AA and CLT / Charlotte Douglas Airport Expansion
#32
Join Date: Nov 2003
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At this point, much of what they are doing at CLT is lipstick on a pig.
#33
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: New York, NY
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Saying CLT is one of the better AA hubs is not really saying a lot. AA's hubs are worst of the legacy carriers, sans maybe DFW and MIA which are quite efficient and have decent amenities. CLT has become and absolute hot mess with the amount of traffic AA is cramming into that tiny airport. It's rare I am not waiting for a gate when pulling in and, as others have mentioned, taxi times out can be highly variable. As for the terminals themselves, it's to the point that I never even bother to try to use any of the concessions at CLT - too crowded. Even if they weren't crowded the options are kinda gross. Most eateries seem to serve variations of slop that is fried, slathered in BBQ sauce, carb heavy, or some combination of the three. Maybe one or two places are decent but in general the food is really low-brow. The AC is so outdated it's not even funny and I agree with everyone on here that they need one in the Port Authority terminal that is E and a larger option over near A/B.
At this point, much of what they are doing at CLT is lipstick on a pig.
At this point, much of what they are doing at CLT is lipstick on a pig.
#34
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: MIA
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Sure, things could be better, but with what... 90% of flights in CLT, CLT isn't going to displaced any time soon within AA's system. Most of my EXP was through the Shuttle, so I don't have much of a dog in this fight. I guess we'll just have to stay tuned to the Terminal B AC renovation to see how that pans out.
#35
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: PHL
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A thread about CLT and there are still shots at PHL.
PHL's B and C terminal renovations are miles ahead of what CLT looks like these days. That being said, I've never had an issue connecting in CLT, other than fighting the crowds. Food options are pretty bad and could be improved, though.
PHL's B and C terminal renovations are miles ahead of what CLT looks like these days. That being said, I've never had an issue connecting in CLT, other than fighting the crowds. Food options are pretty bad and could be improved, though.
#36
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Really there are two tiers of AA Hub Top: JFK, ORD, LAX, DFW, MIA, Bottom: CLT, PHL, PHX, LGA. The inherited LUS hubs are of a much lesser product. Its sad that AA is focusing on the LUS Hubs because they were more "cost effective" and that is reflected in the product the have.
Mods should consider creating a new Thread, titled: "What do you hate about the new (merged) AA ? " and move any related comments to it. This continuous injection of AA/US hate into unrelated threads is creating a very negative aura, which is inconsistent with the historical values of FlyerTalk, at least IMO.
#37
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Really there are two tiers of AA Hub Top: JFK, ORD, LAX, DFW, MIA, Bottom: CLT, PHL, PHX, LGA. The inherited LUS hubs are of a much lesser product. Its sad that AA is focusing on the LUS Hubs because they were more "cost effective" and that is reflected in the product the have.
With the exception of DFW, which gives the impression of having been been built solely by and for AA, AA often needs airport improvements at its hubs, which it is not totally in control of, to be able to make its own improvements at those hubs.
Last edited by sdsearch; Jul 13, 2018 at 9:27 pm
#38
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: MIA
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Are there any updates for the AC in B reno? I haven’t seen CLT mentioned in the AC news letter.
I checked in on this thread only because it looks like I’ll be looking at CLT connections in my future.
I checked in on this thread only because it looks like I’ll be looking at CLT connections in my future.
#39
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Let’s keep this thread focused on the CLT expansion, rather than rehashing yet more LUS/LAA debate. Thank you!
~Moderator
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#42
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Email I got from AA this week for my upcoming connection through CLT said "we look forward to welcoming you to a new Terminal B Admiral's Club in 2019."
#44
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: DCA | DEN
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With or without a CLT expansion - I try to avoid CLT in or outbound to/from DCA. If there’s crappy weather on the east coast it is lousy in both places. I would rather be stuck in ORD or DFW inbound, and outbound if things are bad I just go home from DCA. But if its early AM and the a/c has been here overnight and I go thru either DFW or ORD to points west I usually make it. CLT is not reliable in bad weather.
Whats annoying is AA booking for me fm DCA defaults almost always to the CLT connection. I have to try multi city instead and usually that works.
Whats annoying is AA booking for me fm DCA defaults almost always to the CLT connection. I have to try multi city instead and usually that works.
Last edited by AATrout; Jul 17, 2018 at 8:08 am
#45
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Categorizing the LUS Hubs as 2nd Tier is quite disingenuous.The LUS Hubs were all developed by the exceptionally conservative USAir(ways) team.The AA Hubs were developed during the pre-bankrupt, long gone, super cash rich heydays of AA, when competition from LCCs was minuscule.
Mods should consider creating a new Thread, titled: "What do you hate about the new (merged) AA ? " and move any related comments to it. This continuous injection of AA/US hate into unrelated threads is creating a very negative aura, which is inconsistent with the historical values of FlyerTalk, at least IMO.
Mods should consider creating a new Thread, titled: "What do you hate about the new (merged) AA ? " and move any related comments to it. This continuous injection of AA/US hate into unrelated threads is creating a very negative aura, which is inconsistent with the historical values of FlyerTalk, at least IMO.
The issue is more likely the city of Charlotte itself. They are happy to have a hub when its questionable that they should, and their value prop to AA is being as cheap as possible. But nothing is stopping Charlotte from making itself better other than the fear of rocking the boat.