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Admirals Club rates increasing, new restrictions: 2019

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Old Oct 26, 18, 7:59 pm
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Originally Posted by SouthernCross View Post




If AA offered an enhanced Admirals Membership with FL access then maybe.

But Iím departing out of JFK gate 5 on a domestic flight today, and it pisses me off that thereís no Admirals Club in the terminal. There was when I puchased the membership. (Yes, I purchase my Admirals Club membership, sometimes with cash, sometimes with BizExtra.) Whatever...airline lounge T&C are some of the most customer abusive contracts around.
All AA (metal) flights depart out of Terminal 8 in JFK. T8 has two sections: low numbers (called B) and high numbers (called C); the lounge in B is now FL only, the one in C is a regular AC. While it requires some walking and negotiating moving walkways (not always working), you can still access the AC (near gate 42) even when departing from gate 5 (in B).
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Old Oct 27, 18, 8:59 am
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Originally Posted by TheDudeAbides View Post
Only one of you needs to get the Citi card for both of you to have access, even when traveling separately. So, with that card, your cost is $450 total.
Well, yeah. That's what I said.
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Old Oct 27, 18, 9:26 am
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Originally Posted by DenverBrian View Post
I think people are missing a HUGE reason to have the Exec card besides AC membership: 10,000 EQM (yes, EQM) for $40,000 spend.
I wasn't missing that at all--that was my point about the Aviator Silver card...

Originally Posted by JDiver View Post
Now that the Aviator Red wonít give holders any EQD offset at all, and Silver will afford $3,000 EQD offset only after $50,000 spend, as of next year, what will be your plan?

Barclaycard Aviator Red no EQD, Silver $3k EQD Only as of 2019
Aaaannd AA dropped the other shoe...which made this snap into focus.

So, yeah--now it makes some sense to get their friggin' card for the club membership and push my spend to it for the EQM. Apparently there's no comparable remaining option for the Barclay's EQD earning unless I'm missing it. The Aviator card is gone just as soon as we've met the requirement for EQD to post and have burned the companion certificate early next year. I think I see a Priority Pass membership in my future also.

As others have noted, it surely does feel like AA is determined to screw those most committed to them as customers in the name of increasing revenue for the sake of increasing revenue...can't wait for the next round of "exciting customer experience enhancements" from AAdvantage
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Old Oct 28, 18, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by AAir_head View Post
Well, yeah. That's what I said.
My AA Barclays card gets 10,000 annual RDM with the 89 annual fee, which is the only reason I now have to keep it. I have the citi exec card for the Admirals club membership.
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Old Oct 28, 18, 11:35 am
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Originally Posted by Frequentflight View Post
I think the improvement AAs done to both flagship and Admirals lounges are worth the increase in price. Better food, more options and nicer amenities than UA/DL
I disagree with the "better food" comment as to the AC. We were just in the T5 AC at LAX and the breakast offerings have been cut back. In little ways, such as no more raisin/craisins for the oatmeal, no more bananas. There was something else, but it was so little that I can't remember it.

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All AA (metal) flights depart out of Terminal 8 in JFK. T8 has two sections: low numbers (called B) and high numbers (called C); the lounge in B is now FL only, the one in C is a regular AC. While it requires some walking and negotiating moving walkways (not always working), you can still access the AC (near gate 42) even when departing from gate 5 (in B).
OP was talking about GATE 5, not Terminal 5. The pathetic AC that remained after the creation of the Flagship lounge wasn't worth stopping in for, IMO, but it's very annoying (to me, anyway) that OWE on other airlines have access to the FL while EXP do not.

DH and I argued this year about whether or not to chase EXP for 2019. I was against and "lost" the argument (we will both make it). I think I'm going to "win" this year. Our spending will go down as we inch toward retirement, so my Barclaycard will be shredded when it expires (he got his this year so has a year's grace period). And we will likely cancel one of two Citi cards and just have a member + authorized used on the other.
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Old Oct 28, 18, 5:49 pm
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Originally Posted by critterchick View Post
I disagree with the "better food" comment as to the AC. We were just in the T5 AC at LAX and the breakast offerings have been cut back. In little ways, such as no more raisin/craisins for the oatmeal, no more bananas. There was something else, but it was so little that I can't remember it.



OP was talking about GATE 5, not Terminal 5. The pathetic AC that remained after the creation of the Flagship lounge wasn't worth stopping in for, IMO, but it's very annoying (to me, anyway) that OWE on other airlines have access to the FL while EXP do not.

DH and I argued this year about whether or not to chase EXP for 2019. I was against and "lost" the argument (we will both make it). I think I'm going to "win" this year. Our spending will go down as we inch toward retirement, so my Barclaycard will be shredded when it expires (he got his this year so has a year's grace period). And we will likely cancel one of two Citi cards and just have a member + authorized used on the other.
Yes and that is the issue I addressed--nowhere did I mention Terminal 5. The AC in concourse C of JFK T8 near gate 42 is no different from AC's in PHX, CLT, ORD, LGA, PHL which I visited recently. That "pathetic area" is no longer an AC, but will be absorbed into the B concourse FL.
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Old Oct 28, 18, 9:10 pm
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Originally Posted by FlytheTail View Post
Of course, United will soon follow.
AFAIK, United was the first to implement the boarding pass requirement to access the United Club. I have several friends who have the Chase United MileagePlus Club card and they have been required to have a UA or partner same day boarding pass in their possession to enter the clubs since at least the beginning of this year.
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Old Oct 28, 18, 9:18 pm
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Originally Posted by TWA884 View Post
AFAIK, United was the first to implement the boarding pass requirement to access the United Club. I have several friends who have the Chase United MileagePlus Club card and they have been required to have a UA or partner same day boarding pass in their possession to enter the clubs since at least the beginning of this year.
A boarding pass is required, but any airline.
All United Club customers, including members, are eligible to access United Club locations only when they have a flight arriving or departing on any airline the same day, and must show a boarding pass for entry.
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Old Oct 29, 18, 12:06 pm
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Originally Posted by NovaEngr View Post
A boarding pass is required, but any airline.

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And unlike AA or DL Club members, UA Club customers can access member-owned lounges across their alliance with a same day ticket from any alliance member. AA offers customers some lounges with some partners (BA+QF?), and DL offers no partner lounge access effective 2019. This means a DL Club member flying CDG-ATL only gets access on one end of the flight in Atlanta, while a UA Club member flying KBV-BKK-IST on *A would have access at all three airports (assuming access at IST is legally allowed after arrival) even though UA does not currently fly to any of those airports. This is a really big deal and, in my opinion, one of the biggest value propositions to be a United Club member.
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Old Oct 29, 18, 12:49 pm
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Originally Posted by worldwidedreamer View Post
And unlike AA or DL Club members, UA Club customers can access member-owned lounges across their alliance with a same day ticket from any alliance member. AA offers customers some lounges with some partners (BA+QF?), and DL offers no partner lounge access effective 2019. This means a DL Club member flying CDG-ATL only gets access on one end of the flight in Atlanta, while a UA Club member flying KBV-BKK-IST on *A would have access at all three airports (assuming access at IST is legally allowed after arrival) even though UA does not currently fly to any of those airports. This is a really big deal and, in my opinion, one of the biggest value propositions to be a United Club member.
It is no doubt presently the most generous with access. However, IMHO, United Clubs are my least favorite of the big 3 domestic airlines. Notably, most United Clubs do not offer showers.
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Old Oct 29, 18, 2:24 pm
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Originally Posted by AAir_head View Post
...So, yeah--now it makes some sense to get their friggin' card for the club membership and push my spend to it for the EQM. Apparently there's no comparable remaining option for the Barclay's EQD earning unless I'm missing it. The Aviator card is gone just as soon as we've met the requirement for EQD to post and have burned the companion certificate early next year. I think I see a Priority Pass membership in my future also...
Taking a wait-and-see approach on AC membership for now--we're paid through next summer anyway so there's no need to get the Citi card just yet. In the interim, have now pulled the trigger on SPG(-Marriott) AMEX Luxury card that I previously passed on--includes Priority Pass Select and a number of other benefits/incentives that will (for me) offset its $450 annual fee. AAviator Silver gets a full-stop on spend until current EQDs post, we burn the companion cert early in 2019, and AA/Barclays reveal the mysterious new perks/benefits that will excite everyone into keeping it--I suspect it will end up getting closed with the changes to EQD/EQM earning effective 1/2019.

If driving folks who pay their own way away from AAviator cards and AC membership is AA's objective, they're well on the way to success in my case.

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Old Oct 29, 18, 11:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Teckelspass View Post
Notably, most United Clubs do not offer showers.
I agree 100% with that sentiment, and have complained to high heavens about it. TBH it cost them my business as a decade plus elite.
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Old Oct 30, 18, 6:30 am
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As a Citi Exec cardholder based in Charlotte where itís pretty much all AA - Iím out. I didnít really think about it all until a recent trip to BOS where the AC in B was closed for renovations. I went to the BA terraces lounge in E and used my BA silver membership for access on my AA ticket. No squares of cheese, or drink coupons in there. Iíll just use my BA silver for AC access on AA flights, and use my BA exec club membership for the tier points on AA domestic, and I get my 4 qualifying flights in one paid round trip CLT-LHR-MAN when I go back home every year. I do this trip anyway and fly AA a lot with work, so why pay the extra $450?
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Old Oct 30, 18, 6:33 am
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Old Oct 30, 18, 6:51 am
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Originally Posted by enviroian View Post
United did this already several years ago. How many people in the grand scheme of things are going to be 1. flying a different airline than AA as a top tier flyer and more importantly 2. going to be anywhere remotely near an AC when flying another airline?

I think it's a great idea in crowd thinning.
I've used the AA club a few weeks back when I had a long layover but was on a UA award booking. They were nice to allow me entry, but was a bit of a walk to another terminal. That said, it made the 3 hr layover MUCH more bearable and did think to myself, "I'm glad i bought this membership". While I might use it once or twice a year, it seems unnecessarily punitive, especially since they are upping the cost to families, which are the ones which seem to take the most toll on the club (imo - kids running around, stacking up plates and never finishing the food, etc)

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