FA withholding, measuring or commenting on in air alcoholic drinks
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It is the synthesis of multiple factors about the entire situation that could lead to such a determination.
But if the OP ordering a double Tito's makes any FA think the OP is trying to get wasted, they should probably be retrained.
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I noticed similar comments although not nearly as upfront on a transcon. flight recently in F class. It was also a young, and probably new FA. Service was pretty good otherwise, I think these young ones just are extra cautious because they fear for their jobs even if no one is acting out of line. I kind of find this a poor responsibility to have the FA's act as babysitters in this regard. Who is to know if someone showed up at the gate totally sober or if they had been at the airport bar for 3 hours non stop, not everyone shows the effects of alcohol the same way. This was a rare event thankfully and have never noticed anyone else get "cut off" or had any issues myself. Hell, Ive even had FA's give extra minis for connecting flights with no F service.
If people are not dangerously intoxicated IE could be a danger to themselves or others if an emergency happens and are also not in a disruptive manner then they should be continued to be served. A quick drink then followed by another drink by the OP should not have been cause for alarm lol
If anyone gets dangerously intoxicated by consuming a double drink, they should not be drinking period lol.
If people are not dangerously intoxicated IE could be a danger to themselves or others if an emergency happens and are also not in a disruptive manner then they should be continued to be served. A quick drink then followed by another drink by the OP should not have been cause for alarm lol
If anyone gets dangerously intoxicated by consuming a double drink, they should not be drinking period lol.
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Odd. On my last AA flight DEN-LAX I ordered 1 Corona. Paid with the card. As she unlocked the cart to move it, FA reached into the cart and handed me another. As I reached back for the card she smiled and just shook her head....dont worry. I smiled back. Very nice gesture, and have never had an issue with AA on this topic.
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Interesting dialog since my original post. I’ll add that the flight in question is one I take often, and my usual routine is to enjoy the first one - double vodka on the rocks plus ice, which I fully consume before asking for another. That effectively makes it a vodka and water. Then after a period of time I go back and ask the FA for a refill. Never an issue. And, it always stops there due to the flight length and my own personal limitations.
I’ve also flown F on the route a number of times and the FA kept em coming, no questions asked.
So so maybe the issue is a lack of standard serving protocol. I’ve been on far more flights than not where there were any kind of obvious serving limitations.
I’ve also flown F on the route a number of times and the FA kept em coming, no questions asked.
So so maybe the issue is a lack of standard serving protocol. I’ve been on far more flights than not where there were any kind of obvious serving limitations.
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On a flight yesterday, FC received one round of drinks. Period. No pre-departure drinks and the round was served 45 minutes into the 90-minute flight.
The FA shook our hands and thanked us for the business, so that made up for it.
The FA shook our hands and thanked us for the business, so that made up for it.
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AFAIK there is no onboard announcement of limitations. I'm sure that FAs are taught "best practices" in dealing with multiple requests for alcohol. The problem is that people have different tolerances and might behave differently. Some people may get stewed to the gills but sit there quietly and have arranged not to drive afterwards. Some people might act violent jeopardizing the flight and forcing a diversion or might be stupid enough to get behind the wheel of a car afterwards. FAs don't know whose who and have to make judgement calls. I've seen FAs cut people off in F (obviously where getting multiple drinks is far easier). A person taking medication with two glasses of wine can be just as dangerous as a roaring drunk that's drank a fifth of gin. Sadly too many people are too stupid to practice common sense.
In the case of a FA saying "no" I'm all for the FA. Its a commercial airliner not a fraternity party.
In the case of a FA saying "no" I'm all for the FA. Its a commercial airliner not a fraternity party.
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Usually the opposite happens to me. I rarely drink, and when the FA asks what I want and I ask for water or ginger ale they seem disappointed.
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So, if I thank them by sending an email to AA, there would be no problem for them? I was just thinking how this might cause problems if she gives a free one to pax A, but not to pax B, and they are of equal status.
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Looking at this one from the attendant's POV for a moment. I'd certainly be wary to say the least, when a PAX orders a double shot of straight spirits, then comes down back to the galley with a cup asking for another hit.
That would set off alarm bells, and I can understand the response.
That would set off alarm bells, and I can understand the response.
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We live in a litigious society that is ever-increasingly so. Complaining about not being able to have two doubles in 45 minutes probably increases the odds of further restrictions and conservative behavior on the part of FAs in the air. There is just too much legal risk around too many things these days.
Taking an attitude of "how dare she" or "I'm entitled to my booze," IMO, is never going to increase the odds of more liberal "standards."
Taking an attitude of "how dare she" or "I'm entitled to my booze," IMO, is never going to increase the odds of more liberal "standards."
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No one mentioned it, but being judgmental about someone ordering a double may well be part of it. The flip side of that is that given the declining service norms, that first order is often your last opportunity unless you get up or ring the call button. Ordering a double is probably something done more these days just to go ahead and get what you want for the flight duration. OP had to go place his second order in person at her office in the back....