Free agency. An AA loyalist no more - YMMV
#61
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Over the years I have seen an awful lot of threads like this here in the AA forum as well as in the BA forum, the two that I look at regularly since that's where the majority of my travel is. I'm curious and have a question for those of you who are familiar with both UA and DL forums -- are these "I've had it with this airline" threads just as common there? Is it that basically we all get frustrated sometimes and look for greener pastures? Or do you think for some reasons that many of us are familiar with that AA and BA get more derision on FT?
Operationally and in terms of service people generally are happy. There have been a few major meltdowns in the past few years, but otherwise they're reliable. You find fewer "bad" crews - i.e., less variability. That said, their version of MCE requires you to "upgrade" into it. It can be capacity controlled and there are windows for 50k/25k level elites (72/24 hours), which isn't great (but exit row seats can be booked any time by 25k+ elites). And FC and their "flagship" DeltaOne J domestically have seen catering go downhill as they aggressively try to monetize first class sales (often selling cheap upgrades to non-elite; AA's LFBU doesn't come into play until all elites who want can be accommodated).
#62
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Over the years I have seen an awful lot of threads like this here in the AA forum as well as in the BA forum, the two that I look at regularly since that's where the majority of my travel is. I'm curious and have a question for those of you who are familiar with both UA and DL forums -- are these "I've had it with this airline" threads just as common there? Is it that basically we all get frustrated sometimes and look for greener pastures? Or do you think for some reasons that many of us are familiar with that AA and BA get more derision on FT?
#63
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There are plenty of 'I'm done with this airline' threads on the DL and UA forums. I find it interesting that, more than ten years after the DL/NW merger, some people are still whining endlessly - but continue buying DL tickets enough to be Plat & Diamond because they haven't found anything better.
#64
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K can easily be $900 more r/t over lowest available main cabin (e.g., NYC-PAR Nov/Dec), obviously more than AA's $700 r/t copay, but also you're out the cash whether you clear the upgrade or not. And I think it's way more than 25k miles each way. No thanks!
I think there are a lot of constraints, especially on AF/KL flights and VS may require high fares too. Probably somewhat better than what AAdvantage offers on IB/BA. I'm personally not that familiar with partner upgrades via SkyMiles, but the rules are kind of confusing (e.g., it says AF/KLM must be from Y/B/M fare but also says AF is "from Economy to Premium Economy to Business" which doesn't make sense.
and Delta miles can also be used to upgrade AF, KL, VS and AM flights.
#65
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Delta H, Q and K fares are upgradeable with miles on long-haul, and Delta miles can also be used to upgrade AF, KL, VS and AM flights.
There are plenty of 'I'm done with this airline' threads on the DL and UA forums. I find it interesting that, more than ten years after the DL/NW merger, some people are still whining endlessly - but continue buying DL tickets enough to be Plat & Diamond because they haven't found anything better.
There are plenty of 'I'm done with this airline' threads on the DL and UA forums. I find it interesting that, more than ten years after the DL/NW merger, some people are still whining endlessly - but continue buying DL tickets enough to be Plat & Diamond because they haven't found anything better.
In my case ((2) doesn't apply) but (3) does, I have 5 SWU left, I (sort of) have to continue flying AA for awhile.
#66
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I've been EP for 3 years now, having switched away from AS/DL. I will re-qual for EP in November and I have been more than satisfied with AA. On-time, service, EP perks and award availability. I just flew back to LAX from MIA in paid F/C and the service was great. Food, wine and seat were as good if not better than anything I remember on AS or DL. In fact, I personally find DL to be coolly efficient and a bit full of themselves, I'm one that prefers UA to DL. There are always going to be service failures with any airline. It's expected. I book longer than normal connections and use the EP line if it looks like I might have an issue, and always receive great care. I get that YMMV, but to those that believe DL/UA and all others not coded AA are far superior? I just don't see it that way. Align expectations with reality and you'll be much happier. Cheers!