AA adding MIA-HOU/GRR/PVD/RSW/BUF
#17
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Even assuming other fare buckets open up at a more reasonable rate, the timing of the flights aren’t exactly great... the incoming flight lands at PVD at nearly midnight while the return flight would depart PVD at 6am... I’m sorry to say but I don’t see this new nonstop lasting very long.
#18
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Agree though regarding the PVD timing; 06:00 departure and a late return (almost midnight); ouch. Not to mention the A319, which is a tough upgrade. I'll definitely stick with the six or seven non-stops we have from BOS, LOL.
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I hate to ask, but what routes are getting cut to make room for these new flights? Unless AA is adding new aircraft to its fleet.
#20
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Fair question. At least with regard to the PVD flight, I have to assume there was a spare A319 that would overnight in MIA given the departure time from MIA.
#21
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All I can say is that I hope they’ve only loaded some fares and that others are yet to come... just took a look at MIA to PVD for Dec 21 to 27 and it’s pricing at $2,165 in coach and $2,615 in first compared to BOS at $482 coach and $954 first for the same dates.
Even assuming other fare buckets open up at a more reasonable rate, the timing of the flights aren’t exactly great... the incoming flight lands at PVD at nearly midnight while the return flight would depart PVD at 6am... I’m sorry to say but I don’t see this new nonstop lasting very long.
#22
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The flights are timed to connect to the primary Carribbean bank at MIA. The flights leave MIA between 10 and 11 am and return between 6 and 7 pm. The Caribbean is the primary market for the PVD/BUF flights since the domestic yields are generally trash thanks the the heavy LCC/ULCC presence between these cities and Florida.
But then again, some of AA's moves in the area leave me scratching my head - such as the ORH operations to PHL. I'd actually consider a connecting flight into ORH as it's ultimately more convenient to where I'm visiting when I'm up that way as compared to BOS, but for half the year (winter months) it's just too risky of a proposition. Personally I would have loved to see service to CLT, as that would have provided for a much more comfortable buffer so to speak (in the sense that it's far enough and south enough away from ORH that winter weather would be much less of risk to missed connections).
#23
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Great news and long overdue for Providence and Buffalo. I will continue to daydream that ROC/SYR/ALB are all in the queue.
I guess if you fly to Topeka every week and live in Galveston it's a fine airport. For everybody else, it's nothing to get excited about.
I guess if you fly to Topeka every week and live in Galveston it's a fine airport. For everybody else, it's nothing to get excited about.
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The flights are timed to connect to the primary Carribbean bank at MIA. The flights leave MIA between 10 and 11 am and return between 6 and 7 pm. The Caribbean is the primary market for the PVD/BUF flights since the domestic yields are generally trash thanks the the heavy LCC/ULCC presence between these cities and Florida.
#25
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It is a small airport but easy to navigate, well laid out, baggage doesn't take 1+ hours to hit the carousel routinely.
#26
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PHL and CLT have no where near the breadth of Carribbean destinations MIA does, especially those not embracing mass tourism.
#28
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I'd take an E175 (GRR to MIA) over a 737-800 or NEO any day of the week in any cabin of service... The longest E175 flights I can recall are ORDABQ, PHLIAH (many many times), and EWREYW (though on UA for the latter) and none of those flights stick out at being particularly bad. If anything, this is an ideal aircraft for the routing. CRJ200s are a different story entirely...
#29
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I'd take an E175 (GRR to MIA) over a 737-800 or NEO any day of the week in any cabin of service... The longest E175 flights I can recall are ORDABQ, PHLIAH (many many times), and EWREYW (though on UA for the latter) and none of those flights stick out at being particularly bad. If anything, this is an ideal aircraft for the routing. CRJ200s are a different story entirely...