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It's incredible how AA still cannot run these flights consistently on time.
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Originally Posted by saltytheseagull
(Post 30591785)
It's incredible how AA still cannot run these flights consistently on time.
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Of course, the end of the month is a tough time as crew run out of hours.
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Put a flight alert on your email and check your phone every half hour or so. Even if they reduce the delay given the long haul nature of the flight I would be comfortable that there would be enough advance notice for you to cut short the visit to the centre and get back to the airport to make it given you won't need to to check in, check luggage, etc.
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Originally Posted by JDiver
(Post 30591850)
Of course, the end of the month is a tough time as crew run out of hours.
Sorry if there's something newer. This is from May '13. A flightcrew member is limited to 100 hours of flight time in 672 consecutive hours (28 days). This is a “rolling” 672 hours and replaces the former requirements of 100 hours in any calendar month and the former monthly and quarterly limits for international augmented operations. http://www3.alpa.org/portals/alpa/co...quirements.pdf |
Thanks everyone, lots of useful information in here! I called AA and they said the crew is known and the delay is definite, and unprompted said “it’s not like they’re going to find a new crew.” Barring any last minute issues, I think I’ll take the chance and I’m familiar enough with HK that it shouldn’t ever be more than one hour from the gate. By the way, in typical AA IT fashion, I tried creating an alert on aa.com as suggested and it created an alert for the 12/31 flight that was delayed 15 hours over the new year to 1/1. That flight finally departed and now the system gives an error creating alerts. There doesn’t appear to be any way to force the system to create an alert for the actual aa126 originally scheduled for 1/1. Happy New Years everyone! |
Originally Posted by reeg2
(Post 30591647)
Actually, no. This isn't even remotely related to having an issue that prevented OP from making a flight.
It'd just be a lie - there's no need for ethical gymnastics. Having said that, the rule is not very useful if there's no later flights that day since it just allows you to standby later the same day. In practice, though, I've had agents just confirm me on flights later the same day or even the next day. Not sure how much discretion they have these days, though. |
Originally Posted by LarryJ
(Post 30591748)
With the (relatively) new 14 CFR 117 flight and duty limitation rules, at least for pilots, we all pretty much fly to the regulation. There are very few additional restrictions added by the union contracts as 14 CFR 117 is, in most cases, more restrictive.
Although I don't remember any of them being as generous as QF flight attendants' contractual right to at least 72-hour layovers when working SYD-LAX/SFO. Back to the overall theme of this thread though, I'm surprised at the amount of advice on this thread suggesting that OP need worry that AA might pull forward a posted crew rest delay at a spoke station that gets two flights a day and is located 15 hours flying time from the nearest AA crew base. Think through how airlines really work, folks. If there is any delay that is safe to assume accurate, it's the one posted by OP. |
FWIW, flight left 2 hours late. Plane was the 12/30 AA193 LAX-HKG. |
Originally Posted by HofstraJet
(Post 30596268)
FWIW, flight left 2 hours late. Plane was the 12/30 AA193 LAX-HKG. |
Originally Posted by Herb687
(Post 30595345)
Are you familiar with the current AA/APA contract? I know back in the day when sideletters had to be negotiated to support what was then new ultra-long range flying for AA beyond the scope of the then current contract, there were some VERY generous layover time provisions in those sideletter agreements.
Although I don't remember any of them being as generous as QF flight attendants' contractual right to at least 72-hour layovers when working SYD-LAX/SFO. Back to the overall theme of this thread though, I'm surprised at the amount of advice on this thread suggesting that OP need worry that AA might pull forward a posted crew rest delay at a spoke station that gets two flights a day and is located 15 hours flying time from the nearest AA crew base. Think through how airlines really work, folks. If there is any delay that is safe to assume accurate, it's the one posted by OP. |
Originally Posted by HofstraJet
(Post 30596268)
FWIW, flight left 2 hours late. Plane was the 12/30 AA193 LAX-HKG. Too tired to totally understand, but thought it was interesting info. |
Originally Posted by Uncle Nonny
(Post 30597231)
Don't FAs only get paid for flight time? If so, why would you want 40 hrs of rest time when you can be earning money?
There are minimums per day, or per hour on duty or away from base, called rigs. When you fly trips that only pay rig (the 'hard time' is less than the 'rig time') you end up flying more days per month to make the same pay. The more productive trips will go more senior as they allow you to make more money in fewer days of work. |
EF is listing a delay I have due to “crew availability,” which sounds like an AA issue. Even if weather, they should have enough crew. I’m going to misconnect. Does AA cover hotels for EPs/CKs in this situation?
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EF is listing a delay I have due to “crew availability,” which sounds like an AA issue. Even if weather, they should have enough crew. I’m going to misconnect. Does AA cover hotels for EPs/CKs in this situation? |
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