TWA884

Not just technically, it's clearly stated in the Access changes section of the Admirals Club membership page.

Often1

It has been this way since the change was implemented on November 1.

Would make no sense that you, as a paid AC member, would not be permitted access to an AC when flying some random other carrier, but that a guest could do so.

scubadu

I'm pretty sure that is what I was saying when I said, "technically" which is defined as, "according to the facts or exact meaning of something; strictly"

Regards

Mr. BoH

Yeah, I am sure it has been this way since Nov 1, but this is the first time it has come up for me.

I see where you are coming from, but I guess I look at it differently: I am usually using my guest access to socialize or do business with a client or colleague traveling the same day as me. I would have thought that me flying AA would be sufficient, as obviously I can’t tell my client what airline to fly. But I guess AA agrees with you.

flightrisk

Am I reading the new rule correctly that I do not need to have a flight originating or departing from the AC airport so long as I have any flight that day on a One World carrier? So example if I fly Delta from PHL to JFK then AA from JFK same day, I would be permitted to access the PHL AC?

miamiflyer8

I would assume that's the case, as it doesn't specify same city.

From personal experience, I used a Finnair Business class mobile bp with my AY Sapphire status on it JFK-HEL to use the AC at ATL when I was flying ATL-JFK on DL. I simply had the AY bp scanned and agent asked "Remind me again of your Finnair status?" I told her Sapphire, "Excellent sir, welcome in!" Not an AC member so that couldn't be flagged anywhere in the system.

economyplusfan

Cancelled my Citi AAdvantage Executive Card today after 6 years of membership @ $450 a pop. I told the rep it was because of the restricted access to the Admirals Club.

davecraze

This same day flight rule for guests seems to be enforced only about half the time, in my experience, but it is always a risk.

sbrower

I called Aadmiral's Club yesterday (to check on getting my refund based on getting the Citi card.) I told them that after being a paying member for 36 years of the Aadmiral's Club (a lounge for which I paid about $450 a year), instead of getting a good feeling about AA when I see and Admiral's Club, I get a negative feeling about AA. Why? I have recently had occasion to fly some other airlines (such as JetBlue which shares Terminal 5 at LAX) and, when I looked at the lounge for which I had paid money, I was not allowed to enter by the new rules. Do I accept the right of AA to change the rules? Yes, sometimes they even got better (like better food, more drinks, etc.). But that doesn't mean I need to agree with the change.

The representative I spoke with was very polite. She explained that the change was made so that the lounges would no longer be overcrowded because they knew how many members were flying on each incoming and departing flights and would now be able to forecast the exact number of guests who would be arriving and/or departing. So I assume that there should be LOTS of confirmation for the fact that since November 1, 2019, the lounges have always had adequate seating, always had adequate food (she mentioned specifically that they would know how much food they would need), and that they have become a place of refuge once again (just like I remember them from the entire 36 years I have been a member).

So, would a bunch of you please let me know how wonderful it has been for the past 60+ days?

TWA884

In January and February of this year, the LAX T4 club was considerably less crowded between 6:00 and 7:00 am than it was during the approximately same time period prior to November 2019, when the change was implemented. No noticeable change in food quantities, quality or offerings, although the wait to use the espresso machine was shorter in 2020.

IADCAflyer

So the one club that I've noticed the most change is the main CLT club. It used to be -mobbed- mid afternoon. Last trip there was on a Tuesday at about 4:00 pm and it was still crowded, but you could find pairs of seats available. Hard to tell if that was owing to the day of the week or the particular time of the year, but it was less crowded. The LGA club on a Monday morning (9:00 am ish) was very uncrowded.

socalterp

agree on CLT, both C/D and B. I am generally there Mon or Tues AM, and both are still crowded, but not as bad as before. I don’t think it could be a drastic reduction in numbers given the high % of AA flights at CLT. The centurion lounge opening will help some more, but there is definitely another club needed (probably E)

the other clubs that I frequent are at JFK, LGA and EWR. AA is in its own terminal at JFK and it’s own “pier” at LGA, so doubt there is much difference there. Maybe some minimal difference at EWR, given that AA has most of the “A” gates in that terminal an security can be such a cluster there.

MiamiAirport Formerly NY George

At MIA it's hard to say since the E club has been closed for renovations. The D30 club is much more crowded than the D15 club but again the re-opening of E will alleviate some of that. I agree in airports in which AA is the sole occupant of a certain terminal or concourse there's probably little change since flyers were likely on AA to begin with.

Mr. BoH

I would say clubs have been less crowded. It is noticeable in PHL, where for a while clubs were bursting at the seams when A-west club closed. Much more manageable recently.

sbrower

Okay, I was there last night. Club for terminal B/C (where I think AA is the only airline) was wide-open at 8pm at night. Only about 50 people in a club that looks like it could hold more than 200.