Hidden city ticket users busted! (detected at gate - no action taken)
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But calling up at BBB to say "hey, can you cancel my CCC" = nbd.
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I posted the theoretical, not the practical. I agree it is hardly ever done, though a provision is in almost all airlines' CoC. Perhaps I should have used the word 'could' instead.
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May happen to you one day!
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Ditto. It's a bit disturbing that a gate agent would look up my home address (knowing that I'm away from home on a trip). It's even more disturbing that this info would be broadcast to people in an airport. Which is exactly precisely why my mailing address is _never_ anywhere near where I actually live (for over 25 years now).
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(1) In #1 , it was noted they had "no bags", flying without checked bags is not that odd.
(2) I'm flying from A to B to C [my final destination]; A to B was cancelled, so they route me A to D to C--but the routing I flew is cheaper than my original routing does AA give me a refund for the difference in price? If AA wants to reprice for hidden city violations they should credit in my scenario.
(2) I'm flying from A to B to C [my final destination]; A to B was cancelled, so they route me A to D to C--but the routing I flew is cheaper than my original routing does AA give me a refund for the difference in price? If AA wants to reprice for hidden city violations they should credit in my scenario.
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(2) I'm flying from A to B to C [my final destination]; A to B was cancelled, so they route me A to D to C--but the routing I flew is cheaper than my original routing does AA give me a refund for the difference in price? If AA wants to reprice for hidden city violations they should credit in my scenario.
Your example is also mildly illogical since, if going via D was indeed cheaper at historical prices, you would probably have chosen that in the first instance.
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Ditto. It's a bit disturbing that a gate agent would look up my home address (knowing that I'm away from home on a trip). It's even more disturbing that this info would be broadcast to people in an airport. Which is exactly precisely why my mailing address is _never_ anywhere near where I actually live (for over 25 years now).
#24
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No, you should not get any fare difference. That's exactly the point. You bought transportation from A to C. How AA gets you there is really not up to you. It could be via B or D or Q. But that is not what we are talking about, which is dropping a leg for the purposes of avoiding the higher fare.
Your example is also mildly illogical since, if going via D was indeed cheaper at historical prices, you would probably have chosen that in the first instance.
Your example is also mildly illogical since, if going via D was indeed cheaper at historical prices, you would probably have chosen that in the first instance.
As others have noted, it is unlikely that AA will send the pax a bill...for NOT flying.
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Having a P.O. Box (or UPS Store, etc.) address is a standard precaution for folks who travel a lot. The temptation for folks to drop by and visit while you're out of town is simply too large. Having an opaque address is cheap insurance against such events.
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No, you should not get any fare difference. That's exactly the point. You bought transportation from A to C. How AA gets you there is really not up to you. It could be via B or D or Q. But that is not what we are talking about, which is dropping a leg for the purposes of avoiding the higher fare.
Your example is also mildly illogical since, if going via D was indeed cheaper at historical prices, you would probably have chosen that in the first instance.
Your example is also mildly illogical since, if going via D was indeed cheaper at historical prices, you would probably have chosen that in the first instance.
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Agent had to look at the whole address in order to deduce that they live "in Chicago". It should be on a "need to know" basis. Why does a gate agent need to know anyone's home address?
Having a P.O. Box (or UPS Store, etc.) address is a standard precaution for folks who travel a lot. The temptation for folks to drop by and visit while you're out of town is simply too large. Having an opaque address is cheap insurance against such events.
Having a P.O. Box (or UPS Store, etc.) address is a standard precaution for folks who travel a lot. The temptation for folks to drop by and visit while you're out of town is simply too large. Having an opaque address is cheap insurance against such events.
Last edited by DenverBrian; Apr 17, 2018 at 1:49 pm
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I say ^^ to the gate agent in this instance for being proactive in trying to figure if they should wait a bit longer for connecting pax or close the flight up.
I missed a QR flight last year (long story), the gate agent in Doha actually called my emergency contact number in the reservation back in the US (4am local time there) trying to hunt me down. That was a first!
I missed a QR flight last year (long story), the gate agent in Doha actually called my emergency contact number in the reservation back in the US (4am local time there) trying to hunt me down. That was a first!
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What's the next logical event in the series?
"Agent looked up my bank account, figured out that I didn't have the money for taxi fare to get to the airport, then closed the boarding door."
"Agent checked my blood type and online dating profile, figured out that I met some hottie in the airport, then closed the boarding door."
"Agent checked my facebook page, realized that I had just broken up with my S.O., and closed the boarding door to spare me the agony of going home to a ruined relationship."
"Agent needed to get the flight out, so agent used my credit card on file and booked me on the next available flight.".
Sometimes I wish people would just do their job, period.
"Agent looked up my bank account, figured out that I didn't have the money for taxi fare to get to the airport, then closed the boarding door."
"Agent checked my blood type and online dating profile, figured out that I met some hottie in the airport, then closed the boarding door."
"Agent checked my facebook page, realized that I had just broken up with my S.O., and closed the boarding door to spare me the agony of going home to a ruined relationship."
"Agent needed to get the flight out, so agent used my credit card on file and booked me on the next available flight.".
Sometimes I wish people would just do their job, period.