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Admirals Club rates increased, new restrictions: 1 Nov 2019

Admirals Club rates increased, new restrictions: 1 Nov 2019

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Admirals Club access rules for members changed, membership costs increased 1 November 2019.

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Access changes

Starting November 1, 2019

Boarding passes for same-day travel on American Airlines or partner airlines are required for entry.1

1 Any departing or arriving flight: marketed or operated by American Airlines, marketed and operated by any oneworld® partner carrier, or marketed and operated by Alaska Airlines
This is true regardless of membership type, excluding lifetime members. Citi® / AAdvantage® Executive World Elite™ Mastercard® Authorized Users must fulfill the same requirements. (Lifetime Admirals Club members may access Admirals Clubs even if they’re flying non-AA partners, e.g. Southwest, United.)

Declared Business Purposes or rental of a conference facility without a same day boarding pass will not suffice to allow access.

As far as we know, authorized guests accompanying a member do not have to present a same day boarding pass.

No discount is available for a household membership, which will cost $600 regardless of the sponsoring guest’s AAdvantage status.

One Day Passes are available at $59 per person, available for purchase at all Clubs except those where Club refurbishment or construction is going on (currently, ORD and PHL). One Day Passes are not available online.
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Old Sep 7, 19, 2:57 pm
  #316  
 
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Originally Posted by AAdmiral View Post


When I purchased Lifetime membership in 1990 there was no internet. I bought my lifetime membership at a city AA ticket office for $2000 and wasn’t given a pamphlet or any document outlining exact rules or benefits, just a receipt for my purchase. So to change terms and conditions wouldn’t I have to have been told what they were in the first place. All I was informed was to show the membership card and ID anytime I wanted to use the lounge. I wonder how many members have lifetime memberships versus total number of members and are there so many like me who would fill the club? I fly AA 95% of the time and also have AA Citi Exec Card which also gives me Admirals Club membership but I keep that for the other benefits. And being ConciergeKey have an Admirals Club membership as well so I actually have 3 memberships. I just want to be able to access the lounge maybe the one or two times a year I might when I’m not on AA. Again I wasn’t told in 1990 that we might change the rules in 29 years in 2019. I feel that AA should honor the rules in place for 1990 when I purchased my lifetime membership.
Im also a lifetime member, and I feel I have to take the good with the bad. When I joined there was no inclusive alcohol, no fresh food items, no showers, no internet, etc.. If I want to play the game of “I demand everything I had in my membership when I joined,” I’m going to lose in a BIG way.
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Old Sep 7, 19, 3:01 pm
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Originally Posted by Tanic View Post
It's rather obvious that permitting club access with possession of certain credit cards caused the overcrowding problem. Clubs were never crowded prior to that nexus. Locking out the small number of Lifetime Members will be virtually unnoticeable in fixing overcrowding.
If I recall correctly, the credit cards give AC membership, not just afford lounge access. It is just a different way of making the purchase of membership and they are members just as much as any others
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Old Sep 7, 19, 5:33 pm
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Originally Posted by JDiver View Post
Thank you for your attempt to invalidate my actual experience, which I’ll cheerfully discard as non sequitur. I will admit I have no idea what they told their secretary, colleagues, etc. And no, most managers would not be aware of the counseling, as that’s confidential information. The CEO or COO, a very few restricted HR employees might.

The point is the Admirals Club conference room served me well for years as an off site place to conduct confidential business.



I suspect AA will be a bit more alert about these following the change to day of flight access, given the C of C clearly states buying a ticket solely for access to airport facilities (without flying) is fraudulent and they may choose not to refund the ticket.

As to what’s fair, ethical, etc. AA typically has binding language such as this, in the current Club membership t & c:



That’s how it is. (They also cancelled TWA Ambassador Club lifetime membership.) But If we’re dissatisfied, we can cancel our membership. If that occurs sufficiently to lose significant revenue, perhaps AA will rethink some of their new policies.

There was a time when you could access the club when not even flying for a business meeting or day picking one up from a flight. You just told TSA you were going to the club and you were allowed access.
Overcrowding at certain clubs exists airline sells as many memberships as possible and how often one uses the club and where varies. But at all clubs there are slow periods especially at smaller airports and should not be a issue for someone flying another airline to use the club.
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Old Sep 8, 19, 5:33 am
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Originally Posted by Tanic View Post
It's rather obvious that permitting club access with possession of certain credit cards caused the overcrowding problem. Clubs were never crowded prior to that nexus. Locking out the small number of Lifetime Members will be virtually unnoticeable in fixing overcrowding.
Sure, to a small degree the airlines are selling more memberships than they did before they started bundling the membership subscriptions in with the credit card fees, but the actual overcrowding itself is largely a function of consolidation.

For example, the MCO club is the same square footage the US Airways Club was in its last iteration (just with slightly different space allocation) — with an exponentially higher pool of members to access it. Two of the three PHX clubs are the same size they were when only HP-eligible members and partners could access them — let alone the US members in the next generation, let alone the AA members in the third generation. I was just in the SFO club yesterday, look at the number of flights it now handles a day compared with when it opened/was designed. To boot, it’s only slightly larger than the old LUS SFO club was itself.
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Old Oct 7, 19, 8:59 pm
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What about an accompanying guest to the club. If I am flying out on the same day on AA, but a friend is flying out on UA for example. Can I bring them into the club as a guest?

Would I have have to play the game of buying then canceling a refundable ticket for them?
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Old Oct 7, 19, 9:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Casswiki View Post
What about an accompanying guest to the club. If I am flying out on the same day on AA, but a friend is flying out on UA for example. Can I bring them into the club as a guest?

Would I have have to play the game of buying then canceling a refundable ticket for them?
That's not a "game". It is fraud and contravenes the CoC.
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Old Oct 7, 19, 9:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Casswiki View Post
What about an accompanying guest to the club. If I am flying out on the same day on AA, but a friend is flying out on UA for example. Can I bring them into the club as a guest?

Would I have have to play the game of buying then canceling a refundable ticket for them?
AA is sure to crack down on this, if they hadn’t started already. The C of C expressly state this is fraudulent, and they can decline to refund such a ticket.
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Old Oct 7, 19, 11:00 pm
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What about an accompanying guest to the club. If I am flying out on the same day on AA, but a friend is flying out on UA for example. Can I bring them into the club as a guest?
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Old Oct 7, 19, 11:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Casswiki View Post
What about an accompanying guest to the club. If I am flying out on the same day on AA, but a friend is flying out on UA for example. Can I bring them into the club as a guest?
Are you a Club member? If so, yes, this month. Afterwards, according to the information AA has published and can be seen in post #1, it appears guests must have an AA board in pass for the same day, but that’s not dispositive. Your best bet if you’re a member is to call the Club members’ number. Please let us know what they say if you do, as AA often takes a long time to update information on dot com.

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Old Oct 8, 19, 6:38 am
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Originally Posted by JDiver View Post
AA is sure to crack down on this, if they hadn’t started already. The C of C expressly state this is fraudulent, and they can decline to refund such a ticket.
Yes, I would not chance this. If you're in good standing with a particular airline, there's no reason to willfully disregard the contract of the carriages.
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Old Oct 10, 19, 2:26 pm
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I have the Citi Executive WE card which has AC membership. Will be flying on BA out of LHR T3 just after November 1 and it will not be in conjunction with any AA flight nor is it a AA codeshare ticket. It’s just a BA ticket on BA metal. I would like to use the AC as I’ve done in the past.

The new rules state to gain access we need “same-day boarding passes on American Airlines or partner airlines.” For AC access, does flying BA require the ticket to be an AA codeshare to be considered a “partner airline” or does BA being a OW carrier suffice?

Really just interested in using the AC shower after a transatlantic VS flight and don’t want to have to clear immigration (I have a PriorityPass but the only T3 free showers available to PP holders are landslide).
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Old Oct 10, 19, 2:59 pm
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OW carriers are a subset of "partner airlines," so you should be fine.
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Old Oct 10, 19, 3:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Oakshadow View Post
I have the Citi Executive WE card which has AC membership. Will be flying on BA out of LHR T3 just after November 1 and it will not be in conjunction with any AA flight nor is it a AA codeshare ticket. It’s just a BA ticket on BA metal. I would like to use the AC as I’ve done in the past.

The new rules state to gain access we need “same-day boarding passes on American Airlines or partner airlines.” For AC access, does flying BA require the ticket to be an AA codeshare to be considered a “partner airline” or does BA being a OW carrier suffice?

Really just interested in using the AC shower after a transatlantic VS flight and don’t want to have to clear immigration (I have a PriorityPass but the only T3 free showers available to PP holders are landslide).
No you'll be granted access even if the ticket is on BA stock as BA is part of OW. Doesn't need to be marketed by American.

Any departing arriving flight: marketed or operated by American Airlines, marketed and operated by any oneworld® partner carrier, marketed and operated by American Airlines or Alaska Airlines in any combination
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Old Oct 11, 19, 5:10 am
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How about a gate pass passenger escorting one with mobility issues who does have an AC membership?
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Old Oct 11, 19, 6:16 am
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Originally Posted by IADCAflyer View Post
How about a gate pass passenger escorting one with mobility issues who does have an AC membership?
First hurdle would be getting the gate pass, and even upon reaching the lounge, there might be trouble. There was a report of an unsatisfactory experience in a similar situation.
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