As a million-mile lifetime flyer on US/AA, I won't be setting foot on any 7M8's. Flying out of CLT, they should be easy to avoid. The causes of the two recent crashes may be coincidences. Or maybe not, no one knows at this point. Why risk it?

"Let's wait for the facts"

"China didn't wait for the facts"

I wonder how many will be singing this same tune if the two 737 MAX planes were from AA/SWA/UA and the fatalities had been all american passengers.

Interesting thought experiment, indeed.

But there probably would be action by the U.S. What's your point? That China doesn't trust the U.S. (and, I contend, vice versa)? Thanks for that nugget.

Sadly, perception is reality these days. We are a relatively small group of aviation "nerds" who follow the industry closely and look at the reaction here. This crash happened on a Sunday in Africa so the average American never saw the news. Just wait until tomorrow when the Fox and Friends/Today Show/Good Morning America do what they do best: If it bleeds, it leads. Sunday morning probably 95+% of average Americans would think you were speaking a different language if you said 737 Max 8. By tomorrow morning everyone will be calling American, Southwest, etc and asking if their next flight is on a Max 8. This has to be FREAK OUT time at Boeing and the airlines who fly the Max 8. The media will ride this story and force the airlines/FAA to make some really hard decisions, and I fear unfortunately many of those decisions will be based on public opinion and not facts.

I will admit that I'm hesitant to fly on a Max 8 right now and I've been OK flying on a B-17 flying fortress held together with duct tape!

I am currently in Australia. Extensive TV coverage of the ET crash, including CNN International. Passenger breakdown showed a wide range of nationalities. There were 8 Americans on the flight (no Australians). I agree ET is a great airline. This is Boeing's fault. In both crashes the airplanes failed to gain significant altitude. And both went straight into the ground - like they completely lost lift and fell to the ground.

I am not sure about one question, so I am going to ask here.

Is it the fault of the B7M8 frame (Boeing) or the fault of LEAP (the engine)? As I have heard the fault starts with the LEAP engine is too big for the frame which ended with a lot of extra software to assist the pilot, and those software is the suspected reason for the loss of control of the aircraft.

No if its a Max it shows a 7M8 (737-800 Max series).

No. The engines are different. The ECAS software (auto pitch control on the MAX) is different. 737-800s have been flown safely by dozens of carriers for two decades.