AA route changes announced 21 Aug 2018, inc cutting ORD-PVG
Aug 21, 2018, 2:46 pm
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Aug 21, 2018, 3:03 pm
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It's not supposed to be competition since AA and BA have a revenue-sharing joint venture. But the 772 is a definite upgrade to the 747. At this point, I'd say all of the AA business class offerings are superior to Club World on any aircraft, with the possible exception of AA's 75L.
Aug 21, 2018, 3:04 pm
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Aug 21, 2018, 3:06 pm
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Aug 21, 2018, 3:12 pm
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The PHX Sky Harbor airport press release (linked above) states that BA will continue their daily service, augmented with AA's seasonal daily service for a total of 14 weekly flights next summer. So, it appears that BA's extra 3X weekly seasonal flights will not return next summer.
Aug 21, 2018, 3:27 pm
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It's 3x week, which is appropriate for a leisure locale. The video accompanying the press release explained that they have used the data from their JV with BA to look at where people were connecting to in London. That is where they came up with the new routes (in addition to previous adds PRG and BUD). If enough people are double-connecting XXX-PHL/JFK/ORD-LHR-DBV they can provide a more attractive and more cost-effective connection XXX-PHL-DBV.
There maybe a cruise here and there that starts in DBV but most start from VCE
If they cant make FRA or MUC work, I just dont see how DBV will work absent the beef= biz travel .
Just cause a US carrier can make $$$ on a Buffalo routing (Niagra Falls) doesnt mean a foreign carrier can make $$ flying non-stop from Europe to Buffalo, which is AA is doing by flying to DBV
Aug 21, 2018, 3:31 pm
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All leisure for me but as a West Coast based flyer, I don’t find PHL attractive as a connection- mostly crappy planes LAX-PHL (true iof most trans cons besides JFK) and it adds so much to the flight time vs a direct TATL ; I prefer to transfer at LHR if I can snag the 77W lax-lhr.
Given LAX-JFK frequencies, never a tight connection there if one doesn’t want it.
Given LAX-JFK frequencies, never a tight connection there if one doesn’t want it.
Aug 21, 2018, 4:20 pm
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All leisure for me but as a West Coast based flyer, I don’t find PHL attractive as a connection- mostly crappy planes LAX-PHL (true iof most trans cons besides JFK) and it adds so much to the flight time vs a direct TATL ; I prefer to transfer at LHR if I can snag the 77W lax-lhr.
Given LAX-JFK frequencies, never a tight connection there if one doesn’t want it.
Given LAX-JFK frequencies, never a tight connection there if one doesn’t want it.
Aug 21, 2018, 6:33 pm
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Aug 21, 2018, 6:54 pm
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It seems clear that PHL is becoming a major TA hub for AA. My guess is that it provides optimal connections from the West and South, but also lets them focus their JFK slots on profitable flights for the NYC market. I wouldn't be shocked to see them widdle JFK down to just LAX, SFO and LHR at the rate they're going. 
Aug 21, 2018, 7:07 pm
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china is just full of freeloaders and cannot afford the better price. Only 2 posts talk about those flight in a non discriptive of facts way shows how little demand there is
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Aug 21, 2018, 7:23 pm
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I appreciate that PHL fliers might appreciate this option but the broad *A service to all of Croatia's major airports is far better than a single TATL flight on a janky old 767. I'd much rather fly to FRA, MUC, or VIE and connect on to DBV. From a OneWorld perspective, however, this would be nice as the BA flights to DBV usually go via LGW vs LHR. I visit Croatia at least 2x a year to see family and have completely given up on OW - Star Alliance is far more convenient. Interestingly, my family in Dalmatia isn't too excited about 3 flights a week of Ma and Pa Kettles gearing up for their Game of Thrones Tour in "Kings Landing". My advice - skip Dubrovnik and head south to Montenegro - it's a short drive. And please, no matter what, don't visit Mljet or any of the other islands. They are awful, horrible places... promise... you really won't like them 