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cblaisd Sep 26, 19 9:23 pm

Good evening!

Three newbie questions:

1) I have an itinerary I want to book in "G" (so I can apply a Business Extraa BXP1 upgrade certificate -- yes, there is currently "C" space) but currently the website defaults to a lower "S" fare. Is there a way to book the higher G fare online?

2) I'd also, if possible, like to use a $22 credit from a canceled ticket; any way to do that online (and if not, will I be charged a call center fee?)

3) If I purchase the itinerary in some fashion, do I have 24 hours to cancel?

Should I go ahead and book the S fare online, put it on 24 hour hold, and then call and ask to upfare to G and apply the previous ticket? (Fyi, the S fare is $167 and the G fare is $197)

Thanks!!

JJeffrey Sep 27, 19 6:11 am


Originally Posted by cblaisd (Post 31568357)
Good evening!

Three newbie questions:

1) I have an itinerary I want to book in "G" (so I can apply a Business Extraa BXP1 upgrade certificate -- yes, there is currently "C" space) but currently the website defaults to a lower "S" fare. Is there a way to book the higher G fare online?

2) I'd also, if possible, like to use a $22 credit from a canceled ticket; any way to do that online (and if not, will I be charged a call center fee?)

3) If I purchase the itinerary in some fashion, do I have 24 hours to cancel?

Should I go ahead and book the S fare online, put it on 24 hour hold, and then call and ask to upfare to G and apply the previous ticket? (Fyi, the S fare is $167 and the G fare is $197)

Thanks!!

There's no way to do it all online. Just put the S fare on hold, then call AA, tell them you want to upfare to G and also use the $22 credit.

cblaisd Sep 27, 19 1:11 pm


Originally Posted by JJeffrey (Post 31569312)
There's no way to do it all online. Just put the S fare on hold, then call AA, tell them you want to upfare to G and also use the $22 credit.

Thank you. Was fairly painless. And nice that you can now apply the BXP1 upgrades online.

Only hitch was that the CSR told me that my former ticket number actually had no value, contra what the Twitter team told me when I had to cancel the reservation.

wdwright Sep 28, 19 3:08 pm

EXP lounge suggestions PRG-PHL
 
Many thanks to flyingeph12 and gateH15 for the great Flagship lounge advice for our ORD - HEL flight earlier this month. Flying back PRG - PHL this Monday morning and was wondering what suggestions knowledgeable flyers would have for oneworld lounges at PRG. I'm an AA EXP and Admirals Club member.

JJeffrey Sep 28, 19 3:15 pm


Originally Posted by wdwright (Post 31573954)
Many thanks to flyingeph12 and gateH15 for the great Flagship lounge advice for our ORD - HEL flight earlier this month. Flying back PRG - PHL this Monday morning and was wondering what suggestions knowledgeable flyers would have for oneworld lounges at PRG. I'm an AA EXP and Admirals Club member.

There are no oneworld lounges at PRG, according to the oneworld website AA uses the Mastercard Lounge, so that will be your only option. Since this is a 3rd party lounge, make sure to ask for a lounge invitation when you check in at PRG (they should offer one, but just in case).

https://www.oneworld.com/airport-lounges?location=PRG

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...es-2019-a.html

lettezilla Sep 29, 19 4:51 am

Hi all, not sure if this is the right spot to post, but I'll give it a shot. I've booked LHR-DFW using Avios on the BA site, although it's AA metal. I've then logged on to AA, and paid cash to upgrade to MCE in both directions.

Now I need to change one or both of the flights. I *think* BA will let me change/cancel for a flat fee, and credit the avios. I believe that there aren't any refunds of the cash seat choice, but is there any way to move that paid seat credit to another flight? I'm guessing not, but hoping I'm not out the cash so would welcome any creative solutions or ideas.

Thanks in advance!

Seph87 Sep 29, 19 10:38 am

I am a UA mid-tier elite (50k-75k miles per year) who recently got a new job based out of LAX. This new job involves about 5-6 trips per year to Miami; 4-5 trips per year to NYC; 1-2 trips per year to London; 1-2 trips per year to South America (most likely Brazil and/or Chile). The LHR and South America trips will be in paid J but otherwise all flights will be economy. I also do a couple trips per year for leisure, mostly international with some domestic.

Based on the above, UA does not really have a great network out of LAX for me, so I will need to switch to either AA or DL. I am hoping someone with perspective on both airlines could give me some feedback. Here's what I've gathered so far based on internet research:

1) AA's network is clearly superior for my needs, offering non-stop to almost everywhere I need to go from LAX. Most (except JFK) would involve a connection on DL.
2) If I make it to Platinum Pro (which I should), AA's elite program is more rewarding than DL's
3) DL has better on-time statistics and service. I've read horror stories about AA's handling of irrops.

So based on all that, would you say #1 and #2 outweigh #3 in AA's favor? The internet has a way of blowing things out of proportion so I'm looking for a measured take on how AA's service compared to DL's. If service is comparable between the two I think it's pretty obvious to choose AA, but if DL's service is way better I might end up going with them despite having to connect.

guv1976 Sep 29, 19 11:45 am


Originally Posted by Seph87 (Post 31575884)
I am a UA mid-tier elite (50k-75k miles per year) who recently got a new job based out of LAX. This new job involves about 5-6 trips per year to Miami; 4-5 trips per year to NYC; 1-2 trips per year to London; 1-2 trips per year to South America (most likely Brazil and/or Chile). The LHR and South America trips will be in paid J but otherwise all flights will be economy. I also do a couple trips per year for leisure, mostly international with some domestic.

Based on the above, UA does not really have a great network out of LAX for me, so I will need to switch to either AA or DL. I am hoping someone with perspective on both airlines could give me some feedback. Here's what I've gathered so far based on internet research:

1) AA's network is clearly superior for my needs, offering non-stop to almost everywhere I need to go from LAX. Most (except JFK) would involve a connection on DL.
2) If I make it to Platinum Pro (which I should), AA's elite program is more rewarding than DL's
3) DL has better on-time statistics and service. I've read horror stories about AA's handling of irrops.

So based on all that, would you say #1 and #2 outweigh #3 in AA's favor? The internet has a way of blowing things out of proportion so I'm looking for a measured take on how AA's service compared to DL's. If service is comparable between the two I think it's pretty obvious to choose AA, but if DL's service is way better I might end up going with them despite having to connect.

Others will have to weigh in on how likely you are to be upgraded with status on the LAX-JFK/MIA routes. If upgrades are unlikely, you might pursue status with one of AA's oneworld partners, like IB. Status on AAdvantage will not get you lounge access on your domestic Coach flights; but oneworld Sapphire or Emerald with a oneworld partner will. ;)

What type of redemptions would you hope to make with your miles, regardless of which program they are accrued in?

Seph87 Sep 29, 19 3:18 pm


Originally Posted by guv1976 (Post 31576046)
Others will have to weigh in on how likely you are to be upgraded with status on the LAX-JFK/MIA routes. If upgrades are unlikely, you might pursue status with one of AA's oneworld partners, like IB. Status on AAdvantage will not get you lounge access on your domestic Coach flights; but oneworld Sapphire or Emerald with a oneworld partner will. ;)

What type of redemptions would you hope to make with your miles, regardless of which program they are accrued in?

If it's anything like UA, having an upgrade clear on a trans-con is almost impossible unless you're at the highest tier of status, so I'm not super concerned about that. When I was flying LAX-EWR I'd often sit next to guys who were Global Services and didn't get their upgrades cleared.

Personally, I'd want to use miles to get J tickets for my international vacations. We go to Europe and East Asia a lot for our trips, so having BA and JL as partners is appealing since we can get a 1-stop to almost anywhere we'd want to go.

guv1976 Sep 29, 19 3:25 pm


Originally Posted by Seph87 (Post 31576558)
If it's anything like UA, having an upgrade clear on a trans-con is almost impossible unless you're at the highest tier of status, so I'm not super concerned about that. When I was flying LAX-EWR I'd often sit next to guys who were Global Services and didn't get their upgrades cleared.

Personally, I'd want to use miles to get J tickets for my international vacations. We go to Europe and East Asia a lot for our trips, so having BA and JL as partners is appealing since we can get a 1-stop to almost anywhere we'd want to go.

If getting Admirals Club access on your domestic Coach flights is important to you, I'd look into attaining status through IB. Otherwise, you're probably better off with AAdvantage.

TravelinSperry Sep 30, 19 8:10 am

I have a question about EQDs earned. I understand EQDs are earned on the base fare (not taxes). I had a flight where I made a change to the original itinerary (due to the hurricane in S Florida). AA waived change fees due to the weather but there was a change in fare which I was required to pay. After the flight I received EQDs only on the original itinerary cost. I did not receive any EQDs for the add'l change in fare I paid. Is this correct? Does AA not provide EQDs for fare changes?

JDiver Sep 30, 19 11:16 am


Originally Posted by TravelinSperry (Post 31578458)
I have a question about EQDs earned. I understand EQDs are earned on the base fare (not taxes). I had a flight where I made a change to the original itinerary (due to the hurricane in S Florida). AA waived change fees due to the weather but there was a change in fare which I was required to pay. After the flight I received EQDs only on the original itinerary cost. I did not receive any EQDs for the add'l change in fare I paid. Is this correct? Does AA not provide EQDs for fare changes?

AFAIK, you should have been awarded EQD on the fare component paid (not including taxes, fees, change fees). You should have received EQD based on the highest fare component you actually paid, I believe, and will undoubtedly have to call or use the AAdvantage customer service webform.

JDiver Sep 30, 19 11:20 am


Originally Posted by Seph87 (Post 31575884)
I am a UA mid-tier elite (50k-75k miles per year) who recently got a new job based out of LAX. This new job involves about 5-6 trips per year to Miami; 4-5 trips per year to NYC; 1-2 trips per year to London; 1-2 trips per year to South America (most likely Brazil and/or Chile). The LHR and South America trips will be in paid J but otherwise all flights will be economy. I also do a couple trips per year for leisure, mostly international with some domestic.

Based on the above, UA does not really have a great network out of LAX for me, so I will need to switch to either AA or DL. I am hoping someone with perspective on both airlines could give me some feedback. Here's what I've gathered so far based on internet research:

1) AA's network is clearly superior for my needs, offering non-stop to almost everywhere I need to go from LAX. Most (except JFK) would involve a connection on DL.
2) If I make it to Platinum Pro (which I should), AA's elite program is more rewarding than DL's
3) DL has better on-time statistics and service. I've read horror stories about AA's handling of irrops.

So based on all that, would you say #1 and #2 outweigh #3 in AA's favor? The internet has a way of blowing things out of proportion so I'm looking for a measured take on how AA's service compared to DL's. If service is comparable between the two I think it's pretty obvious to choose AA, but if DL's service is way better I might end up going with them despite having to connect.

Some of the AA ops horror show has been due to the la k of contract and existing conflict between management and the mechanics union. In theory, this will ultimately be settled and operational / on time performance can only improve.

enpremiere Sep 30, 19 6:51 pm


Originally Posted by Seph87 (Post 31575884)
I am a UA mid-tier elite (50k-75k miles per year) who recently got a new job based out of LAX. This new job involves about 5-6 trips per year to Miami; 4-5 trips per year to NYC; 1-2 trips per year to London; 1-2 trips per year to South America (most likely Brazil and/or Chile). The LHR and South America trips will be in paid J but otherwise all flights will be economy. I also do a couple trips per year for leisure, mostly international with some domestic.

Based on the above, UA does not really have a great network out of LAX for me, so I will need to switch to either AA or DL. I am hoping someone with perspective on both airlines could give me some feedback. Here's what I've gathered so far based on internet research:

1) AA's network is clearly superior for my needs, offering non-stop to almost everywhere I need to go from LAX. Most (except JFK) would involve a connection on DL.
2) If I make it to Platinum Pro (which I should), AA's elite program is more rewarding than DL's
3) DL has better on-time statistics and service. I've read horror stories about AA's handling of irrops.

So based on all that, would you say #1 and #2 outweigh #3 in AA's favor? The internet has a way of blowing things out of proportion so I'm looking for a measured take on how AA's service compared to DL's. If service is comparable between the two I think it's pretty obvious to choose AA, but if DL's service is way better I might end up going with them despite having to connect.

With the long-haul non-stops and the hard product that AA puts on the long hauls to Europe/deep South America, AA is a winner here give that you'd spend quite a bit of time connecting on DL to get where you need to go. If you had to go out of your way to connect with either then that might change the calculus but at this point you could do a challenge on AA before your next group of trips and see where you land 12 months from now.

flyingeph12 Sep 30, 19 7:32 pm


Originally Posted by Seph87 (Post 31575884)
I am a UA mid-tier elite (50k-75k miles per year) who recently got a new job based out of LAX. This new job involves about 5-6 trips per year to Miami; 4-5 trips per year to NYC; 1-2 trips per year to London; 1-2 trips per year to South America (most likely Brazil and/or Chile). The LHR and South America trips will be in paid J but otherwise all flights will be economy. I also do a couple trips per year for leisure, mostly international with some domestic.

Based on the above, UA does not really have a great network out of LAX for me, so I will need to switch to either AA or DL. I am hoping someone with perspective on both airlines could give me some feedback. Here's what I've gathered so far based on internet research:

1) AA's network is clearly superior for my needs, offering non-stop to almost everywhere I need to go from LAX. Most (except JFK) would involve a connection on DL.
2) If I make it to Platinum Pro (which I should), AA's elite program is more rewarding than DL's
3) DL has better on-time statistics and service. I've read horror stories about AA's handling of irrops.

So based on all that, would you say #1 and #2 outweigh #3 in AA's favor? The internet has a way of blowing things out of proportion so I'm looking for a measured take on how AA's service compared to DL's. If service is comparable between the two I think it's pretty obvious to choose AA, but if DL's service is way better I might end up going with them despite having to connect.

I don't have a ton of perspective on DL, but with DL's announced partnership with LATAM, DL's network out of LAX might actually be better for your needs than you think. (Of course, it might take some time for the DL/LA partnership to get approved and reciprocal benefits to kick in.) Also, DL serves LHR nonstop from LAX through its partnership with VS.

All that said, AA would not be a bad choice. Yes, AA right now is not doing great operationally, but if you are familiar with the system and are proactive, you should be fine in case of IRROPs. Lounge access helps tremendously in my opinion. AA does have some great partners (e.g., JL) if you're looking to redeem miles. But unlike UA, there are partners where it will be expensive in terms of cash outlay to redeem miles because of fuel surcharges (e.g., BA).

If you're looking to redeem miles to Europe, I'd actually say DL is the better program. AA is likely better for Asia because of JL and CX (although premium award tickets on those airlines can be hard to find).


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