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Aircraft Guide: Which 738 / 737-800 version, or 7M8 / 737 MAX 8?

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American Airlines currently operates two types of Boeing 737:

304 Boeing 737-800 (IATA / AA 738, ICAO B738) aircraft , with subtypes of 738.

Seat numeration in aircraft not refitted under Project Oasis in First shows 3-6. 16F 38-40” pitch, 30MCE 34”and Y114 32-33” (total 160).

Newer aircraft have Boeing Sky lighting and seatback IFE, all sport 110 VAC universal and 5 VDC USB ports. WiFi varies. See this Seatguru seat chart. The number of aircraft in this configuration will diminish over time, and sometime in 2021, will cease to exist as all 738s are refitted to Prije t Oasis standards.

24 Boeing 737 MAX 8 (IATA / AA 7M8, ICAO B38M) aircraft (85 more on order). F16, MCE24 including exit row seats, Y132 (172 total). Link to SeatGuru seat chart, presumably usable for Project Oasis 738 conversions.

7M8: Seat numeration in all 7M8 and Project Oasis refitted 738s in First shows rows 1-4. The First class seat is the same seat AA uses in widebody Premium Economy, Rockwell Collins MiQ, though without a foot rest, with seat tray in the side arm rest, with 37” pitch.

The 7M8 and refit 738 Main Cabin Extra and Main Cabin Seats are Rockwell Collins Meridian ultraslimline design with 33” MCE, 30” Coach. Lavatories (29” in F, 24” in Y) are ultra slim design, much narrower than original 738 lavs.

The Boeing Sky lighting adapted from the 787 is used, and the overhead bins are the oversized Space bin taking six standard rollaboards on their side, as opposed to four on their back. Seat power is universal plug 110 VAC and 5 VDC USB. WiFi is VIASAT, IFE is WiFi served to BYOD Free.

738: The legacy AA 738 fleet is pretty diverse, and most aircraft are currently configured F16, MCE30, Y114 = 160 total seats. F pitch is 38”, MCE 34” mostly, Y 31-32”. They are being already refitted to 7M8 standard, and the process will take us through 2021.

738 “Classic” with drop down screens and WiFi served in flight entertainment and mostly VSAT WiFi (for specifics for each aircraft see AA unofficial fleet site page here).

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738 “Enhanced”, with seatback in flight entertainment and GoGo cellular WiFi (for specifics for each aircraft see AA unofficial fleet site page here.

AA has begun refitting all 738 aircraft to 7M8 cabin configuration under “Project Oasis”; completion expected by 2021.

For the 737 MAX 8 (and 738 configured to Project Oasis standards), see:

This seat chart on Seatguru, drawn for the 7M8.

AA 737 MAX 8 SSW / 7M8 aircraft in service Nov 2017 (discussion)

Aircraft Guide: AA Boeing 737 MAX 8 / 7M8 First / Business Seats, Etc.

Aircraft Guide: AA Boeing 737 MAX 8 / 7M8 Main Cabin, MCE Seats, Etc.

738-7M8 equipment / seat change FAQ.

Q. If there’s an equipment change, will AA notify me?

Generally, not.

Q. Will AA try to change me to a comparable (Exit row, MCE, window or aisle, etc.) Seat?

Generally, no. AA apparently hasn’t the means to do this.

Q. How can I protect myself against equipment and seat changes?

You can’t, really. All you can do is to check your PNR / itinerary online regularly, and more frequently as you get closer to departure, to determine if you’ve experienced an equipment switch. If you do, try to be agile and reselect a suitable seat. (If you paid for MCE, request getting your money back if you’re unable to select another.)

And at a hub, you can even experience an equipment change at the gate if there’s a mechanical or the incoming flight is late.

Q. Can I ask AA change my flights if I experience 738-7M8 equipment change affecting my seating?

Likely not, as this is considered by AA as part of the “we don’t guarantee seat reservations “ policy.

Q. How long will this last? How frequently will this happen?

7M8s have just begun joining the fleet. The Project Oasis refit is expected to last into 2021. The chances of equipment change affecting seat selection will increase until the preponderance of the 737 fleet is in the 737 MAX 8 configuration, and will decrease thereafter until the legacy 737-800s are all refitted.
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Old Jul 8, 17, 12:18 pm
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Traveling JFK-SAN on AA First Class. AA uses two versions of B738, Will this "trans-continental" B738 have personal IFE? Thanks!
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I do not know the answer to your question, but a moderator has been asked to move it to the AA forum where AA-related questions belong.
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Bring your own entertainment. Then you won't be disappointed.
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Traveling JFK-SAN on AA First Class. AA uses two versions of B738, Will this "trans-continental" B738 have personal IFE? Thanks!
I believe you are confused on the equipment. The only transcontinental non-stop equipment I see on AA.com is all A321, I'm under the impression they are out of the dedicated transcon configuration subfleet. Which we only saw briefly in DFW as a redeye about a year ago.

I have never flown that configuration or that route but somebody here almost certainly has and can fill you in. Or probably some information online since those they are really proud of the sub-fleet.
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IMO, you're confusing A321 and B738.

A321 has -S domestic version, -H ETOPS version - both two class. There's also a -T transcon three class version.

738 is two class, and many, not all, have seatback IFE. The 737-8 MAX will have onboard Internet server with IFE streamed via WiFi; narrowbodies without seatback IFE will pretty much have this. Those with seatback IFE will still have it.

Your JFK-SAN 738 will either have or not have seatback IFE, and it's not predictable.

See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...ec-2013-a.html, and http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...s-ife-etc.html for a list of links to AA aircraft and related threads.
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Bring your own entertainment. Then you won't be disappointed.
Since even if they have IFE it's pretty lackluster.
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Roughly 25% of the fleet has AVOD (seat back entertainment), the rest has overhead monitors. There is no way to know what you will be getting till about 24 hours before departure (and even then, equipment swaps are possible.)

So at the very least, overhead monitors, at best, seatback AVOD. Plan accordingly.

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I believe you are confused on the equipment. The only transcontinental non-stop equipment I see on AA.com is all A321, I'm under the impression they are out of the dedicated transcon configuration subfleet. Which we only saw briefly in DFW as a redeye about a year ago.
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IMO, you're confusing A321 and B738.

A321 has -S domestic version, -H ETOPS version - both two class. There's also a -T transcon three class version.
I think you two are just misunderstanding the OP. It's a transcontinental flight, in the most literal sense of the term.

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Roughly 25% of the fleet has AVOD (seat back entertainment), the rest has overhead monitors. There is no way to know what you will be getting till about 24 hours before departure (and even then, equipment swaps are possible.)

So at the very least, overhead monitors, at best, seatback AVOD. Plan accordingly.





I think you two are just misunderstanding the OP. It's a transcontinental flight, in the most literal sense of the term.
Yes, it's transcontinental, but nothing at all special or markedly different than a midcon other that it's hella longer and the slimline seat cushion feels like Sakrete after the first few hours.

For entertainment one will enjoy, BYO.
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Traveling JFK-SAN on AA First Class. AA uses two versions of B738, Will this "trans-continental" B738 have personal IFE? Thanks!
JFK-SAN is scheduled as a non-PTV 737, but there's always the chance of a swap. What day are you flying?
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Originally Posted by Djokison View Post

I think you two are just misunderstanding the OP. It's a transcontinental flight, in the most literal sense of the term.
+1 ... I think the OP is just trying to understand if there will be seatback entertainment on this coast to coast flight (not as an AA branded transcontinental routes).



OP - it is hard (maybe impossible) to say with certainty which version/vintage of the 738 you will get. However I believe all versions have WiFi (debatable on usability), in seat power and either streaming video or setback monitor (or both).
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I flew SAN - JFK 2 months ago and got upgraded. There is no IFE in First Class and instead FA give you tablet & headphones to use during the flight.
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I am due to fly from MIA>AUA on AA2217 on July 29 and return AUA>MIA on AA1028 on August 19.

What type of inflight entertainment can I expect, the aircraft should be 738 (B737-800)? The AA website shows 2 different aircraft configs. Plus there is no info available on the entertainment page.

I will be flying in J, although the website only shows refers to First, Main Cabin Extra and Main Cabin. I think that the F has been changed to J now. My ticket states J.

It seems it may be overhead screens/streaming or seat-back screens.

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F / J .... whatever everyone wants to call it .... you'll be in the forward cabin.

For IFE, you just won't know until you board. A percentage of the 737s have seatback screens, but a majority don't. The ones that don't will have an overhead screen and streaming entertainment with movie / tv choices you can watch on your own device (ipad, laptop, etc) for free.
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I flew SAN - JFK 2 months ago and got upgraded. There is no IFE in First Class and instead FA give you tablet & headphones to use during the flight.
Flew JFK-SAN this week on an older (non-AVOD) 738 and was pleasantly surprised to receive the Samsung tablets on this route.

AA certainly used to do this all the time on this route and other TCONs, but for some reason I thought they had done away with it.

Not everyone accepted the tablets, which was a good thing for my seatmate, as it took three tries for him to get one that worked. Also, a first... FAs didn't collect them until literally right before landing (usually it's 45 minutes to an hour before IME).
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