LAA and LUS Flight Attendants’ Consolidation October 1 2018
Sep 4, 2018, 1:50 pm
#16
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The question is will one side lose something they like, for example ease of trading trips. Most of the FA seemed happy as it will open the opportunity to work new routes and nicer LAA a/c (772, 777, 788, 789). In addition, there will be opportunity to transfer to other bases. A few months back I met a CLT based FA living in MIA very happy at the prospect of eventually transferring to MIA and no need for commuting. About a month back I met a MIA based flight attendant living in TN looking forward to being able to transfer to CLT (and therefore a much easier commute.)
Sep 4, 2018, 1:53 pm
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the pdb situation is crazy. 100% of the time I get them from the Usair folks. Zero percent of the time I get them from aa folks. No exceptions. This is clearly not a coincidence and I can imagine us and aa fa’s fighting in the galley over whether to give them or not.
Sep 4, 2018, 5:40 pm
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Sep 4, 2018, 7:12 pm
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Hopefully nothing! But FAs that I've talked to expect at least a little disruption.
https://mailchi.mp/apfa/a-message-of...ase-presidents
"A few weeks have passed since the Company presented their new attendance/performance policy with a planned implementation date of October 1, 2018. That same day, they will finally achieve what they have been trying to accomplish since 2015; Full Operational Integration (FOI)...Fast forward to October 1st. The Company will be implementing the full JCBA language on the LUS side which includes TTS/UBL, ETB, ROTA, ROTA-D, JCBA PBS, and Rotating Reserve. On top of all of these changes, we will be navigating through a new attendance policy. Our membership has enough stress and anxiety over the changes coming with FOI and the frustration of dealing with the Company’s IT failures."
https://mailchi.mp/apfa/a-message-of...ase-presidents
"A few weeks have passed since the Company presented their new attendance/performance policy with a planned implementation date of October 1, 2018. That same day, they will finally achieve what they have been trying to accomplish since 2015; Full Operational Integration (FOI)...Fast forward to October 1st. The Company will be implementing the full JCBA language on the LUS side which includes TTS/UBL, ETB, ROTA, ROTA-D, JCBA PBS, and Rotating Reserve. On top of all of these changes, we will be navigating through a new attendance policy. Our membership has enough stress and anxiety over the changes coming with FOI and the frustration of dealing with the Company’s IT failures."
Sep 4, 2018, 7:58 pm
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I had a fantastic PMAA FA who not only did PDB but also provided excellent overall service on DCA-MIA. I told her I wanted to get her name so I could leave a compliment and she told me it was her last week at AA, leaving for a better job...
Sep 5, 2018, 9:27 am
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The LUS FAs successfully trained the LAA FAs to do credit card pitches, so hopefully the LUS FAs can use the same techniques to motivate LAA FAs to do PDBs consistently. However, the cynic in me says we will get the worst of LUS and LAA - inconsistent PDBs and consistent credit card pitches.
Sep 5, 2018, 10:31 am
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The LUS FAs successfully trained the LAA FAs to do credit card pitches, so hopefully the LUS FAs can use the same techniques to motivate LAA FAs to do PDBs consistently. However, the cynic in me says we will get the worst of LUS and LAA - inconsistent PDBs and consistent credit card pitches.
Sep 5, 2018, 4:45 pm
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I did get tweetbacks with the same old ‘we’ll make sure proper channels are informed malarkey.
I was feeling cheeky so asked the FA on the Mia-dca flight why he didn’t do PDAs. He hemmed and hawed about how they are only done ‘if time permits’ and oh my goodness what a harried boarding it was (it was not).
But apparently thats the technicality they refer to when called out.
Later in the flight he asked me what I did for a living. Still feeling cheeky I said ‘I do quality control consulting for large companies.’ He just kind of stared at me and handed me my refill.
I was feeling cheeky so asked the FA on the Mia-dca flight why he didn’t do PDAs. He hemmed and hawed about how they are only done ‘if time permits’ and oh my goodness what a harried boarding it was (it was not).
But apparently thats the technicality they refer to when called out.
Later in the flight he asked me what I did for a living. Still feeling cheeky I said ‘I do quality control consulting for large companies.’ He just kind of stared at me and handed me my refill.
Sep 5, 2018, 6:42 pm
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Having sat at a hotel bar this evening where there are 2 downroute LAA crews on a layover, all I can say is that they are not looking forward to having both crews merged. Quietly reading my book enjoying my beer, there was no mistaking their comments.
In fact, how they openly discussed their colleagues and with such language, it was beggars belief.
In fact, how they openly discussed their colleagues and with such language, it was beggars belief.
Sep 5, 2018, 7:20 pm
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Having sat at a hotel bar this evening where there are 2 downroute LAA crews on a layover, all I can say is that they are not looking forward to having both crews merged. Quietly reading my book enjoying my beer, there was no mistaking their comments.
In fact, how they openly discussed their colleagues and with such language, it was beggars belief.
In fact, how they openly discussed their colleagues and with such language, it was beggars belief.