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NOTE: AA uses Terminals 4 and 5, the remote 摘agle痴 Nest and some gates at TBIT


Link to Los Angeles World Airports' LAX Airport website

NOTE: LAX is always undergoing changes; be aware the information herein may change. See here for LAWA notices affecting passengers.

Link LAWA / LAX FAQ page.

Link to aa.com


Link to 14 Feb 2017 post with AA-AA Minimum Times Times

NOTE: The Admirals Clubョ lounge and Flagship Lounge in Terminal 4 at Los Angeles International (LAX) are under renovations.

Special notice

AA operate from multiple terminals at LAX. Check in at Terminal 5, east end (Gates 50-59, including Remote American Eagle terminal, gates 52A-J) or Terminal 4 (Gates 40-49, 110-159)
. (As of 31 Jan 2017)

NOTE: the 100s gates are at the Tom Bradley International Air Terminal (aka Terminal B), accessible to / from Terminal 4 by the airside connector if you are already airside and security cleared.


[AA T-6 ops moved to T-5; other airline positioning to occur 12, 14 and 16 May 2017[/B]


Check-in times as of March 2016 Link

In most locations, you must be checked in:

At least 45 minutes before scheduled departure, for flights within the United States

At least 60 minutes before scheduled departure, for flights to or from airports outside of the United States
. Some non-US require more.

If you are checking in with baggage to check at T-4, not T-5, and flying American Eagle from the remote "Eagle's Nest" 52A-J gates (31 Jan 2017 and after), you must check in 90 minutes prior to departure.

LAYOUT: LAX is like a letter "U" on its side, open end facing right. The Tom Bradley International Terminal is the bar of the "U" facing left, on the west side. Terminals 1, 2 and 3 on the north and 4 - 8 on the south. Entering the semicircular, counter-clockwise roadway serving the terminals, you will pass terminals 1, 2, 3, TBIT, 4, 5, 6, etc. There is quite a bit of construction going on and the airport roadways can get quite congested.

MCT: Though international to International or Domestic Minimum Connect Times (MCT) are listed as 2:00, arriving at the remote western 200 pads and gates (served by busses from the terminals), connecting between T4, T6, Remote Eagle terminal and TBIT, not to mention lengthy USCBP queues and the need to proceed landslide to connecting terminals and processing security may make 2:00 unrealistic at times. MCT Domestic to Domestic or International is often 0:40, but this may be unrealistic if connecting American Eagle remote terminal 52A-J and a domestic flight at TBIT, for example.

Operating terminals and gates

Terminal 4: AA primarily uses Terminal 4, Gates 40-49 but now also uses Terminal 5 (50-59, 52A-I remote Eagle gates and TBIT (110-159). Flagship Checkin, Admirals Club and Flagship Lounge are all in T-4.


Tom Bradley International Terminal ("100") gates 110-159 for domestic and international flights, with no particular flight assignment - check your gates information.

oneworld Business and Qantas First lounges in TBIT for qualified passengers. See LOUNGE DASHBOARD for further information - link.

Occasionally, the "200 gates" remote pads (bus from T-4) may be used. Terminal 4 and TBIT are connected airside by a new connector. Qualified travelers may use the TBIT oneworld Business or Qantas First lounges. See separate thread.

Terminal 5 AS OF Tue 31 Jan 2017: Legacy US flights operate from Terminal 5, gates 50 - 59. It is best to check in for American Eagle flights at T-5. Airside connection exists, as well as shuttles. Bus port at T-5 is at gate 52. American Eagle checked baggage is delivered to Terminal 5 baggage carousels; Eagle remote gates are now numbered 52A-J.


Terminal 6: Alaska Airlines flights operate from Terminal 6.

Legacy US flights operated from Terminal 6 until 31 Jan 2017; AA no longer operates out of Terminal 6.

American Eagle Remote Terminal "Eagle's Nest": Regional flights operate at a remote terminal served frequently by airside shuttle busses from bus gates 44 and 60. The remote American Eagle terminal gate numeration has changed: "May 16 2016 the remote gates at LAX formerly 44 A-J were renumbered to 60 A-J." There is a "junior" Admirals Club here. Preferred Eagle check in and baggage carousels are in T-5?

While you may check in at T-4 for American Eagle, those with baggage to check must do so no less than 90 minutes prior to departure. The preferred baggage check deadline is in place at T-5 for American Eagle.

Walking Interterminal - Landside

Note: You can walk airside between Terminal 4 and TBIT as of 25 Feb 2016. See LAX Terminal 4 - Tom Bradley Intl Terminal Secure Connector), and on to T-5 via a corridor (ground floor, by bus gate 44).

One can also walk landside between terminals on upper or lower walkway sidewalks just outside the roadway. Lower walkways are protected from the weather, upper walkways are not. Distances can be short (T-4 <-> TBIT) or long (20 minutes or less in all cases, and there are crosswalks and walkways serving north and south terminals. See north - south blue corridors in Ground Transport map, above; walkways parallel them.

For access to the Tom Bradley International Terminal ("TBIT") one may also proceed landslide and walk a short distance, or take the counter clockwise landside courtesy airport shuttle bus.

Originally Posted by QueenOfCoach
Here is a graphic I made from a Google Earth Streetview screenshot that shows how close T4 is to TBIT. It's a two-minute walk. One minute if you are fast.

Link to fullsize map


Airside - Shuttle Bus or Walking

Airside shuttle busses:

NO BUS T-4 <-> T-5 (faster to walk pedestrian tunnel)
T-4 <-> Remote Eagle terminal (most efficient and frequent)
T-5 <-> Remote Eagle terminal (more frequent than from / to T-4)

Terminals 4 and 5: A courtesy shuttle bus operates airside between Terminal 4, ex-gate 44 bus gate, and Terminal 6 gate 60-62 through Mon 30 Jan 2017 - afterwards, Terminal gate 52, every fifteen minutes between 05:00 and 23:00; ongoing boarding pass required. At other times one either take the airside corridor T-5 Tue 31 Jan and after <-> T-4 or exit landslide and walk or take the counter-clockwise landslide courtesy shuttle bus.

American Eagle Remote Terminal: A courtesy shuttle bus serves the American Eagle remote terminal from Terminal 5, gate 52. Note: American Eagle checked baggage is delivered to Terminal 5 baggage carousels. Another shuttle runs from Terminal 4, gate 44 bus gate. A boarding pass to Gate 52A-I is required. This is the sole way of reaching these gates (other than Five Star Service passengers, who are shuttled via the Tarmac in Cadillac SUVs).

Terminal 4 - TBIT: The new pedestrian airside connector opened 25 Feb 2015. Qantas and AA passengers departing the TBIT can check in at Terminal 4, process airside, use Admirals or Flagship lounges T-4 <-> TBIT shuttles apparently ended when the airside connector open 25 Feb 2016[/hl].

Walk Terminals 4 and 5: One can walk airside using the Terminal 4 - 5 - 6 connector.

Walk Terminal 4 - TBIT airside connector: An airside connector leading to TBIT is open effective 25 Feb 2016. See here (FT) for more.


Getting from terminal to terminal, concourse to concourse, landside

Landside courtesy airport shuttle bus
  • "A" line buses: Transports passengers between terminals. "A" route operates 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and runs every 10 minutes (counter clockwise)

  • "C" line buses: Transports passengers to and from Parking Lot C. Travelers can walk to the LAX City Bus Center from Lot C. "C" route operates 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and runs every 10 to 15 minutes.

  • "G" line busses: Transports passengers with a valid TAP card to and from the Metro Green Line Aviation Station. Service is aligned with the rail schedule. To view, please go to www.metro.net . Click here for Green line Boarding Procedures (PDF document). TAP card is not required when taking the G Bus from LAX to the Aviation Metro Station.

  • Use this link for a real time map display of shuttle bus locations and movements.

  • Rental car company busses: transport passengers between terminals and car rental facilities.

Ground Transportation stops / pickups at LAX

NOTE: Rental, hotel shuttle, ワber, etc. stops are in front of each terminal on the arrivals / lower level at the island crossing the first lanes of traffic.


Security at LAX

Link to FlyerGuide information on LAX T-4 Security.

TSA PreCheck: Yes (Terminal 4 upstairs, east; Terminal 5?)

Priority Access line in a Terminal 4 is accessed from the escalator on the left end (looking at the counters) of the terminal (furthest from TBIT, closest to terminal 5), next to the Priority Access check-in area. Often there is an AA worker at the bottom of the escalator making sure only Priority Access passengers go up this escalator. The First, Business and Priority Access lines now have their own screening room far from the economy area. This private room has multiple screening lines and during peak periods additional lines are opened up.

Security for (TBIT) international arrivals proceeding to Terminal 4 is open as of February 2017. When exiting TBIT customs and baggage recheck area, turn right immediately after the exit and proceed down the hallway to the checkpoint. No Pre-Check.


Check-in and ticketing at LAX and check in times Link

Flagship Check-in: YES Marked exclusive T-4 Flagship check-in entrance 4:00 a.m. 1:00 a.m.

Five Star Service: YES

Priority and Preferred Access: YES

Curbside check-in: Yes. Terminal 4 only, including for international destinations.

Minimum time for checking in and arriving at the gate at LAX

Minimum time to check baggage

To help us get your bag on the same flight with you, present your bag to an airline representative for check-in no later than the cutoff time.

For flights within and between the U.S., Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands:
  • Check bags at least 45 minutes prior to scheduled departure at LAX

For flights originating in airports outside the U.S. or flights departing the U.S. for an international destination:
  • Check bags at least 60 minutes prior to scheduled departure (90 if checking for Eagle at T-4 instead of T-5)

Time to baggage delivery: expect 0:30 or more.


Ticket counter locations

Terminal 4: upon entry, Qantas to right; First and Priority Access to left; Main Cabin straight ahead.
Self-service check-in kiosks available.
Open Daily: 04:00 - 00:30 (4 am to midnight + 30)

Terminal 5, east side: OPEN Tue 31 Jan 2017
Open Daily: 4:30 AM - 12:30 AM

Terminal 6: CLOSE Tue 31 Jan 2017
Open Daily: 4:30 AM - 12:30 AM

If departing on American Eagle, suggested check-in at T-5 Tue 31 Jan 2017 or after.


Minimum and reasonable connection and check-in times at LAX

See 20 May 2016 ExpertFlyer MCT listings here:
Originally Posted by serfty View Post
The MCT's for AA at LAX are a mess...
Q. What are minimum check-in time requirements at LAX?

AA requires arriving a minimum of 45 minutes prior to domestic departures if departing domestically (including Hawai'i, Puerto Rico and the U. S. Virgin Islands) if one has no baggage to check; 60 minutes if one must check baggage; and two hours prior to international departures.

Additionally, AA requires passengers be checked in at least 45 minutes prior to scheduled departure at LAX and "Arrive at the gate and be ready to board at least 15 minutes prior to domestic departure" and 30 minutes prior to international departure. Gates close to boarding 10 minutes prior to departure.

Q. What is the domestic to domestic or domestic to international Minimum Connection Time (MCT)?

The minimum connect time at LAX, domestic to domestic or international, is 0:40 minutes. International to domestic or international MCT is 2:00, but as mentioned previously, this may be insufficient. Note: MCT is generally not waived for international passengers arriving from USCBP pre-clearance airports.

See AA domestic to international MCT from ExpertFlyer Nov 2016 c/o Serfty here.

Q. If I am making an international to international connection, what is the process?

There is no international transit process in nearly all airports in the USA (DFW and MIA have a baggage exception for international to international). Arriving internationally, unless you have been pre-cleared, you must proceed through U. S. immigration (there are kiosks and a fast channel for Global Entry approved passengers), recover your baggage from the baggage carousel and proceed through U. S. Customs.

Upon exiting Customs at TBIT there is a bag drop facility; drop your checked baggage, exit to the landside arrivals area. Pre-cleared passengers arriving at TBIT will bypass USCBP (but most airlines will enforce international to domestic MCT nonetheless).

ALL arrivals are forced landside (you may pass back through security at the TBIT end of the T-4 - TBIT connector) and Terminal 4 is a short walk to your right, Terminal 6 farther; one can board courtesy airport "A" busses and be dropped off very shortly at T-4 or T-5.

NOTE: Whilst most international Arrivals process immigration and customs at TBIT, some arriving at T-4 may walk a long underground passage and process formalities at TBIT. Others may process at T-4, but if you arrive with bags those will be available at TBIT.

There is no Arrivals Loinge for AA or oneworld customers at LAX.

Q. What is AA policy if I have separate tickets and my incoming flight is delayed?

Protection for oneworld world customers travelling on separate bookings:
oneworld Global Support

Your oneworld connection is generally not officially protected, but the airline may help you and put you on the next available flight, and AA does generally protect oneworld connections at this time..

If your flights are on the same PNR:

Connecting between airlines at unfamiliar airports can be a stressful experience, especially if your flight is delayed. American Airlines recognizes the impact delays and missed connections can have on your plans and on your life. That is why we partnered with the other oneworld member airlines to form teams of connection experts: oneworld Global Support.

At select airports across the oneworld alliance network, teams are proactively monitoring connecting flights and, whenever possible, they will meet and assist you if your connection is in jeopardy. The oneworld Global Support teams will do their best to allow you to use dedicated fast track lanes through immigration or security to help you catch your next flight. Our teams will also do everything possible to transfer your baggage so that it makes it on time to your final destination.

If you miss your connecting flight, the oneworld Global Support team will provide you with updated travel information, a new boarding pass and, where applicable, assistance with overnight accommodations.

oneworld Global Support is currently available at Chicago O'Hare, Dallas/Fort Worth, London Heathrow, Los Angeles, Madrid-Barajas, Miami, New York JFK and Sydney. The service is offered at these airports whenever possible, subject to operational constraints.
See:
oneworld not requiring protection or interline baggage 1 Jun 2016; AA policy
Q. Can I check my baggage through?

If you're connecting within the oneworld alliance or airlines with an interline agreement and your connection is under eleven hours, all segments on the same PNR, probably. If over that or with separate PNRs (even within oneworld) airlines without an interline agreements with AA or on separate tickets connecting with non-oneworld airlines, no.

See oneworld not requiring protection or interline baggage 1 Jun 2016; AA policy.

Q. Is there baggage storage at LAX?

No. Since 9/11 most USA airports have eliminated baggage storage, but you can use a baggage storage firm that will pick up, store and return your baggage. You do not have to pre-book, and they are open 24/7: http://www.laxluggagestorage.com. There are $5 pickup, $5 return and storage charges.


WiFi at LAX:

"Internet Access at Los Angeles LAX Airport. LAX Airport offers free internet access, with paid upgrades: Free Wi-Fi service for up to 44 minutes is available in most of the public areas of the Airport - provided by Advanced Wireless Group."

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Other resources
  • Link to AA FAQ: Will I make my connection?
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Old May 20, 16, 11:01 am
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Originally Posted by bakaneko85 View Post
I'm pretty sure that my flight for this leg isn't an American Eagle flight as i'm booked in F- as far as i remember all eagles flight i took were a single class flights in CRJ!
The CRJ-700 and CRJ-900, and the ERJ 170 and ERJ 175, which are used by American Eagle, have First Class (and MCE).
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Originally Posted by txflyer77 View Post
They were closed on Sunday. Signage didn't make it clear if that was temporary or permanent.
Well, that's a bit of a problem. Thanks very much. Is the elevator for the tunnel the same to get to the bus ports, or is the bus route from T-6 to T-4 achievable with a wheelchair?
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Old May 20, 16, 1:29 pm
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Originally Posted by bakaneko85 View Post
Thanks! I guess i'll check in and try to see the queue at T6 first. I'm pretty sure that my flight for this leg isn't an American Eagle flight as i'm booked in F- as far as i remember all eagles flight i took were a single class flights in CRJ!
I recently flew PHX-LAX in an American Eagle RJ in First. Check your flight number for departure gate information. (The Eagle gates have recently been renumbered from 44A-I to 60A-I because Eagle carousels are in T-6 now and because AA is trying to move some passenger traffic from the more heavily used T-4 to T-6.)
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Old May 20, 16, 2:26 pm
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Originally Posted by lkar View Post
Well, that's a bit of a problem. Thanks very much. Is the elevator for the tunnel the same to get to the bus ports, or is the bus route from T-6 to T-4 achievable with a wheelchair?
There are other elevators, but some may be outside the secured areas.

The safest thing to do is to contact AA and request disability assistance.
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Have a business class award to Australia in November, SJC-LAX-SYD outbound, MEL-SYD-LAX-SJC on the return.

Does anyone know if AA72 and AA73 fly in and out of TBIT?

Which terminal does the American Eagle flights between SJC and LAX fly out of?

I have a 1 hour connection on the outbound so I wonder if I have to make a long trek between the domestic flight and the LAX-SYD flight (AA73).

On the return, it's a 4-hour connection at LAX. So plenty of time to make the connection but more interested which lounge in which to spend that time.

If AA72 parks at TBIT, would it make sense to go to the lounge there than whatever lounge they might have at the terminal where the LAX-SJC flight would board? Presumably newer and nicer facilities at TBIT but if it's a trek to the other terminal and the possibility of a queue to go through security again (LAX-SJC flight is at 11 AM on a Wednesday), then it might be better to be closer to the gate where the flight will board.
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Old May 20, 16, 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by wco81 View Post
Which terminal does the American Eagle flights between SJC and LAX fly out of?
American Eagle flights operate out of the Remote Terminal. Take a look at the Wikipost at the top of the page for additional information.
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Old May 20, 16, 7:30 pm
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Originally Posted by wco81 View Post
Have a business class award to Australia in November, SJC-LAX-SYD outbound, MEL-SYD-LAX-SJC on the return.

Does anyone know if AA72 and AA73 fly in and out of TBIT?

Which terminal does the American Eagle flights between SJC and LAX fly out of?

I have a 1 hour connection on the outbound so I wonder if I have to make a long trek between the domestic flight and the LAX-SYD flight (AA73).

On the return, it's a 4-hour connection at LAX. So plenty of time to make the connection but more interested which lounge in which to spend that time.

If AA72 parks at TBIT, would it make sense to go to the lounge there than whatever lounge they might have at the terminal where the LAX-SJC flight would board? Presumably newer and nicer facilities at TBIT but if it's a trek to the other terminal and the possibility of a queue to go through security again (LAX-SJC flight is at 11 AM on a Wednesday), then it might be better to be closer to the gate where the flight will board.
Please read the wikipost at the top of the thread.

There, you will read about AA owning four gates at TBIT. Your flight, as mentioned previously, can leave T-4 or TBIT.

Your RJ from SJC, as mentioned previously, will arrive and depart Gates 60A-I, in the remote Eagles Nest terminal, connected to T-4 and T-6 by airside shuttle bus (specifics including map in wikipost, though still labeled "44A-J").

If your flight departs TBIT, (see wikipost) there is an airside connector (no need for extra security screening) between Terminal 4 and TBIT once you're airside.

One hour is an extremely tight connection from 60A-I to a once daily long haul flight. Your flight, whether at the 40s or 100 (TBIT) gates will begin boarding 45 minutes (or more) prior to departure. If your SJC flight is at all delayed you risk losing your seat T-30 and your flight if you arrive T-10~15. (If there are Business seats, you will be reaccommodated on the next flight; if not, you may have to fly in coach or wait longer.)

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...-check-t6.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...eb-2016-a.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...eb-2016-a.html
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Thanks.

Ugh, looks like a long slog between that Remote Terminal and TBIT.

I never looked for the airside shuttles at LAX. I think once I took the regular LAX bus and then after that, just walked as fast as I could, usually pushing the luggage cart, between terminals.

I also wonder about the connector between terminals 4 and 6. Is that behind the counters or something? It looked like the only way to get between terminals by walking was on the sidewalks. But that may have been more for DL and Skyteam flights, which operate out of different terminals.
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Originally Posted by wco81 View Post
Thanks.

Ugh, looks like a long slog between that Remote Terminal and TBIT.

I never looked for the airside shuttles at LAX. I think once I took the regular LAX bus and then after that, just walked as fast as I could, usually pushing the luggage cart, between terminals.

I also wonder about the connector between terminals 4 and 6. Is that behind the counters or something? It looked like the only way to get between terminals by walking was on the sidewalks. But that may have been more for DL and Skyteam flights, which operate out of different terminals.
Please use the links I provided in the post immediately prior to yours. There have been significant changes, such as the T-4 <-> T-6 connector (though I'm unsure why you'd use that at all, rather than the Eagles Nest <-> T-4 shuttle), and the short T-4 <-> TBIT airside connector.

The airside connector thread, for example, has members' experiences showing T-4 to TBIT airside is well under ten minutes. A link to an article by IceTrojan in the thread and the wikipost at the top of the thread leads to a very good article that include photos and a video with very specific instructions.

The connector to T-6 is at ground floor at Gate 44, where the shuttle buses (listed in the wikipost here) also depart from.
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Old May 20, 16, 8:00 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver View Post
One hour is an extremely tight connection from 60A-I to a once daily long haul flight. Your flight, whether at the 40s or 100 (TBIT) gates will begin boarding 45 minutes (or more) prior to departure. If your SJC flight is at all delayed you risk losing your seat T-30 and your flight if you arrive T-10~15. (If there are Business seats, you will be reaccommodated on the next flight; if not, you may have to fly in coach or wait longer.)
Well it's moot now.

Turns out they changed the SJC-LAX segment on me, from a 6:58 departure to a 3:55 departure. As a result, I have a 4-hour layover instead of a 1-hour layover.

I logged on to my account and it shows the change. When I called in, they said it was changed but that I could call back between now and November to see if I there is availability on the 6:58 flight.

But then the agent said that 1-hour connection may be too short. Well then why does aa.com even have that as a choice?

I had to approve the change to an earlier flight, though I really have no choice, other than to redeposit the miles.
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Originally Posted by TWA884 View Post
The CRJ-700 and CRJ-900, and the ERJ 170 and ERJ 175, which are used by American Eagle, have First Class (and MCE).
Originally Posted by JDiver View Post
I recently flew PHX-LAX in an American Eagle RJ in First. Check your flight number for departure gate information. (The Eagle gates have recently been renumbered from 44A-I to 60A-I because Eagle carousels are in T-6 now and because AA is trying to move some passenger traffic from the more heavily used T-4 to T-6.)
I stand corrected! Anyway, tried to check the gate of the flight, but seems like it's not a regular flight or something as the same flight no (aa659) is showing a different route altogether. But i'm pretty sure it'll be an aa flight as the aircraft is a 321...
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Originally Posted by bakaneko85 View Post
I stand corrected! Anyway, tried to check the gate of the flight, but seems like it's not a regular flight or something as the same flight no (aa659) is showing a different route altogether. But i'm pretty sure it'll be an aa flight as the aircraft is a 321...
AA659 shows currently as CMH-LAX as an A319. Regardless, for now LUS A319 or A321 would most likely depart Terminal 6 / Gates 60-63. (LAA A321-200s all show as "32B" on schedules, whether they're three class A321T, or two class A321S or ETIPS A321H aircraft.)

Safe and uncomplicated trip!
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Old May 20, 16, 9:08 pm
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Originally Posted by wco81 View Post
Well it's moot now.

Turns out they changed the SJC-LAX segment on me, from a 6:58 departure to a 3:55 departure. As a result, I have a 4-hour layover instead of a 1-hour layover.

I logged on to my account and it shows the change. When I called in, they said it was changed but that I could call back between now and November to see if I there is availability on the 6:58 flight.

But then the agent said that 1-hour connection may be too short. Well then why does aa.com even have that as a choice?

I had to approve the change to an earlier flight, though I really have no choice, other than to redeposit the miles.
aa.com lists MCT (minimum connection times) that reflect ideal conditions, rather than what may be real world conditions. E.g. Chicago MCT are fine if the weather is, but if it's not, MCT goes out the window. Those 450 connecting passengers Monday night who missed their flights and spent the night on cots in the public areas at ORD due to TSA slowness found that out.

At LAX, things got complicated when AA spread to T-6 after the AA-US merger and more recently gained four gates at TBIT.

Anyway, more time for the lounge. Enough time to go to the TBIT and get a leisrely breakfast in the oneworld lounge even if you depart T-4, and no security queues to deal with..
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The MCT's for AA at LAX are a mess.

I can't work out if a 60 minute connection AA6052 flight to AA73 after Jun 2nd meets MCT or not!
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Minimum Connect Times:
Connecting at LAX
Incoming airline AA
Outgoing airline AA
Flight type Domestic to International

STANDARD.D/D...D/I...I/D...I/I.
ONLINE   1.10  1.30  2.00  2.00
OFFLINE  1.10  1.30  2.00  2.00
** OR * ARE ALL
AA-AA DI  1.10 FLT 7409 - FLT 7409 JFK - BNE 
AA-AA DI  1.10 FLT 7409 - FLT 7356 JFK - MEL 
AA-AA DI  1.30 FLT 7295 - 7423 - FLT 7295 - 7423 JFK - ALL 
AA-AA DI SUP   FLT    1 - 2754 - FLT 7211 - 7238 ALL - PVG 
AA-AA DI SUP   FLT 7295 - 7423 - FLT    1 - 7294 JFK - ALL 
AA-AA DI SUP   FLT 7295 - 7423 - FLT 7424 - 9099 JFK - ALL 
AA-AA DI SUP   FLT    1 - 9099 - FLT    1 - 9099 
  CANADA - CANADA  
AA-AA DI  2.00 FLT    1 - 6099 - FLT 7295 - 7423 
  CANADA - ALL   
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT    1 - 2754 - FLT    1 - 6099 TRM 6  - 4  
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT    1 - 2754 - FLT    1 - 2754 
  OPN    -02JUN16 
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT    1 - 2754 - FLT 2755 - 6099 
  OPN    -02JUN16 
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 2755 - 6099 - FLT    1 - 2754 
  OPN    -02JUN16 
AA-AA DI   .35 FLT 2755 - 6099 - FLT 2755 - 6099 
  OPN    -02JUN16 
AA-AA DI  1.30 FLT    1 - 2754 - FLT 6100 - 7161 
AA-AA DI  1.30 FLT    1 - 2754 - FLT 7211 - 9099 
AA-AA DI  2.00 FLT    1 - 6099 - FLT 7162 - 7166 
AA-AA DI  1.30 FLT    1 - 6099 - FLT 7171 - 7180 
AA-AA DI  1.30 FLT    1 - 6099 - FLT 8104 - 8253 
AA-AA DI  1.30 FLT 2755 - 6099 - FLT 6100 - 6779 
AA-AA DI  1.45 FLT 2755 - 6099 - FLT 6780 - 7161 
AA-AA DI  1.30 FLT 2755 - 6099 - FLT 7211 - 7453 
AA-AA DI  1.45 FLT 2755 - 6099 - FLT 7454 - 7637 
AA-AA DI  1.30 FLT 2755 - 6099 - FLT 7638 - 9099 
AA-AA DI  1.30 FLT 2755 - 6099 - FLT 9022 - 9044 
AA-AA DI  1.30 FLT 6780 - 7161 - FLT    1 - 2754 
AA-AA DI  1.45 FLT 6780 - 7161 - FLT 2755 - 6099 
AA-AA DI  1.30 FLT 6780 - 7161 - FLT 7295 - 7423 
AA-AA DI  1.30 FLT 7454 - 7637 - FLT    1 - 2754 
AA-AA DI  1.45 FLT 7454 - 7637 - FLT 2755 - 6099 
AA-AA DI  1.30 FLT 7454 - 7637 - FLT 7295 - 7423 
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT 2755 - 3769 - FLT 2755 - 3769 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 2755 - 3769 - FLT 3770 - 4144 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT 2755 - 3769 - FLT 4145 - 4699 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 2755 - 3769 - FLT 4700 - 5609 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT 2755 - 3769 - FLT 5610 - 6099 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 3770 - 4144 - FLT 2755 - 3769 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT 3770 - 4144 - FLT 3770 - 4144 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 3770 - 4144 - FLT 4145 - 4699 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT 3770 - 4144 - FLT 4700 - 5609 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 3770 - 4144 - FLT 5610 - 6099 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT 4145 - 4699 - FLT 2755 - 3769 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 4145 - 4699 - FLT 3770 - 4144 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT 4145 - 4699 - FLT 4145 - 4699 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 4145 - 4699 - FLT 4700 - 5609 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT 4145 - 4699 - FLT 5610 - 6099 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 4700 - 5609 - FLT 2755 - 3769 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT 4700 - 5609 - FLT 3770 - 4144 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 4700 - 5609 - FLT 4145 - 4699 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT 4700 - 5609 - FLT 4700 - 5609 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 4700 - 5609 - FLT 5610 - 6099 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT 5610 - 6099 - FLT 2755 - 3769 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 5610 - 6099 - FLT 3770 - 4144 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT 5610 - 6099 - FLT 4145 - 4699 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 5610 - 6099 - FLT 4700 - 5609 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT 5610 - 6099 - FLT 5610 - 6099 
  03JUN16-04JUL16 
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT    1 -  399 - FLT    1 -  399 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT    1 -  399 - FLT  400 -  899 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT    1 -  399 - FLT  900 - 1629 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT    1 -  399 - FLT 1630 - 2174 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT    1 -  399 - FLT 2175 - 2754 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT  400 -  899 - FLT    1 -  399 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT  400 -  899 - FLT  400 -  899 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT  400 -  899 - FLT  900 - 1629 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT  400 -  899 - FLT 1630 - 2174 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT  400 -  899 - FLT 2175 - 2754 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT  900 - 1629 - FLT    1 -  399 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT  900 - 1629 - FLT  400 -  899 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT  900 - 1629 - FLT  900 - 1629 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT  900 - 1629 - FLT 1630 - 2174 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT  900 - 1629 - FLT 2175 - 2754 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 1630 - 2174 - FLT    1 -  399 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 1630 - 2174 - FLT  400 -  899 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 1630 - 2174 - FLT  900 - 1629 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 1630 - 2174 - FLT 1630 - 2174 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 1630 - 2174 - FLT 2175 - 2754 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT 2175 - 2754 - FLT    1 -  399 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 2175 - 2754 - FLT  400 -  899 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT 2175 - 2754 - FLT  900 - 1629 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 2175 - 2754 - FLT 1630 - 2174 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .40 FLT 2175 - 2754 - FLT 2175 - 2754 
  03JUN16-INF     
AA-AA DI   .45 FLT 2755 - 6099 - FLT 2755 - 6099 
  05JUL16-INF     
AA-AA DI SUP   FLT 6100 - 9099 - FLT 6100 - 9099 
AA-AA DI SUP   FLT 8104 - 8253 - FLT    1 - 6099 
AA-AA DI  2.00 ALL  - FLT 7295 - 7423 CANADA - ALL   
AA-** DI SUP   FLT 6100 - 9099 - ALL

Last edited by serfty; May 20, 16 at 10:06 pm
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Old Jun 6, 16, 10:33 am
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AA schedule changes mean that I now have 54 minutes between HNL-LAX and LAX-JFK. This in early August. Arrive at 0606, depart at 0700. MCT appears to be 40 minutes, so I am over that, but I am nonetheless worried. Do they arrive and depart at the same terminal (I am assuming 4)?

I will probably have hold luggage, even if I make it will the bag likely make it?
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