FA Charging For Liquor/Drinks in MCE
#346
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As for people in line for a FA job, that is quite true. In 2016 it's reported that Delta had 150,000 applicants for about FA 1000 positions. People see a flight attendant job posting and think it's the glamour of the 1960's until they find that they are flying 8 short hops per day to small cities like Albany and Allentown instead of long haul routes to London and Paris until they build up 10-15 years seniority.
#347
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I flew LAX-JFK in late July and sat MCE 12D. The girl across the aisle ordered a glass of wine and the FA charged her. When the FA turned to me, I mentioned that MCE was supposed to get complimentary cocktails and she said, "No, only Exec Platinum."
I recommend having a screenshot of the email on your phone to show FAs (without needing WiFi to pull up the email itself).
I recommend having a screenshot of the email on your phone to show FAs (without needing WiFi to pull up the email itself).
This is ridiculous - it's an advertised benefit, no customer should ever have to argue with them over this or come armored into MCE with a screen shot.
#348
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#349
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Just to clarify, I was merely suggesting a way to avoid a tussle on the flight, not suggesting that American shouldn't make sure all FA's follow the rules.
#350
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I flew LAX-JFK in late July and sat MCE 12D. The girl across the aisle ordered a glass of wine and the FA charged her. When the FA turned to me, I mentioned that MCE was supposed to get complimentary cocktails and she said, "No, only Exec Platinum."
I actually pulled up the June 5 email I had received about "complimentary drinks in MCE" and showed it to her. She looked shocked. She said, "I didn't even know about this." She went away, talked to the head FA, came back and said, "You are absolutely right. I'm so sorry." and then had to refund the woman across the aisle (who thanked me). I was, however, in the row just behind bulkhead so don't know whether those folks got a refund.
I recommend having a screenshot of the email on your phone to show FAs (without needing WiFi to pull up the email itself).
I actually pulled up the June 5 email I had received about "complimentary drinks in MCE" and showed it to her. She looked shocked. She said, "I didn't even know about this." She went away, talked to the head FA, came back and said, "You are absolutely right. I'm so sorry." and then had to refund the woman across the aisle (who thanked me). I was, however, in the row just behind bulkhead so don't know whether those folks got a refund.
I recommend having a screenshot of the email on your phone to show FAs (without needing WiFi to pull up the email itself).
Last edited by rumboj; Aug 29, 2018 at 11:05 pm
#351
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Oh trust me I have had to have that email ready at least three times, wether for the free drink or because they thought it was just beer/wine (I like my bloodies sorry not sorry). I should just start paying for it, and then file a complaint for a refund so maybe they can start to get the message and track down the folks that haven't been trained.
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#353
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So what do FT's think the overall problem is? I can't imagine it to be a lack of notice/memo. Did they just forget or not pay attention? Do they not want to perform the extra service? I am just trying to figure out the underlying issue here. For any company I have ever worked for when there is a company wide directive you just don't forget about it, weren't trained on it, or had someone remind you...
#354
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So what do FT's think the overall problem is? I can't imagine it to be a lack of notice/memo. Did they just forget or not pay attention? Do they not want to perform the extra service? I am just trying to figure out the underlying issue here. For any company I have ever worked for when there is a company wide directive you just don't forget about it, weren't trained on it, or had someone remind you...
#355
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The crazy thing is that I would actually think the FAs would PREFER it, since having to grab a credit card and run it thru takes extra time. I've had tons of FAs over the years not charge me for drinks, anyway, even when I wasn't EXP. But, it is a great question. I'm sure Corp sent out more than one email about it.i
EDIT: To add, sometimes only one FA has the card reader/scanner so they don't want to have to go and get it from the other FA to make the purchase or scan (Don't blame them one bit).
Last edited by AeRoSpaceman; Aug 29, 2018 at 9:59 pm Reason: EDIT to add
#356
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So what do FT's think the overall problem is? I can't imagine it to be a lack of notice/memo. Did they just forget or not pay attention? Do they not want to perform the extra service? I am just trying to figure out the underlying issue here. For any company I have ever worked for when there is a company wide directive you just don't forget about it, weren't trained on it, or had someone remind you...
#357
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My sense is that its a combination of not caring or some believing Y paxs (even those seated in MCE) shouldn't be entitled to free drinks. Training, really. The "training" consists of a pax sitting in a Y seat with the blue markings of MCE is entitled to free alcoholic beverages. How could that be possibly hard to understand? My sense is that its probably LAA FAs that "aren't going the memo" as they seem to be the ones that either ignore company policy (like PDBs in F) or adapt to their own beliefs (like serving only warm water or OJ for PDBs.)
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