Pricing Out of CLT has gotten out of hand
Jan 4, 2019, 7:24 am
#16
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Thanks again
Jan 4, 2019, 7:39 am
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Same deal ex-ATL to pretty much anywhere in Europe. I've been shaken down for over $3K for non-premium economy to FRA on Delta 2 summers ago. Going to JFK first would have saved me probably $1800-2000, but it was for work and I wasn't the one paying ultimately.
Mrs. GlobeTrttr and I are probably going to spend a week-ish in Europe some time this coming summer. I'm seriously considering booking two separate itineraries with the TATL leg originating at JFK or ORD and just heading up that way in the morning with several hours in between legs. CLT is as well-connected as ATL to those markets with plenty of opportunities to arrive well before your TATL flight departs, should you choose to do it that way.
Mrs. GlobeTrttr and I are probably going to spend a week-ish in Europe some time this coming summer. I'm seriously considering booking two separate itineraries with the TATL leg originating at JFK or ORD and just heading up that way in the morning with several hours in between legs. CLT is as well-connected as ATL to those markets with plenty of opportunities to arrive well before your TATL flight departs, should you choose to do it that way.
Jan 4, 2019, 9:40 am
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Thanks everyone - the reality of market to market pricing and dealing with hubs! Felt guilty for about 3 seconds for 'cheating' the system, but got over it. Though would be interesting to look at the analytics with similar non-competitive (80/20 one carrier) hubs like IAH or maybe even DFW/ATL to see the price distortion? Just wondering if the industry is encouraging hidden city and folks like us to try and beat the system.
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Jan 4, 2019, 9:42 am
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Jan 4, 2019, 9:43 am
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Pricing out of CLT has officially gotten out of hand by AA - NYC to CDG via CLT priced at $363 std econ , same dates on the same flights within previous itin CLT-CDG prices at $1,400 (4/7-4/16). How are you not encouraging hidden city ticketing when it is that much. I know the NYC market is brutally competitive, but someone in RM at AA is not paying much attention to the CLT-originating passengers.
Jan 4, 2019, 10:46 am
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Jan 4, 2019, 5:02 pm
#22
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It's not always a fortress hub premium. NYC and HOU are certainly competitive markets. The DOT's Consumer Airfare Report for 2q18 puts CLT's fare premium above Houston's but below NYC's. See Table 7. Of course they're looking at more than just one destination.
https://www.transportation.gov/sites...port2018q2.pdf
https://www.transportation.gov/sites...port2018q2.pdf
Jan 4, 2019, 6:00 pm
#23
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Is this a new thing?
Back before the US-AA merger, as a moderator in the US forum, I'd regularly see posts about crazy airfares from CLT.
A few years ago, my then-manager asked me to check airfares for AUS-CLT for a potential team meeting. AA is the only carrier that flies it nonstop, and the price was over $600 round-trip. A few months before, I had paid $635 to fly AUS-DFW-PEK.
I have family in northeastern PA, and regularly fly to AVP or ABE, and both options are usually around $350 for AUS-CLT-xxx. (as an aside, ABE is barely within the 500 mile range, but AVP is just over).
Back before the US-AA merger, as a moderator in the US forum, I'd regularly see posts about crazy airfares from CLT.
A few years ago, my then-manager asked me to check airfares for AUS-CLT for a potential team meeting. AA is the only carrier that flies it nonstop, and the price was over $600 round-trip. A few months before, I had paid $635 to fly AUS-DFW-PEK.
I have family in northeastern PA, and regularly fly to AVP or ABE, and both options are usually around $350 for AUS-CLT-xxx. (as an aside, ABE is barely within the 500 mile range, but AVP is just over).
Jan 7, 2019, 9:13 am
#24
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Is this a new thing?
Back before the US-AA merger, as a moderator in the US forum, I'd regularly see posts about crazy airfares from CLT.
A few years ago, my then-manager asked me to check airfares for AUS-CLT for a potential team meeting. AA is the only carrier that flies it nonstop, and the price was over $600 round-trip. A few months before, I had paid $635 to fly AUS-DFW-PEK.
I have family in northeastern PA, and regularly fly to AVP or ABE, and both options are usually around $350 for AUS-CLT-xxx. (as an aside, ABE is barely within the 500 mile range, but AVP is just over).
Back before the US-AA merger, as a moderator in the US forum, I'd regularly see posts about crazy airfares from CLT.
A few years ago, my then-manager asked me to check airfares for AUS-CLT for a potential team meeting. AA is the only carrier that flies it nonstop, and the price was over $600 round-trip. A few months before, I had paid $635 to fly AUS-DFW-PEK.
I have family in northeastern PA, and regularly fly to AVP or ABE, and both options are usually around $350 for AUS-CLT-xxx. (as an aside, ABE is barely within the 500 mile range, but AVP is just over).