ARCHIVE: 2017 HELP DESK: General questions re aircraft equipment, fleet, seats, IFE,
Jul 28, 2017, 7:13 pm
#151
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I don't know about DFW-SAN but depending on the flight to DFW-SFO you may be on an "ill equipped former US A321" I believe the last flight to SFO is a former US bird and the 1:20pm to DFW is as well. There is a lot of crossfleeting going on now. If the plane says "sharklets" its a LAA plane, if not then a LUS plane.
Jul 28, 2017, 7:14 pm
#152
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Is there any substantial difference in FC service between mid-co and transcon? all starting in RSW. From what I understand, CLT-CA are operated by the ill equipped former US A321's???
Being a former CO guy, I always chose the IAH connection vs a 5+ hour flight to the west coast.
Thanks.
Being a former CO guy, I always chose the IAH connection vs a 5+ hour flight to the west coast.
Thanks.
However, going through DFW you may be able to get a meal on both flights.
Jul 28, 2017, 7:33 pm
#153
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I don't know about DFW-SAN but depending on the flight to DFW-SFO you may be on an "ill equipped former US A321" I believe the last flight to SFO is a former US bird and the 1:20pm to DFW is as well. There is a lot of crossfleeting going on now. If the plane says "sharklets" its a LAA plane, if not then a LUS plane.
Jul 29, 2017, 7:32 am
#154
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Jul 30, 2017, 3:40 pm
#155
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The US A321 plane might be ill equipped compared to the LAA airbus, but I'll bet a penny to a pound (or a dollar I guess) that the LUS FAs will provide a hell of a lot better service than the LAA crew. I can overcome the shortcomings of the LUS aircraft with a USB battery pack and an iPad loaded with videos, but I can't compensate for the LAA inflight service.
Oct 2, 2017, 5:57 pm
#156
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AA49 CDG-DFW Plane ?
Delta Elite who came into some AA miles and is trying to use them next March. Booked what was originally the 787-9 on this routing, but was changed to what is now a 772 per the website.
I have read and re-read the thorough, but rather confusing 777 threads and still cannot figure out if this is a good plane with the B/A Aerospace seats or if i should ditch this flight and look for alternates.
Any help would be appreciated.
AA 49
3/29/18
I have read and re-read the thorough, but rather confusing 777 threads and still cannot figure out if this is a good plane with the B/A Aerospace seats or if i should ditch this flight and look for alternates.
Any help would be appreciated.
AA 49
3/29/18
Oct 2, 2017, 6:56 pm
#157
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Delta Elite who came into some AA miles and is trying to use them next March. Booked what was originally the 787-9 on this routing, but was changed to what is now a 772 per the website.
I have read and re-read the thorough, but rather confusing 777 threads and still cannot figure out if this is a good plane with the B/A Aerospace seats or if i should ditch this flight and look for alternates.
Any help would be appreciated.
AA 49
3/29/18
I have read and re-read the thorough, but rather confusing 777 threads and still cannot figure out if this is a good plane with the B/A Aerospace seats or if i should ditch this flight and look for alternates.
Any help would be appreciated.
AA 49
3/29/18
The easiest way to tell is by using the seating chart when you select your seat. If the J seat map shows a 2-3-2 configuration than it is the old angle flat seat (though I don’t think there are many of those left).
If it is a 1-2-1 configuration with seats that face both front and back then it is the Zodiac seat. The seat map will designate which seats are rear facing, they also have a white triangle pointing down at the top of the blue seat for the rear facing rows.
If the seat map is 1-2-1 and each unselected seat is showing as a full blue square then it is the 772 with the B/E seats. There will also be no mention of rear facing seats in the key above the seat map.
Hope this explanation makes sense.
Last edited by AlwaysSunnyInORD; Oct 2, 2017 at 7:19 pm
Oct 2, 2017, 7:01 pm
#158
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I prefer the B/A Aerospace over the Zodiac, you don't have to deal with the movement of the connected seats.
Equipment swaps on international itineraries are considered schedule changes, so if you want you can look for a re-route, but would have to connect through one of the other hubs.
Also all the 3- Class 777 have been converted or are getting converted as we speak, so you don't have to worry about that.
Equipment swaps on international itineraries are considered schedule changes, so if you want you can look for a re-route, but would have to connect through one of the other hubs.
Also all the 3- Class 777 have been converted or are getting converted as we speak, so you don't have to worry about that.
Last edited by rfett2; Oct 2, 2017 at 7:02 pm Reason: Update
Oct 2, 2017, 7:10 pm
#159
Join Date: Oct 2015
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The easiest way to tell is by using the seating chart when you select your seat. If the J seat map shows a 2-3-2 configuration than it is the old angle flat seat (though I don’t think there are many of those left).
If it is a 1-2-1 configuration with seats that face both front and back then it is the Zodiac seat. The seat map will designate which seats are rear facing, they also have a white triangle pointing down at the top of the blue seat for the rear facing rows.
If the seat map is 1-2-1 and each unelected seat is showing as a full blue square then it is the 772 with the B/E seats. There will also be no mention of rear facing seats in the key above the seat map.
Hope this explanation makes sense.
If it is a 1-2-1 configuration with seats that face both front and back then it is the Zodiac seat. The seat map will designate which seats are rear facing, they also have a white triangle pointing down at the top of the blue seat for the rear facing rows.
If the seat map is 1-2-1 and each unelected seat is showing as a full blue square then it is the 772 with the B/E seats. There will also be no mention of rear facing seats in the key above the seat map.
Hope this explanation makes sense.
Much more simple than what I've read. There are just solid blue squares in a 1-2-1.
Thanks again.
Oct 2, 2017, 11:59 pm
#160
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None of those are left; however, there are two versions of the reconfigured planes, some have 45 J seats and the others have 37 seats, both in 1-2-1 configuration. I don't know which are the B/E Aerospace and which are the Zodiac (the connected alternating front/back facing seats which move when your neighbor does).
Oct 3, 2017, 1:35 am
#161
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None of those are left; however, there are two versions of the reconfigured planes, some have 45 J seats and the others have 37 seats, both in 1-2-1 configuration. I don't know which are the B/E Aerospace and which are the Zodiac (the connected alternating front/back facing seats which move when your neighbor does).
Oct 3, 2017, 5:46 pm
#162
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I just located the definitive thread on the B777-200ER retrofit:
The wikipost has the details of the three business class configurations and links to threads discussing the different versions of the businees class seating (13 planes with 45 Zodiac seats, 6 with 37 Zodiac seats and 28 with 37 B/E Aerospace Super Diamond Solo seats - the Zodiac seating alternates forward and back facing rows, the B/E seats are all forward facing).
Oct 5, 2017, 3:00 pm
#163
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Changes coming to 757-200 fleet as of April 2018:
Boeing 757-2S7 (originally America West) "West" LUS aircraft on lease and operated as "B57H" in mainland - Hawaii service will be returned to the lessor in 2018; the aircraft have been committed to other airlines.
Boeing B757-2B7 (originally US Air / US Airways) "East" LUS flying transatlantic as "B57E" between PHL and GLA, LIS and SNN, with 2 x 2 angled flat "Envoy" seats will be redeployed to fill for the departing B57H aircraft on PXH - Hawaii flights beginning April 2018.
Boeing 757-2S7 (originally America West) "West" LUS aircraft on lease and operated as "B57H" in mainland - Hawaii service will be returned to the lessor in 2018; the aircraft have been committed to other airlines.
Boeing B757-2B7 (originally US Air / US Airways) "East" LUS flying transatlantic as "B57E" between PHL and GLA, LIS and SNN, with 2 x 2 angled flat "Envoy" seats will be redeployed to fill for the departing B57H aircraft on PXH - Hawaii flights beginning April 2018.
Oct 11, 2017, 11:27 am
#164
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752 jfk-dub
Hi all
Im looking to fly to JFK from DUB next April in J. Traditionally I go via LHR with BA or AA but the direct flight, preclearance etc are making me consider the 752
I know that the number of transatlantic routes seeing the 752 next year is being reduced. What’s the chances of one of the updated 752s?
Im looking to fly to JFK from DUB next April in J. Traditionally I go via LHR with BA or AA but the direct flight, preclearance etc are making me consider the 752
I know that the number of transatlantic routes seeing the 752 next year is being reduced. What’s the chances of one of the updated 752s?
Oct 11, 2017, 11:36 am
#165
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High chance of an updated 752 with lie flats. Most, if not all, non-lie flat 752s will be retired in late 2017 or early 2018.