Lies about overhead bins and capacity at LGA
#31
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you have valid points. I was talking about 787 on domestic runs. I’m not sure if it’s enough space for everyone or not but I definitely saw some bins being empty after door was closed most of the time.
I guess checking a bag or not is a personal preference. Even when i check the luggage on international trips I still have a full size carry on where I put more expensive clothes that I don’t want to get lost.
Never saw a widebody on a domestic run though! That's interesting
#32
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Don't get me wrong, I totally get why you wouldn't want to check a bag. It's never the time at the carousel for me though, it's more about when my contents are critical. I still carry-on prior to cruises since I don't know how good service recovery is on a delayed bag when I'm in a different country every few days. And if I was a road warrior, those 20 minutes per airport would add up I'm sure.
Never saw a widebody on a domestic run though! That's interesting
Never saw a widebody on a domestic run though! That's interesting
#33
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complimentary checked bags won’t solve the problem. They complimentary check at the gate for every flight. People don’t want to check it and wait for it after arrival. You can’t pay me to check a bag especially if I’m connecting. they can loose it or delay it. Also you don’t really have stand by flexibility once you have it checked.
Plus they make a lot of money from it. I’d rather AA charge for bags instead of passing that cost to everyone.
Well, Alaska and Delta do pay you to check bags if they don’t deliver them within 20 minutes. In my experience, AS does a good job of that. (I haven’t checked a bag with a Delta since they copied AS’s policy.) Because AS reliably delivers my bag without making me wait long, I’m far more inclined to check a bag (though I still usually don’t).
Solution here is to have larger overhead bins.
There are never problems on dreamliners or 777. Enough space for everyone to stow their carry on
#34
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#35
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Well, Alaska and Delta do pay you to check bags if they don’t deliver them within 20 minutes. In my experience, AS does a good job of that. (I haven’t checked a bag with a Delta since they copied AS’s policy.) Because AS reliably delivers my bag without making me wait long, I’m far more inclined to check a bag (though I still usually don’t).
FWIW, the one time I used it my bag was only a minute late. And hasn't happened since. These days my bag beats me to the carousel, even when I'm sitting towards the front.
#36
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They did not lie!
They gave you a very creative version of the truth...
1) The gate agents actually get a "electronic message", that advises them to start checking carry-ons!
It has nothing to do with sensors, though.
It is the QiK over SABRE-interface, that shows a message after a certain number of pax has been boarded, without considering the actual sizes of luggage.
So...no lie, the message came electronically.
2) The FAA will approve all aircraft types and their interiors, before they may be used commercially in the U.S.!
Therefore the bins were regulated by the FAA at some point.
That has absolutely nothing to do with that certain flight of course.
But, again...no lie!
You fell for political BS-speech!
They gave you a very creative version of the truth...
1) The gate agents actually get a "electronic message", that advises them to start checking carry-ons!
It has nothing to do with sensors, though.
It is the QiK over SABRE-interface, that shows a message after a certain number of pax has been boarded, without considering the actual sizes of luggage.
So...no lie, the message came electronically.
2) The FAA will approve all aircraft types and their interiors, before they may be used commercially in the U.S.!
Therefore the bins were regulated by the FAA at some point.
That has absolutely nothing to do with that certain flight of course.
But, again...no lie!
You fell for political BS-speech!
#37
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I will admit that there are plenty of times that I would take the complementary gate-check if the airline would be willing to check it for gate pickup at my next stop. Aside from wanting my laptop, a book or two, and a change of clothes with me (the last one being superstition) I'm generally not too worked up about having the bag with me on the plane (and indeed, on a number of trips in the past I would take my "checked" bag with me through security and promptly hand it to the GA when I got to the gate for a gate-check...I was within my allowance, but check-at-the-gate was quicker than check-at-the-counter and it gave me a little more slack in getting to the gate).
For the record, I've only had a bag go "astray" twice: Once when I got IRROPSed onto one flight while my bag went on another, and once where I made a connection and my bag didn't. Considering that I only made the connection in question due to running through Atlanta (my flight from Toronto was delayed several hours; if not for the fact that I had left my phone in an Uber, I would have just missed the connection [last of the day] and done misconnect games the next day), I can't fault the airline for not getting it through.
For the record, I've only had a bag go "astray" twice: Once when I got IRROPSed onto one flight while my bag went on another, and once where I made a connection and my bag didn't. Considering that I only made the connection in question due to running through Atlanta (my flight from Toronto was delayed several hours; if not for the fact that I had left my phone in an Uber, I would have just missed the connection [last of the day] and done misconnect games the next day), I can't fault the airline for not getting it through.
#38
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A couple times, connecting from ATL to DFW/MIA or ORD to make an international connection the FA tell me that I will need to check my bag, which I have been using for the last 10 years
and that it wont be a gate check.. I just tell them I have a international connection and would prefer not too.
It works especially when the Senior FA says it fine.. (so having tags on your bags do help)
and that it wont be a gate check.. I just tell them I have a international connection and would prefer not too.
It works especially when the Senior FA says it fine.. (so having tags on your bags do help)
#39
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Don't get me wrong, I totally get why you wouldn't want to check a bag. It's never the time at the carousel for me though, it's more about when my contents are critical. I still carry-on prior to cruises since I don't know how good service recovery is on a delayed bag when I'm in a different country every few days. And if I was a road warrior, those 20 minutes per airport would add up I'm sure.
Never saw a widebody on a domestic run though! That's interesting
Never saw a widebody on a domestic run though! That's interesting
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GAs lying. Say it ain't so! Seriously, being forced to gate check bags from onboard does cause flights to leave late. If your're in groups 7-9 chances are your rollerboard won't find a place. I'd rather all this be done pre-boarding. If the GA needs to tell a little white lie to accomplish that feat so be it.
#43
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AA is the worst about this. They preemptively force people to gate check bags without really knowing the situation. The last time I flew with them, they made me gate check. Even after the flight was fully boarded, there were open bins everywhere with huge gaps in them. Probably room for 2 dozen more roll-aboards.
And now they're claiming they have magical sensors? Right.
And now they're claiming they have magical sensors? Right.
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