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AA begins A321T 3 class Flagship transcon 2x a day BOS-LAX 2 Apr 2019

AA begins A321T 3 class Flagship transcon 2x a day BOS-LAX 2 Apr 2019

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Old Nov 30, 18, 11:29 pm
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Originally Posted by MAH4546 View Post


3-class service coming back to MIA-LAX, too. Resumes June 6th.

jetBlue Mint is crushing it on FLL-LAX. Sky high average fares, adding another frequency next month. It's worth the hassle of FLL. There is little doubt in my mind AA is hurting on MIA-LAX, too.
What makes you think AA is hurting? Almost impossible to upgrade if not CK, J regularly sells out... For LAX-MIA, M-F next week all nonstops J0 except for Friday night redeye
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Old Dec 1, 18, 3:54 am
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Originally Posted by MAH4546 View Post


3-class service coming back to MIA-LAX, too. Resumes June 6th.

jetBlue Mint is crushing it on FLL-LAX. Sky high average fares, adding another frequency next month. It's worth the hassle of FLL. There is little doubt in my mind AA is hurting on MIA-LAX, too.
Whoa! Which rotation are they getting the plane from this time?
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Old Dec 1, 18, 4:45 am
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Originally Posted by teemuflyer View Post
Whoa! Which rotation are they getting the plane from this time?
S.America losing 2 77W, note the date for this one (June 6th-- AA 1297 as a 77W will supply 77W to LAX-HND (not yet loaded))

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30447544-post582.html


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Old Dec 1, 18, 7:57 am
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Originally Posted by beachfan View Post
They were pricing crappy 321S J the same, so you think they can charge more?
Do I think they can charge more for F than J on this route? I would hope so, otherwise what would even be the point of offering 3 class F? They could’ve just thrown a 75L at it.
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Old Dec 1, 18, 9:14 am
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Do I think they can charge more for F than J on this route? I would hope so, otherwise what would even be the point of offering 3 class F? They could’ve just thrown a 75L at it.
30 premium seats vs 16 premium seats. F at J prices still beats Y fares
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Old Dec 1, 18, 4:02 pm
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Originally Posted by JonNYC View Post
S.America losing 2 77W, note the date for this one (June 6th-- AA 1297 as a 77W will supply 77W to LAX-HND (not yet loaded))

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/30447544-post582.html

https://twitter.com/xJonNYC/status/1...23post30447629
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Old Dec 1, 18, 7:46 pm
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I mean anything is "possible." Those few already booked on the flights affected by the swap may luck out, but knowing how $ grubbing AA has been with this leadership, I'd say don't be shocked if you get a "flight change notice" moving you to a
a) different seats on the same flight number and aircraft (now in business class since that's what you originally purchased when it was a 2-class plane)
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b) flight at a different time on a 2-cabin aircraft, for which you can change back to your original flight business class seat no charge.
It's unlikely they will leave you in 2A and 2C as that is now first class, not business class that you paid for. It MIGHT but not likely
We'll have to see. Should it happen that we are "downgraded" to Flagship Business on a new A321T vs. First on an old US Airways A321, I don't think it would be right to complain. The main reason I wanted the redeye was to get a bit of sleep. In any case, I pledge to keep the thread informed, if only as a reference point.
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Old Dec 1, 18, 9:08 pm
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Hrm actually, good point. I wonder what the BOS-JFK 321Ts are still in the schedule for. Maybe the can borrow one in case it goes mx?
Why not put those on LAX-PHL, LAX-DCA, or JFK-SEA instead of BOS-JFK?
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Old Dec 2, 18, 7:44 pm
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Why not put those on LAX-PHL, LAX-DCA, or JFK-SEA instead of BOS-JFK?
The BOS-JFK flights are to squeeze in extra utilization from the planes. The number of passengers are quite limited as most O&D take the shuttle to LGA and the route serves to feed international connections at JFK.

The flights were previously Eagle flights before all Eagle flights were removed from BOS (some at risk eagle flying remaining to ROC). A 738 was used at times and was way to many seats for the route.

There isn't enough downtime on the planes to do a transcon and the ideal times to fly jfk-sea are probably the same ideal times to fly jfk-lax/SFO. Currently two round trips a day. Leaves JFK in the morning after the Latam overnight bank (and after the lax/SFO redeyes arrive). 12:30pm departure from BOS back to JFK (usually fairly light), 3:30pm departure from JFK to BOS (gets arrivals from Europe) and a 5:55pm departure from BOS to JFK that connects with European and Latam redeyes. Plane is then used for a SFO/lax flight around 9pm
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There is a morning A330 LAX-PHL and an afternoon PHL-LAX with 20 Envoy suites and 21 PE seats priced at MCE. I don't fly any of the A321T routes so I don't know how they price the seats, but the Envoy suites on the PHL-LAX route are priced the same as domestic F. I usually pay $610-$650 for PHL-LAX-LAS, but I think PHL-LAX is around $1000.
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Old Dec 3, 18, 6:56 am
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Originally Posted by beachfan View Post
What makes you think AA is hurting? Almost impossible to upgrade if not CK, J regularly sells out... For LAX-MIA, M-F next week all nonstops J0 except for Friday night redeye
B6 commands a premium over AA on the south beach to LAX and SFO now. They might show J0, but that could be all connection itineraries to South America.
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Originally Posted by redtop43 View Post
There is a morning A330 LAX-PHL and an afternoon PHL-LAX with 20 Envoy suites and 21 PE seats priced at MCE. I don't fly any of the A321T routes so I don't know how they price the seats, but the Envoy suites on the PHL-LAX route are priced the same as domestic F. I usually pay $610-$650 for PHL-LAX-LAS, but I think PHL-LAX is around $1000.
What is an Envoy Suite? Isnt Envoy an AA regional airline?
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Old Dec 3, 18, 10:04 am
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What is an Envoy Suite? Isnt Envoy an AA regional airline?
LUS A330 J seat. US Air called their international J class Envoy class.
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Old Dec 3, 18, 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by redtop43 View Post
There is a morning A330 LAX-PHL and an afternoon PHL-LAX with 20 Envoy suites and 21 PE seats priced at MCE. I don't fly any of the A321T routes so I don't know how they price the seats, but the Envoy suites on the PHL-LAX route are priced the same as domestic F.
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Old Dec 3, 18, 4:12 pm
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Originally Posted by dkc192 View Post
LUS A330 J seat. US Air called their international J class Envoy class.
Thanks. Never flew pre-merger US for any international, so I didn't know about their Envoy "brand" of things. Glad AA stuck with FlAAgship branding.
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