FA withholding, measuring or commenting on in air alcoholic drinks
#136
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No, it doesn't, because each person handles alcohol differently. Laws say you can't serve someone who appears intoxicated, it does not specify how many drinks you can serve. If I can drink 15 shots of whiskey and act the same as I do after 0 shots, that's my business.
#137
Join Date: Aug 2006
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But one question, on international flights do they really lock up the booze and hour or two before landing, or was that the flight attendants way of telling a friend he wasn't getting any more?
#138
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A FA doesn't know what you can and cannot handle. He or she doesn't know whether you will sit there calmly and quite or suddenly become a loud roaring drunk acting inappropriately towards others. The FA doesn't know what your post flight activities include-do you have connection, are you taking an Uber/taxi home, are you driving? Therefore FAs have to use some judgement. Anyone pounding multiple whiskeys has the POTENTIAL of becoming an inflight problem. Again, the FA does not know you personally. I'm not sure what I can say about adults that can't seem to accept that FAs have a bigger picture to think about other than a pax that wants to drink up as much free booze as possible.
#139
Join Date: Nov 2007
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If I can drink 15 shots of whiskey and act the same as I do after 0 shots
What matters is how others perceive you.
How many here have a friend that has just had his 5th gin and tonic of the night and wants to drive home and his argument will be "I'm fine!!! I'm ok!!! Don't you guys worry"
An FA can't wait until someone starts dancing naked around the cabin, or some other extreme behavior to stop serving alcohol.
You can be a peaceful quiet drunk but you are still drunk.
A peaceful drunk can also be a nuisance or become a problem during flight.
#140
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I have good friend who has been an AA FA for 44 years and we once had a conversation about passengers drunk onboard and she said that the problems are not with the slow steady drinkers but with the ones who consume a lot of drinks in a short amount of time. She never mentioned any rules but said she sometimes has to cut passengers off.
And about the PM mentioned above drinking wine from a bottle and adding vodka, somewhere in the world a vintner is crying.
And about the PM mentioned above drinking wine from a bottle and adding vodka, somewhere in the world a vintner is crying.
#141
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#142
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Having had to once help a FA pull an older gent out of the first class lav who became unconscious after he had a few drinks, I support a FAs judgement- even if its conservative to me. In that case he was on medication that didn't mix well with booze. If you get cut off, meh- go get your liquor on once on the ground. Now for the bars we've been tossed out of over the years, that's another story!
#143
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No, it doesn't, because each person handles alcohol differently. Laws say you can't serve someone who appears intoxicated, it does not specify how many drinks you can serve. If I can drink 15 shots of whiskey and act the same as I do after 0 shots, that's my business.
#144
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if so, everyone should be capped out at none. What if I'm a pilot? Heck, some people have no tolerance so we should Saudia it and go dry.
Please, let's stop with the lowest common denominator behavior mentality. Its seemingly a cultural hallmark here, drop accessibility to the worst/lowest level member. Next, we'll argue math is too hard and enforcing 50lbs is unfair for the logically challenged.
Please, let's stop with the lowest common denominator behavior mentality. Its seemingly a cultural hallmark here, drop accessibility to the worst/lowest level member. Next, we'll argue math is too hard and enforcing 50lbs is unfair for the logically challenged.
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#145
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Agree but in this case we are discussing cutting off drinks a the FA's discretion. I personally am not equating responsible alcohol service with checking bags, boarding, on time flights, upgrades, lounges, ect.
#146
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Drink away, I have done so myself, way too many as recently as earlier this week. I am only saying the server absolutly has the authority to restrict/limit/stop service. What you/we/me think should be the limit or rule means nothing. If a server cuts you off after 1 drink, your cut off. To argue you can handle 1/3/5/15 drinks means nothing. If a server feels its time to cut you off, thats it.
#147
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I am sorry but that's ridiculous. The FA or server must be reasonable and act in good faith. Cutting off a person after one drink is outrageous and should be grounds for termination!!! I'd be writing my sternly-worded letter to AA for the rest of the flight if that happened to me. Contrary to the many comments above about "free" drinks are not free - they are part of the purchase price of my premium ticket and I intend to consume as many as possible every time that I fly.
#148
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#149
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Sorry to inform you but they very much do have the authority to cut you off due to how they "feel" you are acting, will act, amount of drinks, ect. You are not intrested in how they feel and that is the very reason a server must take actions. You could be on your best behavior and still be cut off. Take a responsable alcohol course, you might actually learn a bit about the subject.
#150
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Sorry to inform you but they very much do have the authority to cut you off due to how they "feel" you are acting, will act, amount of drinks, ect. You are not intrested in how they feel and that is the very reason a server must take actions. You could be on your best behavior and still be cut off. Take a responsable alcohol course, you might actually learn a bit about the subject.