Sep 27, 2018, 5:52 pm
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Please see AA just received first Airbus A321neo /32Q 1 Feb 2019,
AA new A321neo / 32Q / A321-253NX First / Business RC MiQ seats
AA new A321neo / 32Q / A321-253NX RC Meridian Main Cabin / MCE seats
for further information and discussion.
AA new A321neo / 32Q / A321-253NX First / Business RC MiQ seats
AA new A321neo / 32Q / A321-253NX RC Meridian Main Cabin / MCE seats
for further information and discussion.
These aircraftvwill be delivered with 20F, 176Y - including 47 MCE seats defined below (F20, Y/MCE47, Y129).
American outlines A321neo network in 2Q19
By Jim Liu, Routes Online link
Posted 23 December 2018 13:50
American Airlines during the weekend of 23DEC18’s schedule update filed planned Airbus A321neo routes, under aircraft code 32Q. Planned A321neo service is scheduled for the second quarter of 2019, with configuration of F20 Y176.
LAX – MCO 02APR19 – 02MAY19 1 daily (AA2361/219)
PHX – ANC 06JUN19 – 19AUG19 1 daily (AA1413/1372)
PHX – LAX 02APR19 – 02MAY19 1 daily (AA820/1895)
PHX – MCO 02APR19 – 02MAY19 1 daily (AA682/1022; Except 21APR19)
(Hawaii requires AA possess, test and secure FAA approval for 32Q ETOPS rating, possibly a reason for these inaugural overland routes?)
Eventually the A321neo is to replace all Hawaii service A321H and 757 aircraft, and deploy on non-JFK-LAX or JFK-SFO routes.
AA Airbus A321neo, c/o ch aviation
JonNYC: MCE is row 8-11, 17 (overwing exit), 27 (exit row, 5 seats in row,) 18-21 (D,E,F)
AA will install Viasat Ka-band inflight connectivity on the entire A321neo fleet.
According to David Seymour, American’s Senior Vice President of Integrated Operations, when they take the A321neo starting in January “that will actually serve as the platform to get certification for our refurbishment and standardization of the 321s... so we can go common configuration.” That effort will start in February.
LAA “32B”: F16 (38” pitch), Y165 including 38 MCE (181 total seat count)
LUS A321: F16 (36” pitch), Y171 including 18 MCE (187 total seat count)
(Note: Delta A321 has 192 seats.)
The seats have been described in the previous retrofit / CIP thread as
F will match the LUS 321 36” pitch, MCE and Y likely will be reduced to 737 MAX standards.
Airbus 32Q / A321neo densified w/ 196 seats as of 2019
Sep 27, 2018, 5:36 pm
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20F isnt bad though. That's an upgrade from 12 or 16 today.
So not all gloom and doom.
So not all gloom and doom.
Sep 27, 2018, 6:55 pm
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So, forgive my ignorance, but it was previously reported that "Project Oasis" to the current A321 aircraft would harmonize the LAA and LUS fleet to 190 seats. Does this new announcement mean 196 seats across all A321 fleet now, or will the neos have 6 more seats?
Here's the article from The Points Guy: https://thepointsguy.com/2017/09/aa-...ch-737s-a321s/
Here's the article from The Points Guy: https://thepointsguy.com/2017/09/aa-...ch-737s-a321s/
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Lucky at OMAAT previously reported
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So I take it that these 321neos have the fuselage design of the 321neoLRs with regards to the lack of doors 2 L/R and overwing exits in their place? AA is just not installing the two extra fuel tank option (and which makes it "LR")?
Sep 27, 2018, 11:35 pm
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Lots of LUS 321's in SAN, nice to see increases in MCE to 47, F to 20. Those who choose "free agency" can enjoy the Y 29" pitch.
Sep 28, 2018, 7:07 am
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If they are standardizing the entire LUS/LAA fleet to this new seating config, then the existing 2L/2R exit doors will still require some space for safe egress during an emergency, which means these roomy exit rows would likely remain.
The A321NEO "LR" variant with the 2 over wing exit doors has been undergoing testing this year. Do we know if AA has ordered any of those specific variants? It's got impressive numbers, considering it's claim as being the longest range single aisle airliner in the market.
The A321NEO "LR" variant with the 2 over wing exit doors has been undergoing testing this year. Do we know if AA has ordered any of those specific variants? It's got impressive numbers, considering it's claim as being the longest range single aisle airliner in the market.
Sep 28, 2018, 7:52 am
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Currently no LRs in order, no. (Though I’m sure they could easily convert current A321NEO to the LR if they wanted to.)
She’ll be very interesting for Deep South America flights from MIA and Europe flights from the Northeast.
Sep 28, 2018, 8:02 am
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While not matched in all performance areas, the LR looks to be the closest thing to a 757 replacement. And the cabin comfort is a slight step ahead with 7" more width than the Boeing counterpart narrowbodies (737/757).
I can see the market picking up for this one over the coming years as the 757's head off to the boneyards or freighters to join the 767 and 747 All great aircraft for their time, but far less efficient than what's out there now.
I can see the market picking up for this one over the coming years as the 757's head off to the boneyards or freighters to join the 767 and 747 All great aircraft for their time, but far less efficient than what's out there now.
Sep 28, 2018, 8:17 am
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I like how the metric is "at least it's only a few more seats than Delta" 
Sep 28, 2018, 8:19 am
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Not sure if it's been publicly stated, but I can't see a way to fit a mix of 196 seats consisting of 20 36" F, an unknown number of 34" MCE and standard Y without reducing the Y pitch.
Just adding another row of F would remove a row of Y and take us down to 185 (20F/165Y) total seats. So, now how to convert 29 rows of 165 30-31" pitch Y seats into a mix of 176 MCE + Y seats? Reducing 2" from all 29 Y rows gives them about 58" more room to do this. If they want MCE, they will have to trim down the Y pitch. I don't imagine there will be many MCE seats with this seating volume. Maybe they will just continue to just be the exit and bulkhead rows.
Just adding another row of F would remove a row of Y and take us down to 185 (20F/165Y) total seats. So, now how to convert 29 rows of 165 30-31" pitch Y seats into a mix of 176 MCE + Y seats? Reducing 2" from all 29 Y rows gives them about 58" more room to do this. If they want MCE, they will have to trim down the Y pitch. I don't imagine there will be many MCE seats with this seating volume. Maybe they will just continue to just be the exit and bulkhead rows.
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Not sure if it's been publicly stated, but I can't see a way to fit a mix of 196 seats consisting of 20 36" F, an unknown number of 34" MCE and standard Y without reducing the Y pitch.
Just adding another row of F would remove a row of Y and take us down to 185 (20F/165Y) total seats. So, now how to convert 29 rows of 165 30-31" pitch Y seats into a mix of 176 MCE + Y seats? Reducing 2" from all 29 Y rows gives them about 58" more room to do this. If they want MCE, they will have to trim down the Y pitch. I don't imagine there will be many MCE seats with this seating volume. Maybe they will just continue to just be the exit and bulkhead rows.
Just adding another row of F would remove a row of Y and take us down to 185 (20F/165Y) total seats. So, now how to convert 29 rows of 165 30-31" pitch Y seats into a mix of 176 MCE + Y seats? Reducing 2" from all 29 Y rows gives them about 58" more room to do this. If they want MCE, they will have to trim down the Y pitch. I don't imagine there will be many MCE seats with this seating volume. Maybe they will just continue to just be the exit and bulkhead rows.
The camel’s back must be getting pretty sore with all the straws...
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