Rude premium checkin at DFW
#1
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Join Date: Sep 2009
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Rude premium checkin at DFW
Why must AA consistently disappoint? Flying on a paid F fare to HNL today. Placed my and my wifes ID on the desk for the gate agent (K Ko) he made me take my ID off the counter and hand it to him on his other side. He was surly and rude the whole encounter, handing the BP to us without saying a word. Perhaps we should have used the automated main kiosk and avoided human interaction and much as possible.
#3
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Why must AA consistently disappoint? Flying on a paid F fare to HNL today. Placed my and my wifes ID on the desk for the gate agent (K Ko) he made me take my ID off the counter and hand it to him on his other side. He was surly and rude the whole encounter, handing the BP to us without saying a word. Perhaps we should have used the automated main kiosk and avoided human interaction and much as possible.
Was his full name Kirk? I have a sworn enemy there by that name. Sounds like something my guy would do.
#4
Join Date: Oct 2007
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I think life is way too short to be developing a "sworn enemy" at an airport.
To the OP, you did something that people who work in retail and customer service dislike. Don't make them reach. I've worked in retail. It's an annoyance. Instead, hand them the documents or the payment or whatever objects are part of the transaction. Now, granted, I didn't get to call out the customer on it, and that agent shouldn't have done so either. I just accepted that they did what they did. But courtesy works both ways. As apeortdz said, I hope your day improved when you got to Hawaii.
To the OP, you did something that people who work in retail and customer service dislike. Don't make them reach. I've worked in retail. It's an annoyance. Instead, hand them the documents or the payment or whatever objects are part of the transaction. Now, granted, I didn't get to call out the customer on it, and that agent shouldn't have done so either. I just accepted that they did what they did. But courtesy works both ways. As apeortdz said, I hope your day improved when you got to Hawaii.
#5
Join Date: May 2011
Location: DFW
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The priority check in AAgents at DFW D are most usually very "to the point". Sometimes this can bleed over into rude.
BUT, they are fast, good at what they do (usually) and accommodating, I've found.
BUT, they are fast, good at what they do (usually) and accommodating, I've found.
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#7
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There was a local agent that I, and several people I know, referred to as Mr. Grumpy (my first encounter with him was bad enough that others observing the encounter swore off flying AA). My friends and I took initiative and decided to nice him into a change of attitude. It took a few years, but the last year or so he and I have actually been able to joke back and forth with each other. But I can tell you that until his attitude changed, if I had a choice, I was choosing the other agent every time.
#8
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Problem is that when we report these kinds Ipoh instances, it’s often more indicative of differences than anything else. To wit, in the BAEC forum there’s a currently active thread where a LHR-TLV passenger is complaining that though the flight was okay, he feels slighted that twice he was not proffered his “Gold greeting” he feels is important.
Sometimes, there’s genuine rudeness.
But ipoften enough it’s about personal style and differences. Just as examples,
Tolerance for directness : some are very direct (e.g. most Australians) whereas others (e.g. some Middle Easterners) have little tolerance for directness. Instead of being open, they’ll say what they think the other person wants to hear - whether it’s feasible or not.
Tolerance for conflict: some can withstand conflict and remain “unhooked”, others have less resistance and feel every sling or perceived sling and are easily drawn into conflict.
Some still like to “dress up” for flying, and may have animus against those in shorts or sweats, particularly in First class.
Some prefer formality - “Welcome aboard, Mr. Ginslinger” and “professional” treatment, more to be found on zcathay Pacific as example, others are “Call me Bob!” and engaging in informal chit chat and jocularity.
And on.
For me, I usually have bigger fish to fry. I prefer to mostly just accept others as they are and maintain sight of my objective - get checked in, baggage tagged to my destination, correct boarding passes, etc. I don’t have too much time or energy to invest in what I might see as nit-picking.
I do enjoy and being aware of personal differences, and I may use my communication partner’s style to mirror a bit (the Platinum rule is “treat others as they would be treated”) to achieve my goal - that seat change, the earlier flight, etc. I can observe and choose, communicate for effectiveness. In Latin America, Middle East and parts of Africa and Asia that requires more courtesy and formality, in Australia p, New Zealand and parts of the USA that may call for a more informal approach, even with a shared joke.
Sometimes, there’s genuine rudeness.
But ipoften enough it’s about personal style and differences. Just as examples,
Tolerance for directness : some are very direct (e.g. most Australians) whereas others (e.g. some Middle Easterners) have little tolerance for directness. Instead of being open, they’ll say what they think the other person wants to hear - whether it’s feasible or not.
Tolerance for conflict: some can withstand conflict and remain “unhooked”, others have less resistance and feel every sling or perceived sling and are easily drawn into conflict.
Some still like to “dress up” for flying, and may have animus against those in shorts or sweats, particularly in First class.
Some prefer formality - “Welcome aboard, Mr. Ginslinger” and “professional” treatment, more to be found on zcathay Pacific as example, others are “Call me Bob!” and engaging in informal chit chat and jocularity.
And on.
For me, I usually have bigger fish to fry. I prefer to mostly just accept others as they are and maintain sight of my objective - get checked in, baggage tagged to my destination, correct boarding passes, etc. I don’t have too much time or energy to invest in what I might see as nit-picking.
I do enjoy and being aware of personal differences, and I may use my communication partner’s style to mirror a bit (the Platinum rule is “treat others as they would be treated”) to achieve my goal - that seat change, the earlier flight, etc. I can observe and choose, communicate for effectiveness. In Latin America, Middle East and parts of Africa and Asia that requires more courtesy and formality, in Australia p, New Zealand and parts of the USA that may call for a more informal approach, even with a shared joke.
#9
Join Date: Sep 2008
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I think life is way too short to be developing a "sworn enemy" at an airport.
To the OP, you did something that people who work in retail and customer service dislike. Don't make them reach. I've worked in retail. It's an annoyance. Instead, hand them the documents or the payment or whatever objects are part of the transaction. Now, granted, I didn't get to call out the customer on it, and that agent shouldn't have done so either. I just accepted that they did what they did. But courtesy works both ways. As apeortdz said, I hope your day improved when you got to Hawaii.
To the OP, you did something that people who work in retail and customer service dislike. Don't make them reach. I've worked in retail. It's an annoyance. Instead, hand them the documents or the payment or whatever objects are part of the transaction. Now, granted, I didn't get to call out the customer on it, and that agent shouldn't have done so either. I just accepted that they did what they did. But courtesy works both ways. As apeortdz said, I hope your day improved when you got to Hawaii.
#10
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I think life is way too short to be developing a "sworn enemy" at an airport.
To the OP, you did something that people who work in retail and customer service dislike. Don't make them reach. I've worked in retail. It's an annoyance. Instead, hand them the documents or the payment or whatever objects are part of the transaction. Now, granted, I didn't get to call out the customer on it, and that agent shouldn't have done so either. I just accepted that they did what they did. But courtesy works both ways. As apeortdz said, I hope your day improved when you got to Hawaii.
To the OP, you did something that people who work in retail and customer service dislike. Don't make them reach. I've worked in retail. It's an annoyance. Instead, hand them the documents or the payment or whatever objects are part of the transaction. Now, granted, I didn't get to call out the customer on it, and that agent shouldn't have done so either. I just accepted that they did what they did. But courtesy works both ways. As apeortdz said, I hope your day improved when you got to Hawaii.
#11
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Give me a break. They are customer service agents - their job is to provide service to us. It is not my job to provide my license to the person in his/her preferred method; short of throwing it in his face, of course, just about anything should be acceptable- placing it on the counter, handing it to him in the palm of my hand, placing it between two fingers and holding it over the counter for him to grab.
#12
Join Date: Jan 2003
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I appreciate the perspective from the other side. I always thought it was more polite for me to leave ID on the counter when asked because if the cashier / agent / customer service rep is engaged in another activity I didn't want to be perceived as rude by pushing something toward their person / "in their face".
#13
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I think life is way too short to be developing a "sworn enemy" at an airport.
To the OP, you did something that people who work in retail and customer service dislike. Don't make them reach. I've worked in retail. It's an annoyance. Instead, hand them the documents or the payment or whatever objects are part of the transaction. Now, granted, I didn't get to call out the customer on it, and that agent shouldn't have done so either. I just accepted that they did what they did. But courtesy works both ways. As apeortdz said, I hope your day improved when you got to Hawaii.
To the OP, you did something that people who work in retail and customer service dislike. Don't make them reach. I've worked in retail. It's an annoyance. Instead, hand them the documents or the payment or whatever objects are part of the transaction. Now, granted, I didn't get to call out the customer on it, and that agent shouldn't have done so either. I just accepted that they did what they did. But courtesy works both ways. As apeortdz said, I hope your day improved when you got to Hawaii.
In LAS VEGAS or AC they are not so fussy.
#14
Join Date: Oct 2010
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It is too common, it's almost like they enjoy it. You must complain and take your $ elsewhere if things don't improve. They have cut costs to a level where they hire people with no skills. Perhaps AI will replace them.