT) international arrivals proceeding to Terminal 4 is open as of February 2017. When exiting TBIT customs and baggage recheck area, turn right immediately after the exit and proceed down the hallway to the checkpoint. No Pre-Check.


Check-in and ticketing at LAX and check in times Link

Flagship Check-in: YES Marked exclusive T-4 Flagship check-in entrance 4:00 a.m. 1:00 a.m.

Five Star Service: YES

Priority and Preferred Access: YES

Curbside check-in: Yes. Terminal 4 only, including for international destinations.

Minimum time for checking in and arriving at the gate at LAX

Minimum time to check baggage

To help us get your bag on the same flight with you, present your bag to an airline representative for check-in no later than the cutoff time.

For flights within and between the U.S., Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands:
  • Check bags at least 45 minutes prior to scheduled departure at LAX

For flights originating in airports outside the U.S. or flights departing the U.S. for an international destination:
  • Check bags at least 60 minutes prior to scheduled departure (90 if checking for Eagle at T-4 instead of T-5)

Time to baggage delivery: expect 0:30 or more.


Ticket counter locations

Terminal 4: upon entry, Qantas to right; First and Priority Access to left; Main Cabin straight ahead.
Self-service check-in kiosks available.
Open Daily: 04:00 - 00:30 (4 am to midnight + 30)

Terminal 5, east side: OPEN Tue 31 Jan 2017
Open Daily: 4:30 AM - 12:30 AM

Terminal 6: CLOSE Tue 31 Jan 2017
Open Daily: 4:30 AM - 12:30 AM

If departing on American Eagle, suggested check-in at T-5 Tue 31 Jan 2017 or after.


Minimum and reasonable connection and check-in times at LAX

See 20 May 2016 ExpertFlyer MCT listings here:
Originally Posted by serfty View Post
The MCT's for AA at LAX are a mess...
Q. What are minimum check-in time requirements at LAX?

AA requires arriving a minimum of 45 minutes prior to domestic departures if departing domestically (including Hawai'i, Puerto Rico and the U. S. Virgin Islands) if one has no baggage to check; 60 minutes if one must check baggage; and two hours prior to international departures.

Additionally, AA requires passengers be checked in at least 45 minutes prior to scheduled departure at LAX and "Arrive at the gate and be ready to board at least 15 minutes prior to domestic departure" and 30 minutes prior to international departure. Gates close to boarding 10 minutes prior to departure.

Q. What is the domestic to domestic or domestic to international Minimum Connection Time (MCT)?

The minimum connect time at LAX, domestic to domestic or international, is 0:40 minutes. International to domestic or international MCT is 2:00, but as mentioned previously, this may be insufficient. Note: MCT is generally not waived for international passengers arriving from USCBP pre-clearance airports.

See AA domestic to international MCT from ExpertFlyer Nov 2016 c/o Serfty here.

Q. If I am making an international to international connection, what is the process?

There is no international transit process in nearly all airports in the USA (DFW and MIA have a baggage exception for international to international). Arriving internationally, unless you have been pre-cleared, you must proceed through U. S. immigration (there are kiosks and a fast channel for Global Entry approved passengers), recover your baggage from the baggage carousel and proceed through U. S. Customs.

Upon exiting Customs at TBIT there is a bag drop facility; drop your checked baggage, exit to the landside arrivals area. Pre-cleared passengers arriving at TBIT will bypass USCBP (but most airlines will enforce international to domestic MCT nonetheless).

ALL arrivals are forced landside (you may pass back through security at the TBIT end of the T-4 - TBIT connector) and Terminal 4 is a short walk to your right, Terminal 6 farther; one can board courtesy airport "A" busses and be dropped off very shortly at T-4 or T-5.

NOTE: Whilst most international Arrivals process immigration and customs at TBIT, some arriving at T-4 may walk a long underground passage and process formalities at TBIT. Others may process at T-4, but if you arrive with bags those will be available at TBIT.

There is no Arrivals Loinge for AA or oneworld customers at LAX.

Q. What is AA policy if I have separate tickets and my incoming flight is delayed?

Protection for oneworld world customers travelling on separate bookings:
oneworld Global Support

Your oneworld connection is generally not officially protected, but the airline may help you and put you on the next available flight, and AA does generally protect oneworld connections at this time..

If your flights are on the same PNR:

Connecting between airlines at unfamiliar airports can be a stressful experience, especially if your flight is delayed. American Airlines recognizes the impact delays and missed connections can have on your plans and on your life. That is why we partnered with the other oneworld member airlines to form teams of connection experts: oneworld Global Support.

At select airports across the oneworld alliance network, teams are proactively monitoring connecting flights and, whenever possible, they will meet and assist you if your connection is in jeopardy. The oneworld Global Support teams will do their best to allow you to use dedicated fast track lanes through immigration or security to help you catch your next flight. Our teams will also do everything possible to transfer your baggage so that it makes it on time to your final destination.

If you miss your connecting flight, the oneworld Global Support team will provide you with updated travel information, a new boarding pass and, where applicable, assistance with overnight accommodations.

oneworld Global Support is currently available at Chicago O'Hare, Dallas/Fort Worth, London Heathrow, Los Angeles, Madrid-Barajas, Miami, New York JFK and Sydney. The service is offered at these airports whenever possible, subject to operational constraints.
See:
oneworld not requiring protection or interline baggage 1 Jun 2016; AA policy
Q. Can I check my baggage through?

If you're connecting within the oneworld alliance or airlines with an interline agreement and your connection is under eleven hours, all segments on the same PNR, probably. If over that or with separate PNRs (even within oneworld) airlines without an interline agreements with AA or on separate tickets connecting with non-oneworld airlines, no.

See oneworld not requiring protection or interline baggage 1 Jun 2016; AA policy.

Q. Is there baggage storage at LAX?

No. Since 9/11 most USA airports have eliminated baggage storage, but you can use a baggage storage firm that will pick up, store and return your baggage. You do not have to pre-book, and they are open 24/7: http://www.laxluggagestorage.com. There are $5 pickup, $5 return and storage charges.


WiFi at LAX:

"Internet Access at Los Angeles LAX Airport. LAX Airport offers free internet access, with paid upgrades: Free Wi-Fi service for up to 44 minutes is available in most of the public areas of the Airport - provided by Advanced Wireless Group."

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Other resources
  • Link to AA FAQ: Will I make my connection?
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Old Feb 4, 17, 7:47 am
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Originally Posted by jxsheikh View Post
At one point in time AA had their own CBP in T4. What is the current status in 2017 in T4? Is there any CBP for incoming international flights, or do all incoming passengers on AA have to go through TBIT CBP?

If the latter, I am assuming that, whether the planes have a gate in T4 itself or TBIT, it doesnt matter - T4 incoming passengers get shuttled through to TBIT airside, somehow?

Reason I ask - I have Global Entry - hoping to be able to utilize it for a fast CBP process, which in the past has been quick for me in TBIT.
Originally Posted by QueenOfCoach View Post
I don't know if the T4 CBP will ever come back (and I hope it does), but I can tell you that when T4 CBP was in operation, there were two Global Entry kiosks available for passengers. I used them, myself, in the early days of Global Entry.
I apologize in advance if this information is non-current (I'll check it now,) or non-responsive, but, last I was told (and this was in November of last year,) :

"the CBP area in the connector is open but only partially. Those who arrive in T4 qualified to use the kiosks (GE, e-passports, etc.) Can connect in the connector. Everyone else who need to see a human CBP officer currently must still walk to TBIT. Also checked bags must also be picked up at TBIT. Eventually all these things will be done at T4 but not yet."
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Originally Posted by JonNYC View Post
I apologize in advance if this information is non-current (I'll check it now,) or non-responsive, but, last I was told (and this was in November of last year,) :

"the CBP area in the connector is open but only partially. Those who arrive in T4 qualified to use the kiosks (GE, e-passports, etc.) Can connect in the connector. Everyone else who need to see a human CBP officer currently must still walk to TBIT. Also checked bags must also be picked up at TBIT. Eventually all these things will be done at T4 but not yet."
Just last week we arrived at gate 41 mid-day on a flight from Tokyo. We made the longish walk to TBIT in the connector tunnel to clear customs/immigration. Never saw any GE kiosks prior to reaching TBIT, so if they still exist they weren't available at that time.
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Originally Posted by OtherHand View Post
Just last week we arrived at gate 41 mid-day on a flight from Tokyo. We made the longish walk to TBIT in the connector tunnel to clear customs/immigration. Never saw any GE kiosks prior to reaching TBIT, so if they still exist they weren't available at that time.
Thanks very much for the input-- will enquire as to what happened!
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Originally Posted by OtherHand View Post
Just last week we arrived at gate 41 mid-day on a flight from Tokyo. We made the longish walk to TBIT in the connector tunnel to clear customs/immigration. Never saw any GE kiosks prior to reaching TBIT, so if they still exist they weren't available at that time.
Is this connector tunnel part of the new airside TBIT-T4 connector that opened last year? Or is it a separate tunnel/facility altogether?
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Originally Posted by dkc192 View Post
Is this connector tunnel part of the new airside TBIT-T4 connector that opened last year? Or is it a separate tunnel/facility altogether?
This is a separate, older tunnel, iirc.
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Originally Posted by dkc192 View Post
Is this connector tunnel part of the new airside TBIT-T4 connector that opened last year? Or is it a separate tunnel/facility altogether?
As JDiver said, it is a separate passageway. But to me it seemed as if its route was immediately beneath the new airside connector.
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Originally Posted by dkc192 View Post
Is this connector tunnel part of the new airside TBIT-T4 connector that opened last year? Or is it a separate tunnel/facility altogether?
Originally Posted by JDiver View Post
This is a separate, older tunnel, iirc.
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As JDiver said, it is a separate passageway. But to me it seemed as if its route was immediately beneath the new airside connector.
The sterile (pre-custom clearance) tunnel connecting Gate 41 to TBIT is not new. It was closed during the connector construction but has since reopened. The new above ground connector building is a secured (post TSA) connection, not a sterile connection... two different things.

And I've posted this elsewhere in the LA forum but I will repeat it for the benefit of the AA thread - If your int'l flight arrives at Gate 41 or 43, these two gates have the tunnel connection to TBIT so you just take 5~10 minutes walk to TBIT.

If your int'l arrives at any other gate in T4, e.g. the narrow body gates, then you will be bused to TBIT.

Obviously, if you are have to take a bus to TBIT, you need to add about 30~45 minutes ground time in figuring out if you will make your connection. Worse case is if your int'l arrive at a T4 gate that require bus to TBIT and then have a connecting flight from Eagles nest - good luck making the connection in that case.
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The sterile (pre-custom clearance) tunnel connecting Gate 41 to TBIT is not new. It was closed during the connector construction but has since reopened. The new above ground connector building is a secured (post TSA) connection, not a sterile connection... two different things.

And I've posted this elsewhere in the LA forum but I will repeat it for the benefit of the AA thread - If your int'l flight arrives at Gate 41 or 43, these two gates have the tunnel connection to TBIT so you just take 5~10 minutes walk to TBIT.

If your int'l arrives at any other gate in T4, e.g. the narrow body gates, then you will be bused to TBIT.

Obviously, if you are have to take a bus to TBIT, you need to add about 30~45 minutes ground time in figuring out if you will make your connection. Worse case is if your int'l arrive at a T4 gate that require bus to TBIT and then have a connecting flight from Eagles nest - good luck making the connection in that case.
Thanks all! For my personal edification, has anyone used this tunnel from gates 41/43 to TBIT customs recently or have memory of it? Is it a pretty sterile-looking tunnel like the ones from T4 to T5 to T6? Or is it somewhat more "spruced up"?
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Originally Posted by dkc192 View Post
Thanks all! For my personal edification, has anyone used this tunnel from gates 41/43 to TBIT customs recently or have memory of it? Is it a pretty sterile-looking tunnel like the ones from T4 to T5 to T6? Or is it somewhat more "spruced up"?
Not 100% sure since this was in November but I got off AA192 at Gate 41 and it led to the T4 CBP area. I remember CBP was to the right and there were two areas, one for GE and one for APC. I remember two contract staff (I don't think they were CBP agents) trying to force everyone to use those machines but they were not working and it was a complete mayhem as the rest of the pax came in. Then I sort of 'bailed' after I couldn't get the kiosk to work (I think it was the GE machine not letting me choose my visa status or something) (yeah, there were no lines and barriers etc..) and just walked straight ahead to TBIT.

It's not as depressing as the T4-5-6 connector but it was weird since it was at ground level or something, and was quite long. I guess I walked on on the basis that there was signage, so it should be pretty straightforward. Eventually I arrived at the TBIT customs hall where GE was completely empty and it was just like a typical TBIT arrival then.
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Originally Posted by dkc192 View Post
Thanks all! For my personal edification, has anyone used this tunnel from gates 41/43 to TBIT customs recently or have memory of it? Is it a pretty sterile-looking tunnel like the ones from T4 to T5 to T6? Or is it somewhat more "spruced up"?
There are photos of the sterile arrival tunnel in this post in the "ARCHIVE: LAX Terminal 4 - TBIT secure airside connector to be built" thread.
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Arrive off AA192 late January. Went down into the sterile tunnel and was lead into an inspection "space" beside the tunnel with GE and APC machines. It seems all passengers are lead to the machines and contract staff would direct you either directly out of that "space" or to an officer to get your passport stamped (I think based on the difference of machine receipt). Then if you have you passport stamped you would be directed to TBIT baggage claim, and if not you will be referred to the normal TBIT immigration queue.

EDIT: That inspection space I was referring to is exactly the T4 FIS as in the photo TWA884 mentions. I think it opens during daytime (which can be found on CBP Wait times LAX T4) but no longer features a complete FIS service as customs are still done in TBIT.
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Im told that this :

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/27864256-post602.html

Originally Posted by JonNYC View Post
I apologize in advance if this information is non-current (I'll check it now,) or non-responsive, but, last I was told (and this was in November of last year,) :

"the CBP area in the connector is open but only partially. Those who arrive in T4 qualified to use the kiosks (GE, e-passports, etc.) Can connect in the connector. Everyone else who need to see a human CBP officer currently must still walk to TBIT. Also checked bags must also be picked up at TBIT. Eventually all these things will be done at T4 but not yet."

When I asked if that was still current, was told:

"T4 FIS still planned on being opened but still under renovation."
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Only ONE CBP handling global entry and ONE handling APC! Forever?

Originally Posted by jxsheikh View Post
At one point in time AA had their own CBP in T4. What is the current status in 2017 in T4? Is there any CBP for incoming international flights, or do all incoming passengers on AA have to go through TBIT CBP?

If the latter, I am assuming that, whether the planes have a gate in T4 itself or TBIT, it doesnt matter - T4 incoming passengers get shuttled through to TBIT airside, somehow?

Reason I ask - I have Global Entry - hoping to be able to utilize it for a fast CBP process, which in the past has been quick for me in TBIT.
Am a US citizen. Last week I arrived from LHR to Gate 43. In the sterile walkways I was directed down an escalator (I think it was an escalator) and then we were presented with a "fork" or sorts. US and Canadian citizens and Global Entry people could turn right and use the Global Entry and APC (Automated Passport Control) kiosks still in the T4 building while just about everyone else was directed to turn left and presumably had a long walk to TBIT to the large CBP arrivals area.

When you stay in T4, while there seems to be an adequate amount of Global Entry and APC kiosks, after you're issued the receipt from the kiosk, you need to have a sort-of final approval by a CBP agent to proceed, either to the street or to the baggage claim (which I also presume is in TBIT but I'm not sure) depending on if you checked bags.

Problem is, there is only one CBP agent for the APC line and one for the Global Entry line and the CBP agent spends at least a couple of minutes with each person to ask some questions. The Global Entry line seems to move a little quicker, but only a little. I'm not Global Entry, so while I quickly got my APC receipt, I had to wait 15 minutes for the "final" interview. I was in MCE so I was relatively early to arrive in the hall. I can't imagine how long the line took for those way in the back in Y.

It was a small room and there were no other empty desks for CBP agents. It looked like it was set up for just the 2-agent total arrangement.

After the final interview and you didn't check bags, you're directed through a door which is in fact the T4 building exit onto the World Way sidewalk located on the far northwest corner of the building on the arrivals level. No "meet and greet" area to speak of. I had friends meeting me and had to walk to the AA arrivals hall and re-enter the building to sneak up to my friends from behind who were waiting for me to emerge from the usual T4 arrivals tunnel.

It's all confusing.

Is this T4 one-CBP agent per APC and Global Entry line permanent?
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Originally Posted by Oakshadow View Post
Am a US citizen. Last week I arrived from LHR to Gate 43. In the sterile walkways I was directed down an escalator (I think it was an escalator) and then we were presented with a "fork" or sorts. US and Canadian citizens and Global Entry people could turn right and use the Global Entry and APC (Automated Passport Control) kiosks still in the T4 building while just about everyone else was directed to turn left and presumably had a long walk to TBIT to the large CBP arrivals area.

When you stay in T4, while there seems to be an adequate amount of Global Entry and APC kiosks, after you're issued the receipt from the kiosk, you need to have a sort-of final approval by a CBP agent to proceed, either to the street or to the baggage claim (which I also presume is in TBIT but I'm not sure) depending on if you checked bags.

Problem is, there is only one CBP agent for the APC line and one for the Global Entry line and the CBP agent spends at least a couple of minutes with each person to ask some questions. The Global Entry line seems to move a little quicker, but only a little. I'm not Global Entry, so while I quickly got my APC receipt, I had to wait 15 minutes for the "final" interview. I was in MCE so I was relatively early to arrive in the hall. I can't imagine how long the line took for those way in the back in Y.

It was a small room and there were no other empty desks for CBP agents. It looked like it was set up for just the 2-agent total arrangement.

After the final interview and you didn't check bags, you're directed through a door which is in fact the T4 building exit onto the World Way sidewalk located on the far northwest corner of the building on the arrivals level. No "meet and greet" area to speak of. I had friends meeting me and had to walk to the AA arrivals hall and re-enter the building to sneak up to my friends from behind who were waiting for me to emerge from the usual T4 arrivals tunnel.

It's all confusing.

Is this T4 one-CBP agent per APC and Global Entry line permanent?
See the post directly above yours
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Old Feb 10, 17, 1:11 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC View Post
See the post directly above yours
Ahh. Searched everything except the exact previous post. But I hope I've been able to provide some insight to LAX-arriving international pax as to what they can expect for perhaps the next several months, maybe longer. "Planned on being opened" doesn't necessarily define a time frame.
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