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no1cub17 Feb 20, 2019 12:25 pm

Any insight into AA123 DFW-HNL on 2/28? Was J7I7W7 this morning, down to J5I2W2. Am I safe to think PEY is oversold and they're holding back J seats to accommodate upgrades? There are still plenty of unassigned seats in J - I know they could be taken by J pax without seat assignments but I'd find that odd on a Hawaii route. Fingers crossed!

OutOfORD Feb 20, 2019 5:54 pm

Any thoughts on upgrade odds CLT-LHR? 2 weeks out EF shows J7 with 11 unassigned seats. Gold now (but plat at time of booking and request) with pretty low rolling EQD.

Thanks in advance.

beachfan Feb 20, 2019 9:04 pm

I’m guessing OGG-DFW is a tough upgrade in the flight with lie flat seats. I’m going in business to HNL, and wanted to spend the weekend on Maui or Kauai.

I’d likely retiurn on a Monday in November. I had originally planned on Kauai, and got an Anytime return (Lih-lax-Mia) on a Sunday for 55k for my wife. Figured I’d use an SWU or pay to go from Y to J. Then I realized OGG-DFW is a lie flat, so was thinking about switching- but with the new anytime rates, it’s 87.5k on a Monday and 110k on a Sunday (one way). So I’m wondering if the SWU has a shot.

infinite97 Feb 21, 2019 4:53 am

Question about EF and upgrades...I see the below for my flight Saturday and am wondering why I’m not already upgraded. I thought C inventory meant basically immediate upgrade? Definitely within the 100 hour window. (It’s the first flight listed, btw)
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...cc1da6ce07.png

iadisgreat Feb 21, 2019 5:11 am


Originally Posted by infinite97 (Post 30804631)
Question about EF and upgrades...I see the below for my flight Saturday and am wondering why I’m not already upgraded. I thought C inventory meant basically immediate upgrade? Definitely within the 100 hour window. (It’s the first flight listed, btw)
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...cc1da6ce07.png

If you're talking about 100 hours then you mean a 500 mile upgrade - those come from R which you can't check.

infinite97 Feb 21, 2019 6:29 am

yes, just my standard EXP upgrades. Okay, I didn't know they came from a different class. C is just cheap award / SWU, then, right?

edit: not sure why I can't delete this, meant to "quick respond" to [MENTION=9732]iadisgreat[/MENTION].

iadisgreat Feb 21, 2019 9:01 am


Originally Posted by infinite97 (Post 30804816)
yes, just my standard EXP upgrades. Okay, I didn't know they came from a different class. C is just cheap award / SWU, then, right?

edit: not sure why I can't delete this, meant to "quick respond" to [MENTION=9732]iadisgreat[/MENTION].

C is SWU or Miles and co-pay.

Nile_US Feb 21, 2019 10:53 pm

Mine is oversold. 4 spots available in business and almost 10 people on the list. I have no chance of clearing, according to the AA person who checked my chances at the lounge. Oh well. I better drink some more wine before boarding! ;)

ermeg Feb 22, 2019 8:22 am

Any insight into LAX - AKL SWU? I'm EXP and would be flying on a Thursday in Nov. Route is non-stop as well, so I'm weary that it'll actually clear :(

metallo Feb 22, 2019 3:23 pm


Originally Posted by AANYC1981 (Post 30793002)
I’m loving upgrades on award tickets.....MEX-DFW-LGA all cleared well in advance and with a rather last minute booking.

It really is the best feature of the "new" AAdvantage... I'm paying more overall with buying paid F/J and of course the EQD requirement, but occasionally strategically buying a one way domestic award for 8,750 miles with the Citi reduced mileage discount and having the upgrades clear at T-100 is pretty nice. Works best on traditionally higher priced routes that are not elite heavy.

ait109 Feb 25, 2019 12:35 am


Originally Posted by Daniel Solis (Post 30800309)
Same for me.I flew lax-hkg on the 17th. 24 hours before departure there was 20 seats and t-8 there was 6 open seats but i cleared shortly before t-4

Last year I was upgraded to J several days before my HKG-LAX leg. However on the day of the flight, the inbound flight from DFW was severely delayed. The delay kept changing from a 1 AM departure (next day) all the way to an 11 AM departure (next day). I was then automatically offered to be rebooked on the next day departure through DFW (in J). I called EXP desk and asked for any flight options that left that day. I was told that if I elected, I could take the DFW flight in a middle Y seat which I declined. I told them to keep my existing seat on the LAX flight the next morning. I then went to ask the HKG servicing company for a hotel room for the night. At which time they presented me (and several others who were in line) with tickets on a CX flight to SFO departing in the next 45 minutes, in J !! (with also a domestic connection on United, in F) which got me home around the same time as my original flight.

When I spoke with EXP desk a few days later for a different matter I inquired about getting seated in J vs Y on the CX flight. I was told that once the SWU clears, you have a J ticket and if you need to be put on a different airline, they must put you in the equivalent cabin.

So, I am thinking (as I write this I am on the upgrade waitlist for AA192 on 2/27) that since this flight, if there is a delay, could be a major delay, they would rather not have to deal with a whole bunch of J pax that need to be accommodated. So if they delay the upgrade until they know for sure the flight has a strong likelihood of leaving relatively on time, they they can save a themselves a lot of hassle by keeping lower-cost options open.

econometrics Feb 25, 2019 7:48 am


Originally Posted by ait109 (Post 30818301)
When I spoke with EXP desk a few days later for a different matter I inquired about getting seated in J vs Y on the CX flight. I was told that once the SWU clears, you have a J ticket and if you need to be put on a different airline, they must put you in the equivalent cabin.

So, I am thinking (as I write this I am on the upgrade waitlist for AA192 on 2/27) that since this flight, if there is a delay, could be a major delay, they would rather not have to deal with a whole bunch of J pax that need to be accommodated. So if they delay the upgrade until they know for sure the flight has a strong likelihood of leaving relatively on time, they they can save a themselves a lot of hassle by keeping lower-cost options open.

Maybe, who knows. My SWU HKG-DFW cleared around 28h before departure a few weeks ago. around T24, the flight did the same thing as you mentioned here... delayed until the next morning at 7am (vs. 3:45pm departure). I immediately called with specific flights I wanted on CX via LAX and they rebooked us into an I fare. Got the EQM for I and not W, too. And they didn't take out an SWU. I don't think the system had enough time to fully process it out of my account before we changed flights. :)

Finsup72 Feb 25, 2019 9:21 am


Originally Posted by econometrics (Post 30819262)
Maybe, who knows. My SWU HKG-DFW cleared around 28h before departure a few weeks ago. around T24, the flight did the same thing as you mentioned here... delayed until the next morning at 7am (vs. 3:45pm departure). I immediately called with specific flights I wanted on CX via LAX and they rebooked us into an I fare. Got the EQM for I and not W, too. And they didn't take out an SWU. I don't think the system had enough time to fully process it out of my account before we changed flights. :)

Hmm, when I experienced IRROPs on my flight to Tokyo (upgraded from W to J with SWU), I asked AA to put me on a CX flight via HKG since it was the only flight option available would still get me into TYO on the same day. I was told since the ticket was upgraded using a SWU, AA could only rebook me in J on AA-operated flights. I've seen on FT that this is agent dependent, but does anyone have insight into whether customers are technically allowed to be rebooked in J on partner airlines if originally upgraded via a SWU?

jljones78 Feb 25, 2019 9:47 am


Originally Posted by Finsup72 (Post 30819600)
Hmm, when I experienced IRROPs on my flight to Tokyo (upgraded from W to J with SWU), I asked AA to put me on a CX flight via HKG since it was the only flight option available would still get me into TYO on the same day. I was told since the ticket was upgraded using a SWU, AA could only rebook me in J on AA-operated flights. I've seen on FT that this is agent dependent, but does anyone have insight into whether customers are technically allowed to be rebooked in J on partner airlines if originally upgraded via a SWU?

It happened to a friend of mine earlier this month. Original routing was LAX-HKG on AA metal, upgraded from Y to J on an SWU, cleared T-24. Flight went mx and cancelled, they rebooked him in J on CX out of SFO. I think it's highly agent dependent.

enviroian Feb 25, 2019 9:59 am

I just cleared for Friday afternoon DFW-DTW.

I noticed my new seat assignment is labeled "business" as opposed to "first". Now I know when I fly DFW-MEX it says business as that is what AA markets it is but I thought pure domestic legs were still called "first".


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